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| j_v | broken download link in ports/contrib/lynx. submit bug report or report directly to maintainer? | 02:48 |
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| kori | j_v: email maintainer | 02:49 |
| kori | or hl him here | 02:49 |
| j_v | 'hl'? | 02:50 |
| kori | highlight | 02:50 |
| kori | ping | 02:50 |
| j_v | ah, thanks | 02:50 |
| tierd982 | meanwhile you can fix the pkgfile by putting a direct link so life goes on :) | 03:03 |
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| j_v | tierd982: thanks | 03:06 |
| j_v | i was just testing build with more recent version before pursuing further | 03:07 |
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| j_v | working link for lynx2.8.7 is http://invisible-mirror.net/archives/lynx/tarballs/lynx2.8.7rel.2.tar.bz2 | 03:59 |
| j_v | I tried to build lynx 2.8.8, but there is an issue with the build. By moving the /usr/include/ncursesw/ncurses.h link temporarily out of the way, I was able to build 2.8.8 | 04:01 |
| j_v | probably isn't worth the trouble | 04:02 |
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| Workster | in the case of mine i usually see the irc highlight | 04:12 |
| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.1]: lynx: 2.8.7 -> 2.8.8-p2 | 04:26 |
| Workster | working for me j_v | 04:26 |
| j_v | have you tried to build it on 3.2 yet? | 04:28 |
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| j_v | Workster: http://sprunge.us/BGbE is patch that makes lynx2.8.8-p2 build on crux 3.2 | 04:46 |
| j_v | i'm not saying that it's the right way to handle it, but it does do a good job of describing where the problem is | 04:50 |
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| Workster | oh you using 3.2 already | 05:17 |
| Workster | no i only just built new gcc-fortran on 3.2 so far | 05:18 |
| Workster | that seems like a hack? | 05:20 |
| j_v | if you look at fs#667 and then at https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17590, I wonder which approach is correct | 05:25 |
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| j_v | perusing gentoo bugs, https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=522586 seems to be related as well. the more i look at this the more i realize it's over my head. | 05:50 |
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| toriso | Hello | 11:10 |
| tired890 | hi morning/evening | 11:37 |
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| toriso | I got crux 3.2 installed, I dont have alsamixer while I have alsa-utils | 12:25 |
| toriso | I have it with root | 12:26 |
| tired890 | make sure you are in the audio group | 12:26 |
| tired890 | usermod -aG audio toriso | 12:27 |
| toriso | I just added myself | 12:27 |
| tired890 | logout and in for it to take effect | 12:28 |
| toriso | ok | 12:28 |
| toriso | all good, I forgot to logged off | 12:30 |
| toriso | ty tired890 | 12:30 |
| tired890 | np | 12:30 |
| shaggy814 | I had a strange problem when I initially installed 3.2. My chromium and atom would lag when scrolling. I decided to build 4.3 from kernel.org and the lag is gone. | 12:31 |
| shaggy814 | anyone see something similar? | 12:31 |
| j_v | i've seen some lagging here and there with firefox; didn't think much about it cause i use jumanji most of the time. i'll build a 4.3 kernel to see if that helps. | 12:34 |
| toriso | shaggy814: jumanji? never heard of it | 12:35 |
| toriso | I mean j_v | 12:35 |
| j_v | http://pwmt.org/projects/jumanji | 12:35 |
| toriso | I forgot how to use crux, how to add ports and such | 12:36 |
| shaggy814 | I basically cant live without atom at this stage, so the lag was unbearable haha | 12:36 |
| shaggy814 | but upgrading the kernel fixed it | 12:36 |
| toriso | good, you got it | 12:37 |
| toriso | I'm using crux 3.2 with dwm...it's superfast lol | 12:37 |
| shaggy814 | This week was my first time with crux, I came from gentoo | 12:38 |
| shaggy814 | I like it a lot so far, simplicity is nice | 12:38 |
| shaggy814 | toriso, I am on bspwm :P | 12:38 |
| j_v | my first week full time with crux, coming over from slackware, on 3.2, using bspwm also | 12:39 |
| toriso | shaggy814: I wanted to try wmfs2, but I forgot how to add ports so I went for dwm that I know | 12:39 |
| toriso | never heard of bspwm before | 12:40 |
| shaggy814 | https://github.com/baskerville/bspwm | 12:40 |
| toriso | you use dmenu with it? | 12:40 |
| shaggy814 | i use rof | 12:41 |
| shaggy814 | rofi* | 12:41 |
| tired890 | 4.3 introduced major changes to novueue driver. what gpu/driver are you using ? | 12:41 |
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| j_v | been using bspwm for a year or two now, sxhkd + lemonbar + dmenu | 12:41 |
| shaggy814 | thats the more common combination id say :P | 12:41 |
| toriso | it looks nice | 12:42 |
| shaggy814 | I am a big fan honestly | 12:42 |
| shaggy814 | its easy to build too | 12:42 |
| j_v | yeah, i have some code in lemonbar, mostly the randr stuff, so i'm kinda partial | 12:42 |
| toriso | you can have a background | 12:42 |
| shaggy814 | Im too dumb for lemonbar haha | 12:43 |
| shaggy814 | tint2 is more my speed | 12:43 |
| j_v | i've used tint2, very servicable | 12:43 |
| shaggy814 | toriso, i use feh or nitrogen for background | 12:43 |
| tired890 | perhaps before you jumped to 4.3, you could've tested by entering this into your chromebar: | 12:43 |
| tired890 | chrome://gpu | 12:43 |
| tired890 | this will tell if you have hw acceleration (and to what extent) | 12:43 |
| shaggy814 | tired890, i tried to force acceleration with command line options, but I will have too look there as well | 12:45 |
| tired890 | firefox/seamonkey: about:support. You should see the name of your gpu/driver. eg: on my box: Gallium AMD Cedar | 12:48 |
| shaggy814 | j_v, do you know any good resources to get started with lemonbar? | 12:48 |
| j_v | shaggy814, i would recommend looking at the example files that come with bspwm sources, ya know, the panel stuff... that's where i got my start | 12:50 |
| shaggy814 | j_v, thanks! I will have to look into it, I would like to at least give it a try, I hear so many good things about it | 12:51 |
| j_v | i needed to build some baskervilles other pkgs, like sutils, xtitle, but all pretty small and easy to build / package | 12:51 |
| j_v | i haven't published my crux-ports yet, but i'll try to get them available this weekend... i've got ports for all the stuff that would be needed | 12:52 |
| shaggy814 | looks like ill be adding another repo haha | 12:53 |
| crash_ | does anyone have problems with wifi on crux3.1/3.2? i installed on my new laptop and i built the kernel with module for my wificard and then install linux-firmware but when i run wpa_supplicant it says disconnected all the time. | 12:55 |
| j_v | shaggy814, you could also take a look at mpup... let's you add just the ports you want from different repos | 12:55 |
| shaggy814 | what wireless card do you have? | 12:55 |
| shaggy814 | j_v interesting, I havent seen that before | 12:56 |
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| crash_ | i have a realtek 8723BE and i tried a usb-wifi adapter too that is using rt2800usb driver and it sees the card but that is not working either, it says the same thing. | 12:57 |
| j_v | shaggy814, mpup is in the opt collection, man page describes how to set up... very easy | 12:59 |
| tired890 | crash_, so you can see the card in ifconfig but can't associate it using wpa_supplicant ? | 12:59 |
| crash_ | tired890: Yeah i used wpa_passphrase to make a config file for it. and i tried wicd too, but wicd does not see any networks at all | 13:00 |
| j_v | crash_, did you check dmesg to see that the module and firmware are loading without errors? | 13:01 |
| crash_ | j_v: it seems to be loaded correctly when i read dmesg, it found the firmware in firmware directory | 13:02 |
| tired890 | if he can see the card in ifconfig then yes its loading fine. must be wpa_supplicant misconfig | 13:02 |
| tired890 | crash_, use this: https://crux.nu/Wiki/WifiStartScripts | 13:02 |
| j_v | ah, ok, good point... i rarely have to mess with wifi, so i defer to your experience | 13:03 |
| tired890 | namely the bottom (second last script) put that in something like /etc/rc.d/wifi | 13:03 |
| tired890 | adjust name to match your wlan card | 13:03 |
| tired890 | in the wpa.conf file (where you have your generated passphrase), ensure you specify the ctrl interface | 13:04 |
| tired890 | ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant | 13:04 |
| crash_ | tired890: Thanks i will try that later on the laptop, and see if i can fix it. i hade some weird INFO: RCU_SCHED Stalls to on CPU0-3 don't know why. | 13:07 |
| tired890 | /usr/src/linux-4.3/Documentation/RCU/stallwarn.txt | 13:09 |
| crash_ | thanks will read that | 13:14 |
| frinnst | http://phoboslab.org/ztype/ | 13:24 |
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| druid_droid | hi crux'ers :) | 13:42 |
| shaggy814 | how's it going | 13:43 |
| druid_droid | fine, being away from computer, updating stuff :) | 13:43 |
| druid_droid | do I need a fresh install to upgrade to 3.2 ? | 13:43 |
| frinnst | no | 13:44 |
| frinnst | you can boot the iso and chose "upgrade" | 13:44 |
| shaggy814 | j_v, mpup is awesome, thanks for the tip :D | 13:45 |
| druid_droid | humm, I don't have cdrom, this install I don't use "setup" script and I never found it on cdrom | 13:46 |
| frinnst | You could use a usb-stick | 13:46 |
| shaggy814 | druid_droid, you can use a usb | 13:46 |
| frinnst | dd if=<path/to/iso> of=</path/to/usb-stick> | 13:46 |
| druid_droid | thanks, I will try later, if I have problems I will report | 13:47 |
| frinnst | 3.2 has not been released, btw | 13:47 |
| j_v | shaggy814, np | 13:47 |
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| j_v | frinnst, is it ok to continue to test 3.2 rc's? | 14:28 |
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| frinnst | of course | 14:35 |
| j_v | frinnst, ty | 14:42 |
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| shaggy814 | Is there any plans to allow prt-get to work through git? | 15:30 |
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| rmull | shaggy814: There is a git driver for ports that ships with git | 15:37 |
| rmull | Is that what you mean? | 15:37 |
| shaggy814 | Yes i suppose that is, I just wanted to make my own repo to hold all the stuff ive built manually and didnt know if I could use a git repo. | 15:39 |
| rmull | Yes, you can | 15:39 |
| rmull | You need to install the git driver, then put the appropriate repo.git file in /etc/ports | 15:41 |
| shaggy814 | Perfect :D | 15:41 |
| shaggy814 | That is great news. | 15:42 |
| rmull | I don't know if there is an example repo.git file anywhere, but if you want, here's an example contrib.git: http://sprunge.us/YCaH | 15:43 |
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| shaggy814 | rmull, Thanks! I'll be working on this today | 15:44 |
| rmull | The file at /usr/ports/opt/git/git will need to be placed in /etc/ports/drivers | 15:44 |
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| rmull | Then a ports -u will use git for each of the ports repos with a .git file in /etc/ports | 15:45 |
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| tired890 | so I've been running my system with an undervolted cpu for a while and it seemed stable | 16:40 |
| tired890 | today I downloaded mprime and to my surprise many tests failed | 16:40 |
| tired890 | system doesn't hang, but get calculation errors | 16:40 |
| joacim | pretty common. "seems fine" and being stable is two very different things | 16:48 |
| joacim | dont think too many people test their overclocks with torturetests like superpi or furmark i think | 16:48 |
| tired890 | I thought furmark was gpu only.. | 16:49 |
| joacim | it is | 16:49 |
| joacim | i included it since people also tend to overclock their gpu | 16:49 |
| tired890 | I tested using mprime (linux equiv of prime95) | 16:49 |
| joacim | or me, i lowered the power limit by 20% to keep it from throttling down | 16:50 |
| joacim | yeah | 16:50 |
| tired890 | what cpu? | 16:50 |
| joacim | i always test with some cpu stress test for my overclocks | 16:50 |
| joacim | i5 4690 | 16:50 |
| joacim | but that one is running at stock | 16:50 |
| joacim | was talking about my graphics card. r9 290. some "OC" version by gigabyte | 16:51 |
| tired890 | I see | 16:51 |
| joacim | the higher clockrates doesnt make it run hotter than the reference clocked ones, but the cooler is shit | 16:51 |
| tired890 | is it one of those windforce 3 fan coolers ? | 16:52 |
| joacim | only good thing i can say about it is that the the vrm makes contact with the main heatsink instead of having its own tiny little heatspreader | 16:52 |
| joacim | yes windforce 3 | 16:52 |
| tired890 | http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4884#bios | 16:53 |
| joacim | yeah i upgraded the bios | 16:53 |
| tired890 | mines very similar but its the lower end 270 | 16:53 |
| joacim | tested with the one from their reference clocked version too | 16:53 |
| tired890 | unfortunately I think its bottlenecked (when playing games with qemu/gpu-passthru) | 16:53 |
| tired890 | hence I was looking into tuning the 8350 | 16:54 |
| joacim | 250-300W-ish card, box says the cooler can handle 450W. smells like bullshit to me =) | 16:54 |
| joacim | its an ok card, but runs way too hot | 16:54 |
| joacim | motherboard and cpu, or my old graphics card doesnt get that hot in that case either | 16:55 |
| tired890 | disabling nested page tables helped alot but jaeger reported it made no difference on his intel setup.. so I was wondering if there is another "undocumented" setting that could magically increase performance too | 16:55 |
| tired890 | usually these windforce cards are praised for their temps | 16:55 |
| joacim | been thinking about a setup like that for a while | 16:55 |
| tired890 | perhaps clean and re-apply thermal paste (quality one) ? | 16:55 |
| joacim | think it could be fun if i could easily switch between winxp and win10 depending on the kind of games i want to play | 16:56 |
| joacim | already reapplied the thermal paste | 16:56 |
| joacim | made no difference | 16:56 |
| tired890 | with a passthru setup, that'd literally take 20seconds (given img file is on an ssd) | 16:57 |
| joacim | got a few winxp era games that have issues on my windows 7 install | 16:57 |
| tired890 | touch the pipes that come from the side, do they get hot? if not that says there is not enough pressure between gpu die and heatsink, might consider something to increase pressure | 16:58 |
| tired890 | would be surgical tho (warranty possibly void) | 16:59 |
| tired890 | reminds me of a few years ago a friend of mine wanted to play CoD and for some reason the fan on the graphics card went bust, I removed the gpu fan and stuck a cooler master case fan there right over the heatsink.. temps went waaay down.. no power management, was feeding from psu at full rpm! smooth fps though :) | 17:02 |
| joacim | yeah it gets pretty hot | 17:03 |
| joacim | might just be a flawed cooler too, so the heat doesnt spread out to all the fins | 17:04 |
| joacim | if the heatpipes doesnt make proper contact everywhere | 17:04 |
| joacim | seen some users report load temperatures of high 70s, but seen lots of users report 94C too | 17:05 |
| joacim | my plan was to replace the fans with some new ones that moved more air =) | 17:06 |
| joacim | can get fans that fit the mounts from ebay | 17:06 |
| tired890 | yes | 17:06 |
| tired890 | thats why I asked to touch the pipes, to see if heat is transferring (but not dissipating) or not transferring off gpu die at all | 17:07 |
| joacim | might just make it louder tho. airflow is noisy too | 17:07 |
| tired890 | careful of course when you touch them | 17:07 |
| joacim | my most quiet machine is actualy my mac mini with its tiny laptop blower | 17:07 |
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| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.1]: gtk3: updated to 3.18.4 | 18:34 |
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| toriso | shaggy814: trying bspwm...not easy | 20:02 |
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| shaggy814 | toriso, do you want my dotfiles? | 20:13 |
| shaggy814 | itll give you a start | 20:13 |
| toriso | sure | 20:18 |
| shaggy814 | https://github.com/shaggy814/dotfiles2/tree/master/bspwm | 20:19 |
| toriso | shaggy814: I cant open xterm, I only have a black screen, no mouse | 20:19 |
| shaggy814 | do you have sxhkd installed? | 20:20 |
| toriso | yes | 20:20 |
| toriso | I have to create the bspwmrc? | 20:21 |
| shaggy814 | yes or you can copy mine | 20:22 |
| shaggy814 | if you have sxhkd started you should be able to get an xterm | 20:22 |
| toriso | super+enter...right? | 20:22 |
| j_v | also, don't forget, also need a config file for sxhkd | 20:22 |
| shaggy814 | i believe that is the default | 20:22 |
| shaggy814 | you can snag my sxhkd from github too if you want | 20:23 |
| shaggy814 | its basically just default options | 20:23 |
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| toriso | how do I open dmenu? | 20:25 |
| shaggy814 | super + enter | 20:25 |
| j_v | super + space | 20:25 |
| shaggy814 | super + space | 20:25 |
| shaggy814 | my bad | 20:25 |
| toriso | it's not opening | 20:26 |
| toriso | something is not working | 20:26 |
| shaggy814 | is sxhkd running? | 20:26 |
| shaggy814 | like from xinitrc | 20:26 |
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| toriso | I got sxhkd & xterm & exec bspwm in my xinitrc | 20:26 |
| shaggy814 | hmm | 20:26 |
| toriso | so I have xterm on | 20:27 |
| j_v | do you have ~/.config/bspwm/bspwmrc and ~/.config/sxhkd/sxhkdrc ? | 20:28 |
| toriso | j_v: no | 20:29 |
| j_v | here is my sxhkd http://sprunge.us/XVci | 20:29 |
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| j_v | and my bspwmrc http://sprunge.us/hSYZ | 20:31 |
| j_v | don't use the bspwmrc... i'll simply it cause it's got stuff that only works if you have other progs too | 20:31 |
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| toriso | not easy when I have only one xterm, lol, have to open pcmanfm firefox from xterm | 20:32 |
| j_v | oh, not so bad, just remove the line that has 'panel &' | 20:33 |
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| j_v | ah, yes difficult | 20:34 |
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| j_v | you could save the pastes to the correct file in firefox then edit them from vim/nano/emacs | 20:35 |
| j_v | maybe? | 20:35 |
| j_v | or use wget: mkdir -p ~/.config/sxhkd; wget http://sprunge.us/hSYZ -O ~/.config/sxhkd/sxhkdrc | 20:38 |
| j_v | mkdir -p ~/.config/bspwm; wget http://sprunge.us/hSYZ -O ~/.config/bspwm/bspwmrc | 20:38 |
| j_v | damn... my first wget is wrong... that is the bspwmrc | 20:39 |
| j_v | should have been: mkdir -p ~/.config/sxhkd ; wget http://sprunge.us/XVci | 20:40 |
| toriso | ah I just did it lol | 20:40 |
| j_v | should have been: mkdir -p ~/.config/sxhkd ; wget http://sprunge.us/XVci -O ~/.config/sxhkd/sxhkdrc | 20:40 |
| toriso | I did it again | 20:41 |
| j_v | once those are in place and you've removed the panel line from bspwmrc, then restartx | 20:41 |
| j_v | if still problems, then check for errors on bspwm startup, could be socket problem... sxhkd connects to bspwm through a socket using bspc... if there is a stale socket or can't be created at startup bspwm will not be able to comunicate with sxhkd | 20:45 |
| toriso | j_v: big thank you | 20:46 |
| j_v | did you get it working? | 20:46 |
| toriso | those wget commands really saved me time | 20:46 |
| toriso | yes it works, I will change my xinitrc again so I dont see xterm | 20:47 |
| j_v | cool | 20:47 |
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| j_v | shaggy814, sorry for jumping in... sometimes i'm a bull in a china cabinet | 20:48 |
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| shaggy814 | j_v, youre more knowledgeable than I, I never mind :D | 20:49 |
| shaggy814 | toriso, welcome to the dark side | 20:49 |
| toriso | shaggy814: hehe, I like that side :) | 20:50 |
| toriso | there's no tab? | 20:50 |
| j_v | that's why i use a bar program... lemonbar | 20:51 |
| toriso | I'm installing jumanji as well :) | 20:51 |
| j_v | for the bar, the source for bspwm has good examples for getting started, some take some extras from baskerville's other progs and collections | 20:52 |
| toriso | I got lemonbar | 20:54 |
| j_v | https://github.com/baskerville ... i use xtitle and sutils and the panel_bar example, modified for two monitor | 20:54 |
| toriso | how do I close a window? | 20:55 |
| j_v | super + w is default | 20:55 |
| j_v | super + {h,j,k,l} for moving left,down,up,right respectively... like vi h,j,k,l | 20:57 |
| tilman | toriso: save the time, jumanji sucks | 20:58 |
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| toriso | jumanji need webkit | 20:59 |
| shaggy814 | i just use firefox with vimperator and stylish to get my fix | 21:00 |
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| j_v | shaggy814, i had heard of vimperator, but never tried it before... ty for mentioning it. playing with it now. | 21:06 |
| toriso | there's a learning curve | 21:13 |
| toriso | crux 3.2 is stable, I have trouble with pcmanfm, I cant pick for example, I cant pick leafpad to open a note, I have to type in the terminal leafpad /path/tofile | 21:22 |
| toriso | shaggy814: hehe, I like that side :) | 21:22 |
| toriso | sorry shaggy lol | 21:22 |
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