IRC Logs for #crux Saturday, 2015-11-28

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Romsterjohn_cephalopoda i tested qt4 and qt5 without more details we can't do much.02:49
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Romsteri wish those that open bug reports would assign them to the "Maintainer"04:40
Romsterthan no one.04:40
Romsteror to the group that looks after it04:40
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: git: footprint update for perl 5.2207:22
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: imagemagick: footprint update for perl 5.2207:22
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: irssi: footprint update for perl 5.2207:22
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: p5-xml-parser: footprint update for perl 5.2207:22
cruxbot[opt.git/3.1]: mysql: disable tcp_wrappers07:22
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jueamz: my port depends only on stuff we ship with our ISO, I don't like it if my wm depends on a lot of special libraries like yajil or libev07:59
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: msmtp: update to 1.6.308:33
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: alsa-plugins: 1.0.29 -> 1.1.008:36
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: chrony: cleanup README, remove keyfile entry from config file08:39
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: harfbuzz-icu: 1.1.0 -> 1.1.209:11
Wildefyris the source for ruby-doc going to get updated09:32
Wildefyrbeen getting a 404 for a few days now09:32
jueWildefyr: will do later09:43
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nebg_hello everyone... i'm new to CRUX:.. and wanted to know... if everyone can put its applications into the port db...11:28
nebg_is it possible ?11:29
frinnstyes, sort of11:29
frinnstportdb tracks different repositories11:29
frinnstyou can ask to have your own repository listed11:29
nebg_frinnst, ok so if i make my own applications which does a certain thing... i can make my repo with my app and people from the communicty can download my application right ?11:29
frinnstyeah11:30
nebg_is this thing different from any other distro right ?11:30
nebg_i mean... it's difficult to have my own application in the debian repo or CentOS11:30
nebg_or gentoo right ?11:30
frinnstI dont know how other distributions does it11:30
teK____it's fairly easy to get your own repository registered on crux.nu/portdb  committing ports to {core,opt,contrib} is more difficult11:31
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retardother distros have equivalent systems, like PPAs (private package archives)11:51
retardbut just like other distros have more complex packaging systems, maintaining your own set of packages requires more work with them11:52
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Wildefyrah yes the beauty of crux indeed12:52
tilmanteK____, Romster: can you upgrade llvm and llvm-32 to 3.7.0 please?12:53
Wildefyr^12:53
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: ruby-doc: update to 2.2.312:58
Wildefyryay!13:03
nebg_is there a way i can see which display manager are installed on the system ?13:23
tilmandon't think so13:23
tilmani think crux comes with xdm by default13:24
tilmanmaybe even with slim13:24
nebg_ok thanks13:44
nebg_is it possible to install gnome3 without systemd ?13:44
frinnstwell, other unixes can run gnome3 still - so yes13:49
frinnstand gnome3 was released before systemd was a thing13:50
tilmansooo13:52
tilmanwhat's with these gtk3 scrollbars?13:52
tilmani mean, what the fuck?13:52
frinnstwhat?13:52
tilmanclose to being unusable13:52
frinnsti dont think they try for usability. it just needs to be shiney13:53
tilmanokay then!13:53
Wildefyrgnome3 or, as I like to call it gore314:06
Wildefyrhas anyone seen the height of those titlebars?!14:06
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teK____tilman: done, need to commit only14:35
teK____it took a darn long while to build, though14:35
tilmanteK____: same here14:36
tilmanwas just about to send you the diff ;p14:36
teK____hehe14:37
teK____I had to add a mkdir build; cd build and point to ../configure14:37
tilmanyes14:38
teK____I like these kinds of changes (not)14:38
frinnstare you still on 3.0 tek? :D14:41
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tilmananyway14:42
tilmanupgrade to 3.2 went smooth as usual here14:42
tilmanso gj on the release guys14:42
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: llvm: 3.6.2 -> 3.7.014:43
teK____:)14:43
teK____thanks for the hint14:43
teK____that feeling when your shitty ISP is overwhelmed by shitty online (flash-based) web-streams with ~100kbps bw14:45
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tilmani think in 2015, mesa shouldn't claim to depend on xorg-libxvmc16:09
tilmana) who cares about hardware accerelation for SD videos these days16:09
tilmanb) if you want it, just install and rebuild mesa (no footprint change)16:10
tilmanoops, there _is_ a footprint change (libXvMCnouveau.so, libXvMCr600.so)16:15
Wildefyragreed16:16
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dbrookewhat tilman said re upgrading (and scrollbars)16:19
dbrookejust running sysup now ...16:19
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dbrookelvm is great, I noticed the disk had reached 97% full while it was rebuilding qt5 so just made it bigger16:57
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Wildefyruse github gists?17:09
Wildefyrwhoops17:09
Wildefyrok here's a question17:13
Wildefyrhow to call shutdown as a user without requiring sudo?17:14
frinnstwell you could use something like acpid so you can poweroff by pressing the power button17:15
frinnstor use some complex framework to work around traditional unix permissions.. polkit?17:15
Wildefyrugh sounds messy17:16
Wildefyrwas hoping there was a cleaner solution17:16
dbrookeI remap ctrl-alt-del in /etc/inittab to halt rather than reboot but I guess that doesn't help if you mean to call from a script or something17:18
Wildefyryeah that's what I'm looking to do17:19
Wildefyroh well i'll figure something out eventually17:19
jaegeryou could allow the user to run /sbin/shutdown without a password in sudoers17:19
Wildefyrhow?17:19
jaegeruser ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /sbin/shutdown17:20
retardstill needs sudo, but it works17:22
jaegeryes17:22
Wildefyrthat's not an issue17:22
Wildefyrok let's give it a go17:22
retardthat is what sudo is for17:22
Wildefyrok nice it works17:24
WildefyrI guess I really should read up on sudo :D17:24
Wildefyrpermissions in general actually.. groups etc that kinda stuff17:24
Wildefyronly really know the basics17:24
retardit is pretty basic17:25
Wildefyrye just need to take the time to read it17:25
Wildefyrall17:25
Wildefyranyway I'm off to bed17:25
Wildefyrnight all17:25
retardvery limited complexity until you start messing with acls17:25
jaegernight17:25
retardthankfully17:25
retardnight17:25
Wildefyrheh17:25
jaegertilman: building llvm-32 3.7.0 now17:33
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cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.2]: llvm-32: updated to version 3.7.018:23
mechaniputerIt has been awhile since the iso building wiki page was updated. Do those steps still work fine for 3.2?18:29
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korisup18:47
korijust upgraded18:47
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jaegermechaniputer: looks like it's mostly still accurate18:56
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cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.2]: alsa-lib-32: 1.0.29 -> 1.1.023:55
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.2]: harfbuzz-32: 1.1.0 -> 1.1.223:55
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.2]: libgmp: 6.0.0a -> 6.1.023:55
RomsterWildefyr, sudo shutdown -h now23:57
RomsterWildefyr, sudo /sbin/shutdown -h now23:57
Romsterthe second one forgot the path23:58

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