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| arian0n | I installed crux today, but have issues setting up GRUB | 19:15 |
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| arian0n | when installing it it gave me a strange warning about "Sector 32" being taken by FlexNet, it was weird but it installed somewhat correctly | 19:16 |
| arian0n | except when I rebooted, I had no boot options at all | 19:16 |
| arian0n | so I installed GRUB+os-prober from my arch partition and it worked | 19:16 |
| arian0n | anyone had issues like this? or should I simply just use LILO? | 19:16 |
| jaeger | you have flexlm installed somewhere? | 19:17 |
| arian0n | I don't remember installing it, or even being aware of its existence | 19:17 |
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| jaeger | flexnet publisher DRM is what you're seeing, I think. you can overwrite the first bit of the drive and reinstall grub (or lilo if you prefer) but whatever software is licensed via flexlm may stop working | 19:18 |
| jaeger | or maybe not, I know very little about flexlm or flexnet publisher, just that it puts something in the way of bootloaders | 19:19 |
| arian0n | that's horrible! I'll see how I can get rid of it | 19:20 |
| jaeger | It's easy to get rid of, you can even use dd to do it, just be careful of your partition table | 19:21 |
| jaeger | If you want to try removing just that sector without breaking the partition, something like this should do it: | 19:22 |
| jaeger | dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 seek=32 | 19:22 |
| jaeger | back up your mbr and partition table first if you're not absolutely sure about it | 19:23 |
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| prologic | jaeger: your country is making me sneeze | 19:42 |
| prologic | :( | 19:42 |
| prologic | my eyes hurt from the air | 19:42 |
| jaeger | your country wants us all dead | 19:42 |
| frinnst | lol yes | 19:42 |
| prologic | lol | 19:42 |
| prologic | my country? | 19:42 |
| frinnst | fucking wildlife man | 19:42 |
| frinnst | lethal | 19:42 |
| jaeger | ok, your continent if you prefer | 19:42 |
| prologic | it was a joke as in haha I’m visiting San Franciso till tomororrow :) | 19:42 |
| jaeger | :P | 19:43 |
| prologic | I’m in Palo Alto | 19:43 |
| prologic | the spring weather is driving mt nuts | 19:43 |
| jaeger | I was in SF about a year and a half ago for VMWorld, interesting place | 19:43 |
| prologic | I’m not normally allergic to anything | 19:43 |
| prologic | haha | 19:43 |
| prologic | what state you in? | 19:43 |
| prologic | not CA then? | 19:43 |
| jaeger | I live in Oklahoma in the midwest | 19:44 |
| prologic | and why’s AU trying to kill you all? :) | 19:44 |
| prologic | ahh :) | 19:44 |
| jaeger | we've been asking that for ages :D | 19:44 |
| prologic | oh come now | 19:44 |
| prologic | the AU isn’t that bad | 19:44 |
| prologic | haha | 19:44 |
| prologic | in places | 19:44 |
| prologic | :) | 19:44 |
| prologic | at least we don’t carry guns :) haha | 19:45 |
| frinnst | http://australianfauna.com/t10dangerous.php/ | 19:45 |
| frinnst | Amazing Animal Fact: The venom of a stonefish can kill a human in two hours. | 19:46 |
| frinnst | YAY AMAZING! | 19:46 |
| frinnst | :D | 19:46 |
| prologic | hahaha | 19:46 |
| prologic | is that all? | 19:46 |
| prologic | geez | 19:46 |
| prologic | you know of that list I’ve only seen 2 | 19:46 |
| prologic | Red Back Spiders and Red Bellly Black Snake | 19:46 |
| frinnst | Amazing Fact: The Irukandji jellyfish is only 2.5 centimetres in diameter, but can cause death to humans within days. | 19:46 |
| frinnst | AMAZING: SMALL BUT DEADLY | 19:46 |
| prologic | you will never come across any of these so-called deadly animals normally | 19:46 |
| prologic | they’re afraid of humans :) | 19:47 |
| frinnst | i sure wont. nothing is dangerous in sweden! | 19:47 |
| frinnst | :) | 19:47 |
| prologic | lol | 19:47 |
| prologic | I’m sure that’s NOT true :) | 19:47 |
| prologic | And Salt Water Crocs are noly found in the Northen Terrioty really | 19:48 |
| frinnst | oh ok maybe the russians :) | 19:48 |
| prologic | you’ll not found a single one on the East Cosat (where most of the country live) | 19:48 |
| prologic | lol | 19:48 |
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| frinnst | threatening to nuke everyone all the time | 19:48 |
| prologic | bah idle threats | 19:49 |
| prologic | they just suffer from small manhood(s) | 19:49 |
| prologic | :) | 19:49 |
| frinnst | anyways, zzz for me | 19:50 |
| prologic | night :) | 19:51 |
| prologic | it’s 12:51pm here | 19:51 |
| prologic | haha | 19:51 |
| prologic | not used to this | 19:51 |
| jsch | will 3.2 have an efi installation section in the handbook? | 19:55 |
| jsch | that would be nice | 19:55 |
| jsch | the wiki article is a bit outdated | 19:55 |
| jaeger | hopefully | 19:55 |
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| jsch | cool | 19:55 |
| prologic | How does an EFI instal differe from any other? | 20:04 |
| jaeger | different bootloaders, different partition table, kernel support and EFI tools needed to set boot options | 20:05 |
| prologic | hmm really? | 20:05 |
| prologic | weird | 20:05 |
| prologic | I swear my NAS uses EFI | 20:05 |
| prologic | but it’s just lilo and normal kernel | 20:06 |
| jaeger | It's not using EFI, then | 20:06 |
| jaeger | It may support EFI but most that do can boot either EFI or legacy modes | 20:06 |
| prologic | ahh ic | 20:20 |
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| prologic | so booting via EFI is a lot more complicated? | 20:20 |
| prologic | What is the point exactly then? I fail to see a major benfit here | 20:20 |
| jaeger | that's a better question for google than for me | 20:21 |
| onodera | http://www.funtoo.org/Funtoo_Linux_Installation#Prepare_Hard_Disk | 20:21 |
| onodera | the funtoo wiki has some info about gpt/uefi vs mbr/bios | 20:22 |
| prologic | heh | 20:22 |
| prologic | I’ll have to do some reading then | 20:22 |
| prologic | it’s all a bit silly ihmo | 20:22 |
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| prologic | hmm | 20:25 |
| prologic | bbl | 20:26 |
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| onodera | Romster: hi, your pillow port has a footprint error | 21:24 |
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| arian0n | sigh... | 22:32 |
| arian0n | looks like I can't install LILO, and when I try to boot crux from GRUB, I get a kernel panic | 22:33 |
| onodera | what do you mean can't install LILO? | 22:33 |
| onodera | also why would grub cause a kernel panic, isn't there something wrong with your kernel config? | 22:33 |
| z3bra | ^ | 22:35 |
| z3bra | or /sbin/init | 22:35 |
| arian0n | I'll start Paragon and look around | 22:35 |
| jaeger | if there's a panic, it's already past grub | 22:35 |
| z3bra | maybe grub doesn't point the the good kernel | 22:36 |
| greduan | LILO is included in every Linux isn't it? | 22:36 |
| arian0n | onodera, well Lilo succesfully says "Added CRUX *" and "Added Arch", it says that my drive doesn't have a boot sector | 22:37 |
| greduan | it's in core so you should be able to install it | 22:37 |
| greduan | oh | 22:37 |
| arian0n | well, something like that, didn't memorize the message | 22:37 |
| greduan | lsblk? | 22:37 |
| z3bra | greduan, how "included"? | 22:37 |
| greduan | z3bra: isn't it available in every distro? I thought it was something that's _always_ there | 22:37 |
| arian0n | anyways I'll check out the grub config, btw grub+os-prober auto detected it | 22:37 |
| z3bra | idk | 22:37 |
| onodera | arian0n: post your lilo conf pls | 22:38 |
| onodera | greduan: I had never heard of lilo before crux | 22:38 |
| z3bra | it's being forgotten | 22:38 |
| z3bra | though it's a great bootloader | 22:39 |
| z3bra | simple and efficient | 22:39 |
| arian0n | http://sprunge.us/giXX | 22:39 |
| arian0n | god DAMMIT | 22:39 |
| arian0n | just caught what was wrong with the conf | 22:39 |
| arian0n | other=/dev/sda1 | 22:39 |
| arian0n | but that doesn't explain why I get a kernel panic when booting from grub | 22:40 |
| z3bra | what's wrong with that? | 22:40 |
| arian0n | crux's root is sda1 | 22:40 |
| arian0n | winders' is sad2 | 22:40 |
| arian0n | sda2 | 22:40 |
| arian0n | found the issue | 22:40 |
| arian0n | linux /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/#ROOT_DEVICE# ro quiet | 22:41 |
| arian0n | thanks os-prober | 22:41 |
| arian0n | alright, let's try again, brb | 22:42 |
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| arian0n | well, all fixed! | 22:51 |
| greduan | gut | 22:52 |
| greduan | gud* | 22:52 |
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| arian0n | back to good ol' slow ass sysvinit | 22:56 |
| arian0n | but at least it's not a clusterfuck | 22:57 |
| greduan | you on Debian? | 22:58 |
| arian0n | I'm on winders right now since I'm downloading stuff, will start tinkering with crux tomorrow | 22:59 |
| arian0n | and no, doesn't crux use sysvinit though? | 22:59 |
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| z3bra | it does | 23:02 |
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| greduan | it does? | 23:03 |
| greduan | didn't know | 23:03 |
| arian0n | lol | 23:03 |
| arian0n | what did you think it used? | 23:03 |
| arian0n | definitely not upstart or systemd | 23:03 |
| greduan | just some BSD-like init. lol | 23:03 |
| arian0n | I'll look into runit tomorrow then, can't live without muh ultrafast 5 second boots | 23:05 |
| greduan | I have a 5 second boot though | 23:05 |
| greduan | or less | 23:05 |
| arian0n | SSD? | 23:05 |
| onodera | I boot in aroud 7 seconds, no ssd | 23:09 |
| greduan | no SSD | 23:09 |
| greduan | I don't startup the net though | 23:09 |
| greduan | I do that manually whenever I need it | 23:09 |
| arian0n | onodera, have you tried runit? | 23:10 |
| greduan | but from the moment LILO makes a choice on the kernel, it's only like 5 secs | 23:10 |
| greduan | more or less | 23:10 |
| onodera | arian0n: nope | 23:10 |
| arian0n | looks like a drop-in replacement for init, and it supports parallel initialization of services | 23:10 |
| greduan | I like parallel | 23:11 |
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| jsch | does anyone know off the top of their head whether linux 3.19.3 will work with our nvidia package out of the box? tried installing 4.0-rc6 and it didn't work and the patch currently in the port says it's for 3.18 | 23:13 |
| greduan | I use 3.19.3 but not nvidia | 23:14 |
| onodera | is use 3.19.1 and it works just fine | 23:17 |
| onodera | I don't see why nvdia would not work | 23:17 |
| jsch | onodera: you use nvidia? | 23:17 |
| onodera | yes | 23:17 |
| jsch | ok cool thanks | 23:17 |
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| prologic | yeesh | 23:48 |
| prologic | wtf requires Pillow in ports? | 23:48 |
| prologic | I keep telling you guys; “stop porting Python packages” :) | 23:49 |
| prologic | no really | 23:49 |
| prologic | $ prt-get dependent pillow | wc -l | 23:49 |
| prologic | 0 | 23:49 |
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| z3bra | prologic, in favor to "pip install" ? | 23:56 |
| prologic | absolteuly | 23:56 |
| prologic | it both packages and handling installation and uninstallation of python packages perfectly | 23:57 |
| prologic | re-packaging in Pkgfile, PKGBuild, whatever is completely pointless **unless** some other non-Python piece of software requires it | 23:57 |
| greduan | pip install++ | 23:58 |
| prologic | there is just no benefit unless you want your pkginfo -i or prt-get listinst to show your python installed packages — which if you’re even half a python developer is of no use to you since you should and wlll be working in a virtual environment or pip install to $HOME | 23:58 |
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