IRC Logs for #crux Thursday, 2015-06-25

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Worksterdxlr8r, prtsweep03:48
Worksteractually use prtwash that is better IMO03:49
Worksteroh joacim already replied bah -_-03:49
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miatomianybody up? just a quick question. would recompiling my kernel break my system? I forgot to change some options last time around and wanted to recompile05:10
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nwegood morning06:20
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tired890prologic, you there? can you please update pcmanfm to 1.2.3 ?07:19
tired890would appreciate it07:19
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Romstermiatomi> anybody up? just a quick question. would recompiling my kernel break my system? I forgot to change some options last time around and wanted to recompile <_ not at all if it's jsut to add a new module <M> then no reboot is even needed. just a "depmod -a" after.07:56
Romsterbuilt in yeah reboot after don't forget to run lilo before rebooting if you use lilo07:57
Romsterand not breaking only applies if you don't mess around with root filesystem built in disk controller driver and other similar system things like AHCI07:58
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frinnstRomster: mind updating fltk? current version breaks tigervnc, new version works08:16
frinnsthttps://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=114113708:17
Romsteryeah i have just not committed it i'll do that shortly08:23
Romsterbrewing coffee08:23
tired890Romster, can you by any chance update pcmanfm as well? I'm trying to modify the pkgfile myself.. but figured it will be better if its done proper..08:24
tired890contrib/pcmanfm08:24
Romsterthat is prologic's port he is active. or supposed to be08:26
tired890haven't seen him lurking here for long08:26
Romsterprologic, is usually busy make a bug report for a version bump on https://crux.nu/bugs/08:28
tired890done :)08:35
Romsterand be sure to assign it to prologic08:36
tired890I did08:36
tired890https://crux.nu/bugs/index.php?do=details&task_id=1202&project=108:36
Romstercool08:36
tired890by the way I settled on openbox08:36
tired890its great08:36
frinnstfluxbox>openbox!08:37
tired890I used fluxbox before.. frankly they are very similar08:37
tired890I just wanted something with the least amount of deps08:37
frinnstyes but no xml config craps08:37
tired890yup!08:38
frinnsthttp://obra.se/2015-06-24-080151_3840x1200_scrot.png08:39
tired890frinnst, what panel is that on the lower right side? tint2?08:41
frinnstno, fluxbox comes with a panel08:42
tired890I see08:42
frinnstshipping panel and no xml config - the difference between openbox and flux as far as I know08:42
tired890frinnst, I currently have openbox and tint2 running. nice combo the system is super light.. I do miss all the bells and whistles of xfce (the panel plugins mostly)08:44
frinnstI've never really used a DM08:44
frinnstnot since windows 2000 anyways08:44
frinnst(win2k was awesome)08:45
tired890now when I close X I dont see a load of gtk error msgs, which was the case of xfce08:45
tired890yup used it for quite a few years myself08:46
tired890now I have tint2 for my running apps etc08:52
tired890I need another panel at the top to start my apps, shortcuts, cpu usage..08:52
tired890please see screenie of my broken xfce here: http://postimg.org/image/8yd4zfmwx/full/08:52
tired890see panel at top? is there a lightweight alternative to xfce4-panel that provides similar functionality as can be seen in pic08:53
prologicI'm about08:58
prologicjust very busy sorry :)08:58
prologicwork, family, life etc08:58
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tired890thanks mate09:01
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: fltk: 1.3.2 -> 1.3.309:04
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: xdiskusage: 1.48 -> 1.5109:04
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.1]: harfbuzz-icu: 0.9.39 -> 0.9.4109:04
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: gudev: 3.0 -> 3.1.209:17
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.1]: eudev-32: 3.0 -> 3.1.209:22
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.1]: harfbuzz-32: 0.9.39 -> 0.9.4109:22
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.1]: libtiff-32: 4.0.4beta -> 4.0.409:22
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.1]: mesa3d-32: 10.5.7 -> 10.5.809:22
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mousscan someone tell me how to install and configure the virtualbox guest additions please ?10:40
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tired890mouss, this is installed from within the virtual machine11:37
tired890so just mount an iso of said additions and install from guest OS11:37
tired890frinnst, I installed slock (to lock screen), now I need a program to monitor X and if no activity after a few minutes, execute slock11:38
tired890xautolock does that.. but its not found in ports11:38
tired890hints for alternatives appreciated11:38
dxlr8rcreating a port is super easy in crux :) and for corner cases where it ain't just simply configure make, etc. take a look at the port in Archs ABS :)11:39
dxlr8ror pkgsrc11:39
tired890dxlr8r, are you suggesting I make a port? :)11:42
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rmullI wonder if we could write a script to convert Arch PKGBUILDs to Crux Pkgfiles11:44
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mechaniputerCertainly variable substitution would be easy, and pulling description, etc. The part that would be tricky would be making sure that names of deps were correct...11:48
mechaniputerYou'd almost need a centralized db mapping arch package names to all existing crux ports.11:49
mechaniputerBut leaving that part as manual work would be ok too.11:49
tired890so arch was forked from crux and now we fork its ports back to crux? :P11:49
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mechaniputerWell, I'll be pedantic and point out that it technically wasn't a port, and this also wouldn't be. :) They borrowed inspiration, we would borrow Pkgfiles/PKGBUILDS.11:50
mechaniputers/port/fork11:51
frinnsttired890: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/062c55d82578a436e27111:51
mouss_tired890 thanks, I'm feeling stupid right now :(11:51
mechaniputerAnybody have an idea about my ports licensing question that I sent to the list?11:53
tired890I think we've all been there mate11:53
tired890frinnst, did you just make that? many thanks mate11:53
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frinnstno, its from my supersecret-repo11:53
tired890why didn't you send it in a PM11:53
frinnsthttp://obra.se/11:54
tired890:)11:54
frinnstits no longer listed in the cruxdb because its very unpolished11:54
tired890I see11:54
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dxlr8rtired890: yes I do :) in my experience you need to be able to create/modify ports as a crux user12:32
dxlr8rI don't see how I could have managed without it. crux is a small distro, and you don't have the built in fine tunings of portage with USE flags, so, yeah12:32
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tired890dxlr8r, I will take your advice12:37
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dxlr8r:)12:37
onoderahttp://portdb.zero-io.net/ lists 5000+ ports12:39
onoderanot too bad12:39
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mouss_is it just me or no one can register on the website ?13:04
hhhhhhhhshould msmtp explicitly depend on libsecret13:15
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hhhhhhhhi removed libsecret and it stopped working13:15
hhhhhhhhbut i didn't try recompiling it without13:15
hhhhhhhharch's msmtp package does depend on libsecret13:16
jaegertry recompiling it without, that should answer the question13:16
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hhhhhhhhthere's a --with-libsecret13:22
hhhhhhhhso i guess no13:22
hhhhhhhh:d13:22
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rmullRomster: harfbuzz-icu footprint mismatch?13:30
rmullhttp://sprunge.us/fXHV13:31
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nwewb Romster13:52
Romsternwe, hi i pushed the fix but cruxbot arn't on14:00
nweRomster: which fix?14:04
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frinnstno more info than that14:37
jaegerI hate those14:37
jaegerfind a random document and send it back :D14:37
frinnsthaha14:37
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Romsterah sorry rmull15:24
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: unison: new md5sum (silent upstream update)15:33
rmullRomster: You da man15:35
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druid_droidHi crux'ers, there is one more site on the net about crux :)17:28
druid_droiddroid.byethost4.com17:28
druid_droidI'm reading now I can I publish same ports I created/change :)17:29
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miatomihello all! I know this is probably a common question, but I'm having trouble getting an installation of crux to find a rtlwifi binary which I've checked for and know is there... am I missing something?19:49
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nweprologic: there?21:05
tired890he is busy with life, kids...21:31
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teK___harfbuzz-32 needs a footprint update, Romster? :)21:51
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