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| druid_droid | installing for the first time crux for some one else :) | 17:17 |
| nwe | uh? | 17:24 |
| druid_droid | I stop installing windows for friends and family, before been crux user I install debian... | 17:28 |
| druid_droid | I managed to get usb booting with crux, I will use it to see disk health and then install crux | 17:29 |
| nwe | aha I see. | 17:30 |
| druid_droid | made a linux and dracut port ;P | 17:34 |
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| timcowchip | https://crux.nu/ports/crux-3.1/opt/slim/Pkgfile says # do NOT build slimlock (because of pam) | 17:46 |
| timcowchip | what about pam? | 17:46 |
| timcowchip | I believe pam is the reason I can't get any dm's to log me in | 17:47 |
| timcowchip | I can build and install gdm-2.20 and lxdm but I can't get either to log me in | 17:49 |
| frinnst | I dont think that's your issue :) | 17:54 |
| timcowchip | not pam? | 17:57 |
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| timcowchip | frinnst: is there a reason you know about that prevents dm's from loggin into an xsession? | 18:00 |
| timcowchip | maybe you're just saying pebkac? | 18:07 |
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| timcowchip | :) | 18:23 |
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| timcowchip | is it because there is no /etc/X11/Xsession file? | 18:54 |
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| timcowchip | there is a /usr/etc/X11/xinit | 18:57 |
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| frinnst | yeah, pretty much. others seems to manage it :) | 18:58 |
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| timcowchip | whher are the files that these lines referring to; | 19:25 |
| timcowchip | sysresources=/usr/etc/X11/xinit/.Xresources | 19:25 |
| timcowchip | sysmodmap=/usr/etc/X11/xinit/.Xmodmap | 19:25 |
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| timcowchip | http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/127172/how-do-display-managers-log-a-user-in | 21:39 |
| timcowchip | frinnst, so pam doesn't control diplay manager login ? | 21:40 |
| timcowchip | display | 21:49 |
| timcowchip | damnit I can't type for shit | 21:50 |
| prologic | PAM has nothing to do with X | 21:52 |
| prologic | no | 21:52 |
| jaeger | a display manager may require pam to authenticate, though | 21:57 |
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| timcowchip | http://pastebin.com/v0nRQP9j lxdm.pam | 22:03 |
| timcowchip | http://pastebin.com/QEehHee5 gdm.pam | 22:07 |
| timcowchip | both taken from arch source files | 22:08 |
| prologic | as jeager said | 22:08 |
| prologic | a display manager *may* require pam for auth | 22:08 |
| prologic | :) | 22:08 |
| prologic | I don't think I've ever used PAM tbqh | 22:08 |
| prologic | it adds an unnecessary layer of complexity I don't need | 22:09 |
| prologic | I just login to an agetty session and type: startx | 22:09 |
| prologic | when you never reboot that's sufficient :) | 22:09 |
| timcowchip | gdm and lxdm do use pam | 22:09 |
| timcowchip | I'm building gdm and lxdm | 22:09 |
| timcowchip | I like using a display manager | 22:09 |
| timcowchip | I don't like editing .xinitrc everytime I wan't to login into a different wm | 22:11 |
| prologic | you can use xdm/gdm without pam though | 22:11 |
| timcowchip | basically I don't like typing | 22:11 |
| prologic | I don't see the point of pam unless you want to do some fanyy auth | 22:11 |
| prologic | like auth against LDAP | 22:11 |
| prologic | if you don't like typing; you shouldn't use UNIX :) | 22:11 |
| timcowchip | like enter a user and password? | 22:12 |
| prologic | or; write better tools/shell-scripts :) | 22:12 |
| timcowchip | I have using nothing but unix/linux since 1995 and not having to type that much | 22:13 |
| prologic | good for you :) | 22:14 |
| timcowchip | good for me?........I'm just old that's all | 22:15 |
| timcowchip | never learned how to type | 22:15 |
| timcowchip | men didn't type when I went to school | 22:15 |
| prologic | haha | 22:16 |
| timcowchip | :) | 22:16 |
| prologic | never too late to learn | 22:16 |
| prologic | get an Apple keyboard | 22:16 |
| prologic | low travel times on the keys | 22:16 |
| prologic | easy on the fingers :) | 22:16 |
| jaeger | I learned to type just by using computers for 20+ years, it seems like a natural thing | 22:20 |
| timcowchip | I learned to click when the mouse was invented | 22:21 |
| prologic | indeed | 22:21 |
| prologic | same here :) | 22:21 |
| prologic | I guess it's 25 yers since I first touched a computer and typied on it haha | 22:22 |
| prologic | timcowchip, haha | 22:22 |
| prologic | I don't get the impression you're reallyh that old :P | 22:22 |
| prologic | most of the firs tcomputers I used didn't even have a mouse | 22:22 |
| joacim | didnt know what a computer was 25 years ago | 22:22 |
| prologic | some had joysticks (those really butt ugly, painful one) | 22:22 |
| joacim | i found out about them 23 years ago tho | 22:23 |
| timcowchip | c64 2 button mouse GEOS(graphics environment operating system) on a 5 1/4 floppy | 22:24 |
| joacim | http://i.imgur.com/We4VMem.jpg | 22:24 |
| joacim | my one and only joystick | 22:24 |
| timcowchip | nice | 22:24 |
| jaeger | I meant that I think you'd pretty much learn to type as a byproduct of computer usage. Though I have a coworker who proves that wrong, I guess | 22:59 |
| prologic | haha | 23:04 |
| prologic | how does he enter input? | 23:04 |
| jaeger | he types with only his index fingers, VERY slowly and loudly | 23:04 |
| prologic | oh geez | 23:07 |
| prologic | that's amazing | 23:07 |
| prologic | I don't think I've seen anyone do that in a veyr long time :) | 23:07 |
| timcowchip | I do that | 23:07 |
| timcowchip | not loadly, but slowly | 23:07 |
| timcowchip | loudly | 23:08 |
| jaeger | how have you used computers for that long and not become a quick typist? | 23:08 |
| timcowchip | by clicking whenever possible | 23:08 |
| jaeger | hrmm, ok | 23:08 |
| timcowchip | I write *.desktop that run a bash command in a termial | 23:09 |
| timcowchip | runs | 23:09 |
| timcowchip | give it an icon and put in on the panel or the desktop | 23:09 |
| timcowchip | my ~/.local/share/applications folder is full of them | 23:12 |
| prologic | oh man | 23:12 |
| prologic | you don't get the usefulness of the terminal and filters do you? :) | 23:12 |
| prologic | CUI(s)/GUI(s) are quite limiting | 23:13 |
| timcowchip | like 'history | grep revdep' | 23:13 |
| prologic | yeah | 23:13 |
| timcowchip | I use 'history | grep ' a lot | 23:14 |
| timcowchip | saves having to type it again | 23:14 |
| prologic | so much so you created an app launcher/icion for it? :) | 23:14 |
| prologic | lol | 23:14 |
| prologic | but you'd never be able to change the pattern without editing the launch configuration | 23:14 |
| timcowchip | most of them consist of 'urxvt -e <some bash command>' | 23:20 |
| prologic | hah | 23:21 |
| timcowchip | brb | 23:26 |
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| timcowchip | 'urxvt -e irssi' | 23:34 |
| prologic | so you at least type on IRC :) | 23:35 |
| prologic | haha | 23:35 |
| prologic | you can't write app luanchers for all your replies! | 23:35 |
| timcowchip | http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/2015-08-23-1637481024x768scrot.php | 23:39 |
| timcowchip | ~/.local/share/applications/ | 23:39 |
| timcowchip | brb | 23:52 |
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| timcowchip | anyway its not that I can't log into a single wm, even automatically without entering a user and password | 23:59 |
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