IRC Logs for #crux Thursday, 2015-03-19

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cruxbot[xorg.git/3.1]: mesa3d: updated to version 10.5.1, please note new dependency mako02:13
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cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.1]: mesa3d-32: updated to version 10.5.104:02
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: lcms2: update to 2.712:10
cruxbot[core.git/3.1]: openssh: update to 6.8p112:13
cruxbot[core.git/3.1]: libdevmapper: update to 1.02.9412:13
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: lvm2: update to 2.02.11712:14
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cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.1]: lcms2-32: 2.6 -> 2.712:31
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cruxbot[core.git/3.1]: [notify] openssl: updated to version 1.0.2a14:49
rmullDid they describe the vuln?14:50
jaegerhttps://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20150319.txt14:50
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rmullThanks, I see the email with the same link now :| sorry.14:58
jaegerno worries14:58
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dxlr8rhey people. I am thinking about installing crux on my "old" laptop15:23
dxlr8rI would like something leightweight, gonna be used for programming mostly. and I want it secure15:24
dxlr8rso... do you know a good guide, or project, to encrypt the root disk? and a bootloader or something that can decrypt it? or maybe something else is more secure?15:24
dxlr8rI am not gonna have family photos etc. on it. and will keep backup of the important things, so I don't care if encryption makes it harder to get stuff out15:25
ryuodxlr8r, to pull this off you are going to need an initrd.15:36
ryuodxlr8r, since / will be encrypted?15:36
ryuodxlr8r, and kernel/initrd will have to be stored on /boot unless your bootloader is capable of reading off encrypted file systems.15:38
rmullBetter yet - removable media, so that you can't boot unless you have the flash drive?15:40
dxlr8rhmmm, yeah, thought about passphrase vs flash drive15:44
dxlr8ris there any bootloader that can do this? or is a boot partition best?15:45
dxlr8rdm-crypt and luks? reading about it now... is that any good you think?15:45
dxlr8rI am kinda new to this, but not to linux :)15:45
dxlr8rdon't need raid support etc. just want something KISS that is secure and works :)15:46
frinnstyep, thats what you'll need15:50
frinnstand a separate /boot that's not encrypted15:50
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frinnsthttps://crux.nu/Wiki/Cryptsetup15:51
dxlr8rf. nice15:51
ryuodxlr8r, it appears grub2 is capable of opening encrypted volumes to load the kernel/initrd, at least according to here:15:52
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ryuohttp://www.coreboot.org/GRUB2#LUKS_disks_openning15:52
frinnstnice15:52
ryuopeople hate on grub2, but it really is the swiss army knife of bootloaders.15:53
frinnstyep I use it15:53
frinnstbut i do find it painful to use/configure15:53
ryuothat's why grub-mkconfig was invented. :)15:53
frinnstperhaps since I never touch it once its set up. so I always forget when installing it on another system +1 year down the line :)15:53
dxlr8rhmmm. what would be most reliable, unencrypted boot partition or grub?15:54
frinnstI'd use a separate /boot myself i think15:54
dxlr8rI do like lilo so yeah :P15:54
dxlr8rwill be my first experience with crux with X :P15:55
dxlr8ronly use it on servers15:55
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dxlr8rhmmm, creating an initrd seems to be a problem17:13
dxlr8rteK_ 's package is dead :/17:13
teK_what is dead17:14
teK_-c17:14
dxlr8risn't a initrd very generic :/17:14
dxlr8rhttps://crux.nu/Wiki/Cryptsetup17:14
dxlr8rhttps://serverop.de/~tek/crux-dmcrypt/cryptsetup-initrd.tar.bz217:14
dxlr8rand I got an warning on your cert too :)17:15
teK_of course you did ;)17:17
teK_I signed that one personally :P)17:17
dxlr8rlooks like "guide" is kinda old... /dev/hd??17:17
dxlr8rhehe :P17:17
teK_it is17:17
dxlr8ryeah17:17
teK_what's dead about it?17:17
teK_+ gotta run, will reply later today17:17
dxlr8rthe package won't download17:17
teK_what :P17:17
teK_403?17:17
dxlr8r40417:18
teK_ok17:18
teK_brb.17:18
dxlr8rkk17:18
dxlr8rlooks like you didn't bz it... found it here: https://serverop.de/~tek/crux-dmcrypt/cryptsetup-initrd.tar17:19
dxlr8rhehe, Microsoft IIS... haven't seen that in use since the 90'ties17:20
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jaegerdxlr8r: if you didn't want to have a separate unencrypted /boot you could also boot from an external usb device that unencrypts the full disk, I suppose19:19
jaegerJust don't lose that usb device :D19:22
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dxlr8rteK_: would be kick ass if you updated that howto to the current crux :)20:12
dxlr8rwould really like to have crux on the machine :)20:12
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teK_I can do that but not before sometime in June21:20
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: nss: updated to 3.1821:26
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prologicWho's looking after XFCE?23:40
Workstersepen leo quit23:43
Worksteryou know what would make sense if you joined the xfce group prologic23:44
prologicwhat group?23:45
Worksterxfce4 of course23:45
prologicumm23:46
prologicwhat group?23:46
prologicmailing list, google groups?23:46
prologicirc channel?23:46
WorksterCRUX Xfce Team23:46
prologicand why did leo quit/leave?23:46
Workstermailing list xfce.git access23:47
prologicoh23:47
prologicso the crux xfce team23:47
Worksterspeak to jue tek jaeger sepen... would make sense.23:47
Workstersince you actively use xfce23:47
prologicdon't you?23:47
Worksteri haven't been given access afaik but i've offered to help. in the way of cleaning up deptrees and i'll put xfce on a laptop at home.23:48
Worksterbut it wont be my primary desktop23:48
prologicwhat do you use?23:49
Worksterpekwm tint223:50
prologicic23:50
Worksteri'd be more at keeping an eye on that everything compiles, deptree is correct since it needs some fixing. but now that sepen has got more active he may fix it all up now.23:52

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