IRC Logs for #crux Wednesday, 2015-11-04

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skrzypWorkster: done01:15
skrzypbut building documentation fails01:15
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Romsterskrzyp, testing also if your gonna use git you should list git as a dependency01:37
Romster .footprint01:38
skrzypRomster: fixed01:39
Romsterprobably remove /usr/share/doc01:39
skrzypi mean, git dependency01:39
skrzypRomster: why?01:39
Romsteraand it's good to go01:39
Romsterwe consider doc junk, look at prtverify01:39
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Romsterup to you just saying01:40
Romstertabs/spaces arn't indented even on the Pkgfile either01:41
skrzypanyway, I need to add .footprints/md5sums to some of my ports01:41
Romsteryeah that also is bad not having those.01:41
skrzyp 24         rm -rf $PKG/usr/share/doc01:42
skrzyp 25         if [ ! -e /usr/bin/zsh ] && rm $PKG/usr/share/zsh01:42
skrzypis that ok?01:42
Romsteryou could do the second or leave it there.01:43
Romsterfor zsh01:43
Romsteryour call.01:43
Romsterbut looks ok01:43
Romsterprobably don't need asciidoc since your building without docs01:43
skrzypthe /etc/xdg looks bad too01:43
skrzypbut it's needed as bootstrap configuration01:43
Romsternot sure about that.01:43
Romster!pantieraid 5001:45
Romsterwrong channel01:45
Romsterit's a twtich thing01:46
Romstercd $PKGMK_SOURCE_DIR indented wrong01:47
Romsterbut looks otherwise ok01:47
skrzypRomster: you can look trough this:01:48
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Romsterholly shit my work isp connection is going to hell01:53
skrzypRomster: I saw that already01:55
skrzyp02:48 <skrzyp> Romster: you can look trough this:01:56
skrzyp02:48 <skrzyp>
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Romsteratari800 ? maybe you'd want to also go in to emulators repo?01:57
skrzypmaybe, but it needs to be enhanced with README about missing system ROM images and where to get them01:59
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deiviorI managed to get my notebook to boot and detect wlan0, load its firmware and even though ifconfig recognizes it, when scanning no networks are shown02:09
deiviorWhat could I've missed?02:10
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deiviorcompiled in02:16
skrzypbut check if it's not blocked by rfkill02:17
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skrzypWorkster: can you update hedgewars to 0.9.22?03:04
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Worksterskrzyp, on crux 3.2?03:31
rmullkori: Any chance you want to host a kicad port in your repo?
skrzyprmull: yes03:38
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Worksterthat will break some tools03:39
rmullWorkster: Recommendations?03:42
rmullavoid a compound $version and just hardcode the values in the URL?03:43
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Worksterlike that03:52
rmullYeah, I only split it up so that I wouldn't have to hardcode the URL. But that's fine too.03:54
Worksterurl is fine but some tools read the version= line03:55
rmullskrzyp: Here's the update:
Worksterlike portdb03:55
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skrzypRomster: anyway, hedgewars package is completely broken atm04:23
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deiviorskrzyp: It was wext, I did not build that in.04:34
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deivior"Legacy compatibility. You can safely say N here"04:36
deiviorNow my ethernet card is not detected... hmm.. I've built the driver (e1000e) in04:37
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deiviorI needed e1000 too. Nice05:18
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tilmanjust found old mingw ports on my hard drive06:07
tired890lol I was tidying up my stuff today too and found some CDs (Jun 2009 Backup)06:56
tired890nostalgic seeing CDs alone actually.. dont have a CD drive anymore06:56
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tired890if one had identical code for many clients but with slight differences, what is a good way to keep track of all the changes and update individual (ie shared files) among all mirrors, yet keep some unique files (ie config files etc)?07:05
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tired890someone's been busy11:08
tired890nice work11:08
druid_droidI have to try 3.211:08
tired890i hear its almost ready11:09
druid_droidsorry to ask here, how do I redirect stdout and stderr inside a bash script to a file11:34
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deep42thoughtHi, is it common, that I receive any email from the crux-mailing-list twice (actually some 4 times: twice for crux 3.1 and twice for crux 3.2) or have I managed to subscribe twice to the list?11:41
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z3brayeah me too11:50
druid_droiddeep42thought: I have checked, me too11:50
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frinnstyeah Its a known issue (sorry)13:05
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nwedoes someone has any script for dell racadm to check disk status ? :)13:24
nweif so... wanna share it with me ? ^^13:24
frinnstall hp here13:25
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nwefrinnst: okey =)13:28
nwewrong terminal13:33
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john_cephalopodagcc-fortran conflicts with gcc.14:02
frinnsthow so?14:22
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john_cephalopodafrinnst: gcc-fortran contains libs that are also in gcc. But gcc-fortran can't replace gcc because some libs that are in gcc are not in gcc-fortran.15:09
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frinnstyeah that I understood, i was thinking you could paste the error or something15:09
frinnstyou are using crux 3.1, right?15:10
john_cephalopodaI have closed the terminal unfortunately. Also I just forced install because I couldn't do anything else. Removing didn't work because some tool needed the lib that was not there any more.15:11
frinnstanyways, poke romster on irc or via email, or open a bugreport15:11
frinnstyeah you will need to force-upgrade core/gcc before you can remove gcc-fortran i'd suspect15:12
john_cephalopodaI removed core/gcc, installed gcc-fortran. Then some applications stopped working because of a missing lib. I couldn't remove gcc-fortran and install gcc for some reason, so I just installed -f'd gcc over gcc-fortran.15:14
Wildefyrseems like a good way to break a source distro15:14
Wildefyruninstall the compiler !15:14
frinnstlol yeah, gcc is a *runtime* dependency of all sorts of things15:15
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Wildefyraaaa firefox update15:24
Wildefyrits so fat15:24
frinnstchromium is sooo much worse15:41
WildefyrI believe you15:44
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rmullIs anyone using a setup with an SSD as a cache for rotating disks?15:48
rmullusing bcache or similar15:49
Wildefyrmaybe one day when I can finally nuke windows15:53
Wildefyrit's been relegated to my 60gb ssd that would do nicely as a cahce15:53
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: php-ftp: update to 5.6.1516:31
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Wildefyrwhen did we get a bot?!?16:34
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koriWildefyr: we've always had a bot16:44
koriit was just dead16:44
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Wildefyrnice job resurrating it then16:46
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deep42thoughtHi, I installed crux, but got stuck at getting X running. Is there a guide how to create a /etc/X11/xorg.conf or with what to fill /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/?20:04
deep42thoughtI have been using it on a headless machine before, so I avoided this step.20:04
tilmanthese days you shouldn't need an xorg.conf anymore. input devices and graphics card should be autodetected20:07
tilman - is xorg-xf86-input-evdev installed? (it should)20:07
tilman - is xorg-x86-video-YOURDRIVER installed?20:07
tilmandid you enable kernel mode setting (in the kernel ;)20:08
deep42thoughtwhere do I find that20:08
deep42thoughtprobably not20:08
tilmanfor radeon cards, you will need to install opt/radeon-ucode20:08
darthlukanI'm trying to install freetalk and after a lot of troubleshooting and debugging with the package maintainers, we've discovered that the issue is that my automake installation does not have "/usr/share/automake-1.15/texinfo.tex", a required file for this package's makefile generation. Is there a reason why automake has that file removed from the port?20:08
tilmandeep42thought: find what? kms?20:08
tilmanit should show up in dmesg20:08
darthlukandeep42thought: Try adding "nomodeset" to your kernel line in your boot loader config. I've had to do that on every video card since 200520:09
darthlukanthat will turn off KMS (Kernel Modesetting)20:09
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darthlukanregarding my issue, here's a link to the relevant conversation with the package maintainers of freetalk:
tilmancrux doesn't have texinfo20:11
tilmanthat might be why automake doesn't install it20:11
darthlukanwell, that explains a lot :)20:11
tilmani remember texinfo causing ... issues in crux. but not sure of the details20:12
darthlukanhmmmm, then maybe I should rethink if I really need this package or not. I did install texinfo and its deps, but I didn't go so far as to modify the automake Pkgfile yet. Figured I'd ask first so as to save myself a blowup20:13
deep42thoughtit looks like I have CONFIG_DRM_KMS_HELPER and CONFIG_DRM_KMS_FB_HELPER in my kernel, is that, what you mean?20:13
darthlukanI'd rather not mess with ports in Core, they are the way they are for most likely very valid reasons discovered during a lot of painful debugging20:13
tilmancan you patch freetalk so it won't require texinfo?20:14
tilmanmight be a pita, but :|20:14
tilmandeep42thought: well, what does /var/log/Xorg.log say?20:14
darthlukantilman: I can look into it. It's about out of my skill range so far as their build setup is concerned (I have rudimentary knowledge of C and Makefiles), but I can make it a personal project to figure it out20:15
deep42thoughttilman: mainly "Device(s) detected, but none match those in the config file."20:15
tilmandeep42thought: paste the log at or wherever please20:16
deep42thoughtI'm at it20:16
deep42thoughtmy terminal won't let me :-(20:16
tilmanso which x video driver do you intend to use?20:16
tilmanwhat's your gfx hardware?20:16
deep42thoughtand the ati driver20:17
tilmanyour kernel will need CONFIG_DRM_RADEON20:17
tilmanif you build it as a module, put '/sbin/modprobe radeon' in /etc/rc.modules20:17
tilmanthen, see what dmesg has to say about radeon20:18
tilman[  2800.764] (II) [KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported.20:19
tilmanso yeah, CONFIG_DRM_RADEON in your kernel should get you to the next step20:19
deep42thoughtsays /proc/config.gz20:19
tilmanwhat does dmesg say20:19
tilman[    0.833894] radeon 0000:01:00.0: Direct firmware load for radeon/CEDAR_pfp.bin failed with error -220:21
tilman[    0.834060] r600_cp: Failed to load firmware "radeon/CEDAR_pfp.bin"20:21
tilman[    0.834165] [drm:evergreen_init] *ERROR* Failed to load firmware!20:21
tilman[    0.834259] radeon 0000:01:00.0: Fatal error during GPU init20:21
deep42thoughtoh, forgot to reboot after installation20:22
deep42thoughtstill have some errors at 0.8 in dmesg20:25
deep42thoughthaven't tried nomodeset yet20:25
tilmanimo you should first try to get modesetting to work20:26
tilmanpaste the error if you cannot figure it out...20:26
tilmandoes /lib/firmware/radeon/CEDAR_pfp.bin exist?20:28
tilmanfirmware loading can be disabled in the kernel20:30
deep42thoughtcan it be connected to having everything compiled into the kernel and not as a module?20:30
tilmanmight have to enable it20:30
tilmanbut i'm not sure what the option is called20:30
tilmanmight be worth trying20:31
deep42thought looks promising20:31
deep42thoughtwill try this20:31
tilmanthis one maybe20:35
deep42thoughtI have20:36
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frinnstno, if you have your dri driver builtin and not as a module, you'll need to bake in the firmware too20:39
frinnsteasiest is just have it as a module20:39
frinnsti like to make life difficult so this is the relevant part of my kernel config:20:40
frinnsteverything for those extra 1-2 seconds of kms high res goodness!20:41
deep42thoughtso I need all of the .bin's or only some?20:41
frinnstonly those that are needed for your card20:42
tilmanjust build it as a module20:42
frinnstbut really, build it as a module20:42
deep42thoughtok, one last try, then I build it as a module20:43
frinnstguess you also enjoy pain :-)20:44
deep42thoughtstill some error about unloadable radeon/CEDAR_pfp.bin20:51
deep42thoughtok, it looks, like I have to include one .bin after another ^^20:54
frinnstjust build it as a module20:56
frinnstatleast you'll see what firmware is needed20:56
deep42thoughtwoohoo, now my terminal is what I set up in the kernel earlier: more lines and more columns21:05
deep42thoughtlooks promising21:05
deep42thoughtand startx works, too21:06
deep42thoughtthanks a lot21:06
deep42thoughtwhat do you do, when you come home?21:08
tilmanwhat now?21:08
tilmangleisbau-simulator sounds awesome21:08
deep42thoughtrailroad tycoon?21:08
tilman'railroad track laying simulator' maybe21:09
deep42thoughtgood bye - I guess, I'll be back, soon, when the next problem occures :-/21:28
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deiviorCould you guys tell me how big is you kernel? /boot/vmlinuz*21:51
deiviorjust checking something21:51
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tired890mines 2.7M22:13
Worksterjohn_cephalopoda bump gcc-fortran to 4.8. rebuild. i'm doing that now.22:27
WorksterWildefyr i do provide built packages of firefox
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deiviorI've built every module I needed in (and it works) and disabled module loading. It's 5.2MB but there's nothing on /lib/modules/{version}23:39

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