IRC Logs for #crux Thursday, 2015-03-05

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leo-unglaubgood evening01:41
greduanhey01:41
cruxbot[xfce.git/3.1]: xfce4-diskperf-plugin: Update to 2.5.501:46
cruxbot[xfce.git/3.1]: xfce4-fsguard-plugin: Update to 1.0.201:51
cruxbot[xfce.git/3.1]: xfce4-wavelan-plugin: Update to 0.5.1201:55
cruxbot[xfce.git/3.1]: xfce4-mpc-plugin: Update to 0.4.501:58
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leo-unglaubRomster, ping02:07
teK_nice working hours, leo02:08
leo-unglaubteK_, hehe, you to *g*02:08
teK_getting to bed NAO02:08
prologicleo-unglaub: xfce4 4.12 ports ready yet?02:08
leo-unglaubprologic, yeah02:08
leo-unglaubteK_, have a good night sleep02:09
teK_thx02:09
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leo-unglaub:)02:31
greduanwouldn't it be o~~o or o--o ?02:37
greduancause o/\o is a highfive02:37
diversedoesn't matter02:38
greduanIT MATTERS TO ME!02:39
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cruxbot[xfce.git/3.1]: mousepad: Adding a post-install script02:47
cruxbot[xfce.git/3.1]: mousepad: Update to 0.4.002:48
Romsterleo-unglaub, pong03:03
leo-unglaubRomster, great :)03:04
leo-unglaubi just wrote two tickets for you03:04
leo-unglaubbut other than that03:05
leo-unglaubi commited mousepad03:05
leo-unglaubworks nice!03:05
leo-unglaubthanks03:05
leo-unglaubi am going to sleep now, i have to be in the office in 3 hours :(03:05
Romsterk i just woke up i'll look at them shortly03:07
leo-unglaubhehe, i love this timezone difference *g*03:08
leo-unglaubsay hi to hugh jackman if you see him :)03:08
leo-unglaubsee ya later :)03:08
Romsterlater03:08
Romsterseriously i sent all that time on vala and glade... -_-03:10
leo-unglaubRomster, ?03:10
leo-unglaubas far as i understand it (bare in mind h ave not slept for 26 hours) gtksourceview needs libglade and not glade itself03:11
Romsteri had t go through all the deps to get this working and i modeled it after arch dependencies03:11
leo-unglaubglade itself is "just the interface designer"03:11
Romsterbut i can try to cut it back03:11
Romster26 hous geez man...03:12
Romsterhours*03:12
leo-unglaubi can have another look, but then i need a new coffee03:12
Romsterive been like sleeping 2 hours here 4 there.. still feel like crap03:12
Romsteryou need sleep03:12
leo-unglaubyeah, you are right ... lets talk about this tomorrow03:13
Romsteri'll see what configure options i can mess with03:13
leo-unglaubor later03:13
leo-unglaub:)03:13
leo-unglaubsee ya03:13
Romsterlater03:13
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lmarieNo hurry, so I thought I'd post this late while it is quiet in irc.  In the past week I re-installed crux as I changed my partition layout to make it neat.  Originally I had crux installed on three partitions /, home, and var formatted as ext4 primary. New layout on extended hd with several logical partitions.03:42
lmarieSo now crux is installed on / and home as logical with as ext4 file system.03:44
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Romsterlmarie, lvm2?03:45
lmarieI'm getting the following error in between nouveau drm messages at boot: file-based locking initilization failed03:45
Romsterusing lvm2 here makes it so easy to manage.03:46
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Romsteri'm using nvidia so i can't help you with that on sorry03:46
lmarieOh, good day Romster!  Late evening here.  I don't use lvm but I probably confiigured it in the kernel config. I'm about to paste my kernel config.  A bit slow on dial up.03:47
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Romsterwell when i hear logical... sounds tome lvm03:47
Romsteras partitioning a disk is primary or extended /partitions/ not /logical volumes/.03:48
lmarieYeah, I obviously don't understand about logical partitioning.  I always thought lvm was er...virtual logical ...I know sounds stupid.03:49
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Romsterit si virutal extent based with device-mapper in kernel03:49
Romsteryour either on GPT or DOS label partitioning then. don't use logical in this sense as it's confusing.03:50
lmarieOkay.  Yeah, I have those implemented in the kernel.  I have DOS label, when I used ultimate boot cd, using parted to set up the zillions of logical partitions.03:51
Romsterthe only thing logical of the disk it self is "LBA Logical Block Addressing" thant eh older CHM cylinder head forgot what M stood for, wheres platters?03:51
Romsterso not logical at all.03:51
Romsteras for the other error did you install core/start-stop-daemon ?03:52
lmarieThis might help posting the config:  http://pastebin.com/VC6hPN0s  ...Yeah, I read about that on the gmane mailing list.  Checking for it now.03:52
Romsternot sure if tat will solve it but that is a new dependency now.03:52
Romsterthat*03:54
Romsterhave you looked in dmesg and Xorg.log03:54
Romsterbut you said at boot so more a module loading issue maybe03:55
Romsteryou did do make modules-install03:55
Romsteri've sometimes forgot that.03:55
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lmarieGot yanked.  I'll let you know if the start-stop-daemon utility makes a difference.  The error seems to cause no problem.04:01
lmarieLooking forward to slipping on one-inch of sleet an a layer of snow on top of that.04:02
lmariean>and04:02
lmarieGood night and.. good day, folks!04:03
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Romstereh only found this so far http://negativo17.org/complex-setup-with-nvidia-optimus-nouveau-prime-on-fedora-19-2/04:04
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: gtksourceview: fixes bugs FS#1149 and FS#1150, glade a vala are now optional, gtk3 is required04:31
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nweany idea why this row doesnt work in pekwm...         Entry = "Terminal" { Actions = "Exec xterm -fn -*-nimbus mono l-* -fg white -bg black -u8 &" }06:21
tilmanyeah06:22
nwenothing happen when I trying to launch it from the menu.. but if I running it from an already open terminal it work (the xterm command)06:22
Romsteryou mean in ~/.pekwm/menu06:22
nweyeah06:22
tilmanhow do you think that string is parsed?06:22
tilmani see one quoting issues06:22
tilmanhint: the font name ;)06:22
tilman(contains spaces and thus would be parsed as two separate arguments)06:23
Romster-*-nimbus mono l-*06:23
Romsterwhat does that do06:23
Romsterand it's not quoted so wildcard * will expand06:23
tilmanbullshit06:23
Romsterwell that was what i thought no need to curse06:24
tilmansry06:24
Romsterfind -name foo* and find -name 'foo*"06:24
Romstershit is different.06:24
tilmannwe: as a general workaround, you could specify the fond in ~/.Xdefaults and remove the -fn foo thing from pekwm06:24
Romstershell expansion.06:25
tilmanRomster: imo it's unlikely that pekwm spawns a shell to run that command06:25
nwetilman: okey, then I will do it that way instead06:26
Romsterok06:26
tilmantho he put the ampersand there, so maybe it does06:26
nwewhich fonts are you guys using in xterm?06:27
Romsterthat is deliberate to daemonize it06:27
tilmanxft:Terminus:size=1206:27
Romsterall menu entries on pekwm need that at the end06:27
tilmanxft:Smooth:pixelsize=10 is nice too if your eyes can handle it :d06:27
nwetilman: in your ./Xdefaults?06:28
tilmanwell, that's the syntax that urxvt accepts06:28
Romsterhow does that work any ENV name that xterm uses for settings?06:28
tilmani'm not using xterm06:28
Romsteri'm happy with sakura06:29
tilmanRomster: now, these are x resources. ~/.Xdefaults06:29
Romsterlooking in xterms man page06:29
tilmanno*06:29
Romsteri got an idea nwe set an alias for that xterm and the call that in pekwm/menu06:29
Romsters/the/then06:30
Romsterhttps://engineering.purdue.edu/ECN/Support/KB/Docs/UsingTheXdefaultsFil06:31
Romsterah ok has xterm example in there nwe06:31
nwetilman: do you just put URxvt.font: xft:Terminus:size=12 in your .Xdefaults and thats is..06:32
Romsterthen i guess you can do Entry = "xterm" { Actions = "Exec $TERM &" }06:32
Romsternwe, see the url ^06:32
nweRomster: I using this one now... Exec xterm -fn -misc-fixed-*-*-*-*-18-*-*-*-*-*-*-* -fg white -bg black -u8 & and this working06:33
tilmannwe: http://918ba216906aa7e0.paste.se/06:33
tilmannwe: lines starting with ! are comments06:33
Romsterunusual comment identifier06:34
RomsterTo reread your .Xresources file, and throw away your old resources, you can type:06:35
Romster xrdb ~/.Xdefaults06:35
Romsterah that's where i set my cursor theme06:36
RomsterXcursor.theme:obsidian06:36
Romsterhttp://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Obsidian+Cursors?content=7313506:37
nwehmm does urxvt has a short-command for fullscreen like xterm alt+enter?06:43
Romsterman xterm06:43
Romstershould be listed06:43
tilmanman bash06:44
nwe=)06:44
tilmannwe: not that i know of. how about your WM's shortcut?06:44
Romstersome apps use F11 i know firefox does06:44
Romstersakura uses F11 too06:44
SitriDuumThat seems more like something the WM should offer.06:44
Romsterand hexcat does F1106:45
Romsterit might be a pekwm feature06:45
tilmanSitriDuum: definitely. really weird that they put it into xterm o_O06:45
nweI will take a look in the manuals :)06:45
Romstergvim fails on F11 it might rebind the key.06:45
Romsterhonestly i'm just gonna stop helping people and let tilman help.06:48
Romsteri'm clearly stupid!06:48
tilmani didn't even say anything this time06:48
Romster'bullshit' then you even say 'sry', sry isn't even a word. and i clearly am wrong on glob expansions in the case for pekwm menu as it's not sent to shell.06:49
tilmanhaha06:50
RomsterI am not a programmer I don't know as much.06:51
RomsterAnd this is meant to be a friendly distribution? For experienced users.06:53
RomsterAnd everyone expects me to type correctly.06:53
nwehmm http://www.sysstat.se/~niklas/pekwm.png left one: urxvt right: my xterm I cant choose who of them I should use..06:54
RomsterPersonal preferences, and everyone has there own opinion.06:55
nwethat?s true :)06:56
Romsterfont on the right one looks a bit too bold for my tastes06:56
Romsterlook at a and e see how close they resemble. etc.06:57
Romsterlike character spacing is squished.06:57
Romsterall I can say06:58
nweyeah the letters smelt in eachother..06:58
RomsterI like monotype fonts like xorg-font-inconsolata-dz06:59
nweurxvt at the screenshot using bitstream vera sans mono07:00
nwebrb for a whie...07:00
Romsterok07:00
nweback07:12
Romsterwelcome back07:24
nwethanks07:24
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prologicleetspete1, sweet I'll upgrade then :)09:09
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frinnsthm, chromium seems to build with our gcc?09:36
frinnstso far so good: [1762/16550]09:36
Romsterthought it was hard coded with clang or your trying with gcc frinnst ?09:44
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: elinks: update to version 0.13-git as of 2015052510:08
frinnstGYP_DEFINES=clang=0 build/gyp_chromium build/all.gyp ....10:09
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: fcron: new rc script10:10
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: masqmail: new rc script10:10
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rexichhello everyone :)11:23
rexichto whomever is maintaining the port of libreoffice, 4.4.1 is the newest version, a simple change in the version string is enough to compile it (and of course, new footprint and MD5 files)11:24
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leo-unglaubhey :)12:16
diversehey12:16
leo-unglaubdoes any of you know why i cannot mount a vfat (fat32) partition on crux linux?12:18
Romsterhe leo-unglaub i got some logs for xfce issues12:21
Romsters/he/hey/12:23
leo-unglaubvery nice ... give it to me hard :)12:23
leo-unglaubcall me an idiot *g*12:23
leo-unglaubthen i work much better *g*12:23
Romsterhttps://gist.github.com/therealromster/d65952eabe370063a74812:25
Romsterwhat i got so far.12:25
Romsteruh can ignore hal not one of yourports need to look into that. is hal even necessary?12:27
Romsterxfce4-appfinder#4.12.0 is a weird case it wants libxfce4ui-2 >= 4.10.012:27
Romsterbut libxfce4ui is 4.12.012:28
Romsterthen parole#0.8.0 wants libxfce4ui-2 >= 4.11.012:28
nweleo-unglaub: where do you have your xfce repo?12:28
Romsterit's on crux.nu nwe12:29
Romsterin with sepen.12:29
Romsteras a group12:29
leo-unglaubRomster, big thanks, appfinder is my bad ... parole is still untouched12:29
Romsterxfce4-cddrive-plugin i know it's a plugin but looks like it jsut needs a later exo version.12:29
leo-unglaubi have not gotten to that gstreamer monster yet12:29
Romsteryeah notice indentation issues on appfinder12:30
Romsterafter i added gtk to appfinder then i think i got prt-get depinst xfce4 to work fine.12:30
Romsterxfce4-cellmodem-plugin uses core/libusb-compat but then undefined reference to `xfce_create_header'12:31
Romsterdunno if that plugin module is really necessary i'll leave that to you.12:31
Romsterxfce4-datetime-plugin md5sum issue it might be my mirror copy didn't look into that.12:32
Romsterprt-get depinst * --ignore=xfce4-artwork,xfce4-appfinder,notification-daemon-xfce,parole,xfce4-cddrive-plugin,xfce4-cellmodem-plugin,xfce4-corner-plugin,xfce4-datetime-plugin,xfce4-linelight-plugin,xfce4-macmenu-plugin,xfce4-modemlights-plugin,xfce4-notes-plugin12:32
Romsterso far i'm at that.12:32
leo-unglaubvery nice12:35
leo-unglaubthanks12:35
leo-unglaubi am currently in the office and for the next few hours i have to pretend to do some actuall work *g*12:35
Romsteri know it's not done yet but this should help weed some of the kinks out.12:35
leo-unglaubso i look at it tonight12:35
Romstergot the irc log you can go over.12:35
Romsteronline12:35
Romsterhehe12:36
Romsterwel as far as gstreamer is concerned and gstreamer-compat i haven't found any issues jsut be sore to pick the right one version as ABI changes between the two.12:37
Romsterah finally to the end of the list.12:41
Romsterleo-unglaub, these are the broken packages: xfce4-artwork,xfce4-appfinder,notification-daemon-xfce,parole,xfce4-cddrive-plugin,xfce4-cellmodem-plugin,xfce4-corner-plugin,xfce4-datetime-plugin,xfce4-linelight-plugin,xfce4-macmenu-plugin,xfce4-modemlights-plugin,xfce4-notes-plugin,xfce4-radio-plugin,xfce4-volstatus-icon,xfce4-wmdock-plugin,xfce4-xmms-plugin,xfprint,xfce4-equake-plugin12:41
Romsterother than the footprint mismatch on libxfce4ui and missing gtk dependency on garcon12:42
leo-unglaubwell, this is not so bad12:54
leo-unglaubit seams much. but it should be easy to fix12:54
leo-unglaubcurrently the weather pugin is fucking me hard12:54
leo-unglaubbecause it uses plain http connections12:54
leo-unglauband i am really allergic to that12:54
Romstermostly trivial.12:55
Romsterhmm12:55
Romstervoice your opinion on the xfce4 dev ML?12:55
leo-unglaubRomster, i am patching it myself and sending it upstream12:56
Romstercool12:56
Romsteryour going beyond the call of duty12:56
leo-unglaubthats why god took my girlfriend from me ... so i would have time to do bullshit like that12:56
Romsterbear in mind we don't like to patch crux ports too much for features but definitely for security related crap.12:56
Romsterhehe12:57
Romsterthere is more out there.12:57
leo-unglaubyeah, would never patch a feature into a port ... i always send them upstream12:57
Romstercool12:58
leo-unglaubi am even against patching security things in ports ... because if you get it into upstream every one benefits12:58
leo-unglaubpatching ports is only the last resort12:58
Romsterit's a temporally fix until it is applied upstream12:59
Romsterglibc for one when is there dot release12:59
Romsterstack of CVE patches12:59
leo-unglaubyeah, but normally a package developer should be able to release a patched version within 24 hours13:00
leo-unglaubif not he propobly failed and sould be replaced13:00
Romstertrue13:04
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greduanmorning :)13:37
Romsterhi greduan13:38
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: [notify] nfs-utils: improved rc scripts13:56
rmullmorning all.13:56
greduanmorning rmull13:56
rmullelinks fails to build: hooks.c:(.text+0x7b320): undefined reference to `lua_strlen'14:08
rmullpossibly related: https://github.com/Bertram25/ValyriaTear/issues/8014:10
jueyou've lua installed?14:10
rmullyep14:10
rmull5.2.314:10
rmullI'll do some investigating, one sec14:11
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Romsteropt/lua as well?14:11
Romsteras there is lua5214:11
rmullIs there a different lua? opt/lua is what I have14:11
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Romsterno sorry thats lua5114:12
rmullI have opt/lua, do not have opt/lua5114:12
Romsteryeah lua51 and lua14:12
Romsterit might need that14:12
rmullI will try14:12
juermull: please add --without-lua and try again14:12
rmullk14:12
RomsterABI changes14:12
Romsterdon't think anyone needs the lua bindings?14:13
rmullhaha, not me... trying with the exclusion14:13
rmullworks fine --without-lua14:14
rmullhave not tried adding lua51 dep. Should I?14:14
Romsterupto you if you have anything that uses it.14:14
rmullnope14:14
rmullThanks jue, Romster14:14
juermull: thanks for testing, will add14:14
rmullAppreciated14:15
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: elinks: explicit disable lua support14:16
rmullteK_: Is there something I should be doing to make the postgresql rc script work properly?14:16
rmullAlso, is it possible that it is getting executed before the network link has a chance to come up, and fails as a result?14:16
rmullI always have to re-run the rc script once I log in14:16
Romsterput the script at the end of SERVICES=14:18
Romsterand net at the start14:18
rmullNet is at the start (after lo) - I'll try to move postgresql further back14:18
juermull: with dhcpcd? if so adding --waitip might help14:18
rmullNo, static14:18
jueok14:18
rmullRomster: Actually I can't move it back, because there are other things that depend on it behind it14:19
Romsterah14:19
Romsteris it using start-stop-daemon ?14:19
Romsterdoes that have a wait for dependent service option?14:20
Romsterbut you're only assuming its a slow net coming up check the logs?14:20
rmullyeah, during boot, I see the link-up message coming after I get my log in prompt, and the postgresql script said it failed earlier14:24
rmullI haven't yet tested to see if the postgres script will fail when I take down networking manually, but I can't test that now beacuse I'm remote14:24
rmullIt is not using start-stop-daemon14:24
rmullmight be a good candidate for conversion though14:24
rmullI could also try adding a delay to the boot at some point to let the link come up before proceeding14:25
rmullso I'm not out of options14:25
rmullAnd I don't reboot that often so it's not a huge bother :P14:25
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Romsterright15:01
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museurIs there anyway to install tlp power management tool? Its git doesnt even have a make file and no ports. Is there any alternatives for laptop power mang, something that suspends usb and other things?17:57
jawboyou could make your own port museur18:02
jawboit looks like the github repo doesn't have a makefile because it doesn't need one18:02
rmullThis? https://github.com/linrunner/TLP18:02
jawboit's sh18:02
museurYeah18:02
museurIs it so?18:02
jawboit is so18:03
rmullThere is a Makefile at that github link18:03
museurThx18:03
jawbomake it so18:04
jawbohuh, so there is18:04
jawboi was just looking at the main script18:05
jawbojaeger: were you the one who posted the image of leia and the quote "Roll your packages back, it's your only hope"?18:06
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tilmanhttp://sfconservancy.org/news/2015/mar/05/vmware-lawsuit/18:24
tilman:o18:24
greduansigh18:28
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jawbocrazy18:43
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leo-unglaubgood evening19:27
jawboevening!19:27
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nwegood evening19:44
greduangood evening leo19:55
greduandammit19:56
greduanhey nwe19:56
nwehow are you greduan ?19:57
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greduanI'm good :)19:58
nwenice to hear :)19:58
greduanIndeed19:59
greduanand you?19:59
nweIm fine thanks :)20:00
greduangood to hear :)20:01
nweIm just sitting and watching tv :)20:01
greduancool :)20:02
nweare you doing something fun?..20:02
greduanif Emacs is fun, yes20:03
nwelol :p20:04
nwefrinnst: new version of rxvt-unicode latest version is 9.21..20:07
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frinnsthm, strange I missed that20:30
frinnstthanks20:31
frinnst- add -dockapp option to make the wm treat urxvt as a dockapp.20:31
frinnstinteresting20:31
frinnstupgrade to GPLv3 (see COPYING).20:33
frinnstwee20:33
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: rxvt-unicode: updated to 9.2120:34
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: harfbuzz: updated to 0.9.3920:38
nwefrinnst: why doesnt we have --enable-unicode3 enabled on rxvt-unicode?20:38
greduanyes why doesn't we20:39
frinnstyeah, why the fuck not?20:41
frinnstI suppose rxvt-unicode needs some love. I dont think i've changed more than one or two things since i took it over some years ago20:41
frinnstnwe: any specific usecase for that btw?20:44
nwefrinnst: I tried a bash-prompt and font that needed it20:44
frinnstah20:44
frinnstill have a look this weekend20:48
nwegood :)20:49
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museurBesides gcc and j7 , is it possible to have a general option to have everything use a couple of threads? Im compiling kernel and it is one cpu almost always. Im using flash and is one cpu again almost always.21:24
museurEtc.21:24
frinnstwhen bulding a kernel you need to use "make -jX"21:28
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haltecthello fellows21:38
museurHi21:43
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greduanhello21:45
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rmullmuseur: I usually source /etc/pkgmk.conf before building my kernel - it doesn't look at it automatically22:09
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museurHow to find syntax error on files? My zhs gives parse error but too many files to randomly check22:30
museurI also get a maintenance shell option for no reason right after keyboard conf and run level 2. , services. Rc file is fine.22:32
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greduanzsh you mean?23:07
greduanalso what's the error?23:08
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leo-unglaubgood evening23:47
cruxbot[xfce.git/3.1]: xfce4-places-plugin: Update to 1.7.023:55
cruxbot[xfce.git/3.1]: xfce4-places-plugin: Cleanup the Pkgfile and the dependencies23:57

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