| jaeger | busy with work... lots of puppet | 00:02 |
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| john_cephalopoda | I can't reach crux.nu | 00:05 |
| john_cephalopoda | Well, I can reach it but 75% package loss | 00:06 |
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| jaeger | something about your route to there, maybe... it seems ok from my end | 00:09 |
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| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.2]: firefox: updated to 43.0 | 01:31 |
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| xeirrr | teK____: Can you fix irssi source url? ^ it seems that they redesign the whole web and move to github. | 01:39 |
| Romster | let me guess and no name on there files. | 01:40 |
| Romster | i am gonna rage at github one of these days | 01:40 |
| frinnst | http://distfiles.obra.se/irssi-0.8.17.tar.bz2 <- unless you already found the source someplace else | 01:40 |
| xeirrr | thanks, guys. I downloaded it from github | 01:41 |
| Romster | i'm just gonan write a script to mirror the files off github i think | 01:41 |
| Romster | with filenames | 01:41 |
| frinnst | what, 0.9.4.tar.gz isnt descriptive enough? :D | 01:41 |
| Romster | nope :D | 01:41 |
| brian|lfs | everything needs to be .xz or .lzma | 01:46 |
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| brian|lfs | firefox failed for me trying again | 02:20 |
| brian|lfs | still failed | 02:49 |
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| rmull | brian|lfs: Are you referring to the build? Does it fail during linking? Do you have enough RAM? | 03:20 |
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| brian|lfs | yes 32GB of ram | 03:28 |
| brian|lfs | wow | 03:28 |
| brian|lfs | https://gist.github.com/1ae8dbb5d0d9fe0ad1cd | 03:28 |
| brian|lfs | don't look like linking to me but I could be wrong | 03:29 |
| rmull | hoo boy, internal compiler error... | 03:33 |
| rmull | The last time I got those, I bought a new computer | 03:33 |
| rmull | lol. | 03:33 |
| rmull | I recommend making sure your PC's cooling is sufficient and running a memtest | 03:33 |
| brian|lfs | ok | 03:35 |
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| brian|lfs | thats bad can't install memtest | 03:36 |
| brian|lfs | 86 | 03:36 |
| tired890 | download the iso and boot off it | 03:37 |
| brian|lfs | I would say 42 to 43c is hot | 03:39 |
| brian|lfs | ouch | 03:39 |
| jaeger | yeah, that's too hot | 03:40 |
| jaeger | even if you have an AMD CPU :D | 03:40 |
| tired890 | what cpu cooler? clean with alcohol and reapply good TIM | 03:40 |
| brian|lfs | I have an fx-8350 with a heatpipe | 03:41 |
| tired890 | heatpipe? are you using the stock cooler? | 03:41 |
| brian|lfs | I"m lookingg online people saying as highg is 60c is safe lolwtf | 03:41 |
| jaeger | er, I did my math wrong, 43C isn't that bad under load | 03:41 |
| brian|lfs | no its nnot stock | 03:41 |
| tired890 | I have the same cpu | 03:41 |
| jaeger | It would be high for idle but not terrible | 03:41 |
| tired890 | 43c idle is very high | 03:42 |
| brian|lfs | well my motherboard says my fann is working lkol | 03:42 |
| brian|lfs | now that I've waited its at 40 | 03:42 |
| tired890 | watch -n 0.3 sensors | 03:43 |
| tired890 | then compile, you will see real time temps | 03:43 |
| tired890 | cpu sensor should be named k10 something | 03:43 |
| tired890 | sensors is in lm_sensors prt | 03:44 |
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| brian|lfs | ok | 03:48 |
| brian|lfs | anything I have to install for that | 03:49 |
| tired890 | prt-get depinst lm_sensors | 03:49 |
| tired890 | also, you need to modprobe the kernel module, most AMD motherboards have ite, so run this: | 03:50 |
| tired890 | modprobe it87 | 03:51 |
| tired890 | then run the watch command I posted above and you should see temps and voltages neatly | 03:51 |
| brian|lfs | it keeps spitting help back like the command is wrong | 03:52 |
| tired890 | what command? | 03:52 |
| brian|lfs | oh just met | 03:52 |
| brian|lfs | my kernel don't have the modules and the link is bad for lm_sensors | 03:53 |
| brian|lfs | 404 error | 03:53 |
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| tired890 | google the exact filename you should find a ton of sources, copy the full link replacing the url in the Pkgfile. md5 will ensure integrity of contents so no worries\ | 03:54 |
| jaeger | looks like their entire site is gone | 03:55 |
| brian|lfs | I know I could do that was more a FYI | 03:55 |
| brian|lfs | trying firefox again anyhow | 03:55 |
| brian|lfs | must admit my fx-9350 was one of my cheapest builds | 03:56 |
| tired890 | for a linux user its still a very potent cpu.. | 03:57 |
| brian|lfs | ya | 03:57 |
| brian|lfs | my friend told me a few years ago must people could get by with an Intel core 2 duo for what they do | 03:58 |
| brian|lfs | I think its past the failure already | 03:58 |
| brian|lfs | its still compiling | 03:58 |
| ryu0 | rmull: oops. sorry. :x | 04:00 |
| brian|lfs | I think I paid $350 for my board and chip had all the other parts already | 04:01 |
| tired890 | does it seem like your PC is about to take off in terms of rpm? ;) | 04:01 |
| tired890 | also you have -j8 for flags right? make sure you squeeze the juice out of all cores | 04:01 |
| brian|lfs | had a strange board for ASUS had to losen the screws on my board to get heatpipe on | 04:02 |
| brian|lfs | lol | 04:02 |
| brian|lfs | someone told me to do j6 because it runs faster for them | 04:02 |
| tired890 | you should've told em cool story bruh | 04:03 |
| tired890 | unless throttling is an issue, then yes | 04:03 |
| brian|lfs | lol | 04:03 |
| brian|lfs | I guess that would make sense if your trying to watch porn at the sametime lol | 04:03 |
| tired890 | crux helps you get rid of bad habits by needing many steps to enable HW acceleration ;) | 04:04 |
| brian|lfs | I think it was Romster that told me thhat | 04:05 |
| brian|lfs | firefox failed again | 04:05 |
| brian|lfs | took much longer | 04:05 |
| Workster | recompile firefox with -O1 | 04:05 |
| brian|lfs | you mean -j 1 or O1 | 04:06 |
| Workster | CFLAGS+=' -O1' | 04:07 |
| brian|lfs | ok | 04:07 |
| Workster | as -)2 has a crazy bug in gcc 5.x | 04:07 |
| brian|lfs | thats whhat I thhought | 04:07 |
| Workster | -O2 | 04:07 |
| Workster | that firefox and wine keep hitting | 04:07 |
| jaeger | does that bug actually prevent firefox from building? It doesn't with wine, just breaks runtime | 04:08 |
| brian|lfs | strange wine builds fine for me | 04:08 |
| jaeger | Yes, it builds fine. | 04:09 |
| tired890 | did you tinker with any BIOS settings? I undervolted my CPU and thought all was running ok until I tried mprime and found it throwing various errors (calculations not matching and whatnot), note the system was running fine.. | 04:09 |
| tired890 | so if you "overclocked" or anything like that go to stock and try again | 04:10 |
| Workster | actually never mind frinnst has set it to -Os | 04:10 |
| Workster | :exit | 04:10 |
| Workster | doh | 04:10 |
| tired890 | http://www.mersenne.org/download/ | 04:10 |
| brian|lfs | anyone running GCC 5.3 besides me? | 04:12 |
| brian|lfs | I know Romster | 04:12 |
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| brian|lfs | I'm trying firefox in my docker image | 04:15 |
| brian|lfs | but take some times seems everything is downloading slow and I was missing lots of deps | 04:15 |
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| Workster | http://crux.ster.zone/packages/3.2/ uploading firefox#43.0-1.pkg.tar.xz | 04:17 |
| Workster | that's how i built that in a docker image. | 04:17 |
| Workster | just wget that ^ and pkgadd -u ... | 04:18 |
| brian|lfs | huh | 04:18 |
| brian|lfs | oh ok lol | 04:18 |
| xeirrr | Workster: Do you have qt4 binaries for 3.2? | 04:18 |
| brian|lfs | that's what I figured when I saw the package name | 04:18 |
| jaeger | you should test your RAM, though, and perhaps dust/clean the heatsink and fan | 04:19 |
| jaeger | maybe even reapply thermal compound | 04:19 |
| Workster | probably i'll upload that after | 04:19 |
| xeirrr | thanks | 04:20 |
| brian|lfs | agree | 04:29 |
| brian|lfs | I've never had memtest fail on any machine does it pop up with a red screen or something if it fails | 04:30 |
| jaeger | You'll see a lot of spam in the window with failed addresses if it does | 04:31 |
| Workster | it'll show up red and say what memory range is bad | 04:31 |
| jaeger | most of the time if you get through an entire pass without errors you're fine | 04:31 |
| brian|lfs | ok | 04:31 |
| brian|lfs | that's kind of what I figured | 04:31 |
| brian|lfs | I'm installing CRUX 3.1 | 04:43 |
| brian|lfs | see if I can get something working I can see | 04:44 |
| Workster | xeirrr, uploading now. bear in mind i also have 4.8.6 and 4.8.7 the later is not in opt/qt4 yet. | 04:56 |
| Workster | the later has qtwebkit support. | 04:57 |
| xeirrr | Workster: thanks : | 05:00 |
| xeirrr | :) | 05:00 |
| Workster | it'll show up when it's finished uploading | 05:07 |
| brian|lfs | yes I spent like 3 or 4 days with Romster | 05:20 |
| brian|lfs | it drove us nuts | 05:20 |
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| brian|lfs | question why doesn't firefox has gstreamer and gst-pluginns as deps | 06:28 |
| xeirrr | Workster: you around? Does gst-plugins-bad-compat build for you? mine doesn't. It failed because it wants to provide for some old libvpx compatibility. Whether i rebuild libvpx or not, it failed anyway. So i drop it for old libvpx support: sed -i -e '29,31d' ext/vp8/gstvp8utils.h . Is this ok? | 07:14 |
| brian|lfs | I'll try it on my dock | 07:15 |
| brian|lfs | might be a feel bit of deps | 07:16 |
| xeirrr | it is | 07:17 |
| brian|lfs | I was pulling my head earlier turn out I somehow grabbed thhe source code to mesa for windows | 07:17 |
| brian|lfs | I"m installingn CRUX 3.1 and updated my system and they have pulled 10.6.9 from the web | 07:18 |
| brian|lfs | no wonder my downloads sucks | 07:21 |
| brian|lfs | my docker has romsters server in them | 07:21 |
| Romster | i'll look at it when get to it | 07:22 |
| Romster | that server is on 100mbit but i can't seem to get any decent speed off it. | 07:23 |
| Romster | where are you geolocation brian|lfs | 07:23 |
| brian|lfs | Washington DC | 07:23 |
| Romster | and what speeds do you get | 07:23 |
| brian|lfs | USA | 07:23 |
| brian|lfs | I have 75/75 | 07:23 |
| brian|lfs | just your server sucks | 07:23 |
| brian|lfs | from here at least | 07:23 |
| Romster | i ahev told yang this he keeps saying it's australias telstra | 07:23 |
| Romster | what speed do you download at off it? | 07:24 |
| brian|lfs | like 150KB tops | 07:24 |
| brian|lfs | it goes all over the place | 07:24 |
| Romster | crap that's about what i get | 07:24 |
| Romster | thought it was just me | 07:24 |
| brian|lfs | ok now that I look I get more like 100 tops | 07:25 |
| Romster | i'll talk to the admin about it | 07:25 |
| Romster | should be getting at elast 10mb/s | 07:25 |
| brian|lfs | ya its got to bet capped at 100kb | 07:25 |
| brian|lfs | where are you located Romster | 07:26 |
| Romster | i'm in australia the server isn't | 07:27 |
| brian|lfs | figured it wasn't near you | 07:28 |
| Romster | i asked my admin that runs it. | 07:28 |
| brian|lfs | is it as slow uploading | 07:29 |
| Romster | well i don't know because i can only upload at 70kb/s | 07:30 |
| Romster | shitie adsl2+ speeds | 07:30 |
| brian|lfs | we don't' have dsl 2+ in the usa | 07:32 |
| brian|lfs | so take it you all didn't put uefi support in crux 3.1? | 07:33 |
| brian|lfs | or at least the kernel doesn't have the modules | 07:33 |
| Romster | that came ou tin 3.2 | 07:33 |
| Romster | out in* | 07:33 |
| brian|lfs | weell I'll have to reboot to install my bootloader thehn | 07:34 |
| Romster | i think the problem is gcc 5 is shit | 07:34 |
| brian|lfs | it is firefox ended up compiling | 07:34 |
| Romster | they broke the ABI on gcc 5 and that's broken skype. | 07:34 |
| brian|lfs | even though it was pointing to hardware | 07:34 |
| Romster | i got firefox to compile on crux 3.2 | 07:34 |
| Romster | it's running it that is crap. unless you don't use -O2 | 07:35 |
| brian|lfs | woudln't for me I really need to reseat my heat sink and chheck my ram | 07:35 |
| nwe | good morning guys! | 07:36 |
| nwe | how are you today? | 07:36 |
| brian|lfs | wonder if we should just port the old GCC to crux 3.2 | 07:36 |
| brian|lfs | fine | 07:36 |
| nwe | nice to hear.. what are you doing this morning? :) | 07:36 |
| brian|lfs | funny thing is LFS is using 5x GCC | 07:36 |
| Romster | i was thinking of moving to crux 3.2 but using the older gcc | 07:37 |
| Romster | i'm still on crux 3.1 | 07:37 |
| Romster | and who said that firefox didn't list gst-plugins-base | 07:37 |
| brian|lfs | at least have it for apps like skype problem solved | 07:37 |
| Romster | prt-get info firefox | 07:37 |
| Romster | someone needs glasses | 07:37 |
| brian|lfs | strange so does sysup not pull deps then | 07:37 |
| brian|lfs | That's funny romster | 07:38 |
| brian|lfs | when I sysuped on 3.1 it never put gstreamer in | 07:38 |
| Romster | it's because if you got it installed already it wont be a depinst | 07:38 |
| Romster | prt-get deptree firefox | 07:38 |
| Romster | lookf or missing [ ] | 07:39 |
| Romster | missing the [i] | 07:39 |
| brian|lfs | that makes sense | 07:39 |
| brian|lfs | it was upgrading from a fresh install | 07:39 |
| Romster | but the iso upgrades by installing those two. | 07:39 |
| Romster | when you do the upgrade the normal way | 07:39 |
| Romster | from 3.1 to 3.2 | 07:39 |
| brian|lfs | ooh I'm just installing 3.1 | 07:40 |
| Romster | it however missed removing zip and tcp_wrappers out of core | 07:40 |
| brian|lfs | going to be daring yse kernel 4.4 rc5 | 07:40 |
| Romster | 3.1 doesn't have that on firefox. | 07:40 |
| Romster | which is why i was using romster/firefox-gst | 07:40 |
| brian|lfs | I should be able to install to EFI if I boot another ISO and chhroot correct? | 07:41 |
| Romster | but that's out of date now... | 07:41 |
| Romster | i might be confused didn't crux 3.1 firefox introduce gst-plugins-base... pretty sure it did | 07:41 |
| Romster | so much shit goes on ic an't keep track of it | 07:41 |
| brian|lfs | no clue got them bothh installed | 07:42 |
| Romster | look in the firefox Pkgfile for gstreamer | 07:42 |
| Romster | in the mozconfig section | 07:42 |
| Romster | ac_add_options --enable-gstreamer=1.0 | 07:43 |
| Romster | it is enabled for 3.1 | 07:43 |
| brian|lfs | Depends on: nss, libidl, gtk, python, alsa-lib, xorg-libxt, yasm, mesa3d, gst-plugins-base | 07:43 |
| brian|lfs | yup it is | 07:43 |
| Romster | and i've just started to compile gstreamer stuff 1.6.2 | 07:44 |
| brian|lfs | I still have stuff going inn my docker deps and more deps lol | 07:44 |
| Romster | atm i got 10 docker images | 07:45 |
| brian|lfs | here we go plugins finally | 07:45 |
| Romster | do you finally see why i go crazy now lol | 07:45 |
| Romster | work + all the ports and breakage now in gcc... | 07:46 |
| brian|lfs | did some dipshhit thinnk we don't need ABI support anymore | 07:46 |
| Romster | they decided to change it in gcc5.x | 07:47 |
| Romster | and optimize it more drastically i haven't read the changlog but they ended up breaking stuff in the process | 07:47 |
| Romster | work and other tings prevented me from upgrading to crux 3.2 early. | 07:48 |
| Romster | i'm usually on it before it's released. | 07:48 |
| brian|lfs | that would explain a lot of bugs releasing with no one on it | 07:49 |
| Romster | well the core devs were on it. i'm not a core dev | 07:49 |
| brian|lfs | if we added the old GCC to 3.2 would half the system hhhav eto be rebuilt for skype | 07:49 |
| Romster | pretty much | 07:49 |
| Romster | i'm wondering if you tired that C11 on qt4-32? | 07:50 |
| Romster | than the newer C14 that g++ defaults too. | 07:50 |
| brian|lfs | -- Packages where install failed | 07:50 |
| brian|lfs | gst-plugins-bad-compat | 07:50 |
| Romster | for the c++ language | 07:50 |
| Romster | fucking compat too grr | 07:50 |
| Romster | wine hasn't moved to 1.x yet | 07:50 |
| brian|lfs | base compiled fine | 07:50 |
| Romster | and other crap is lagging to move to 1.x gstreamer | 07:51 |
| Romster | have to patch legacy code. | 07:51 |
| Romster | libvpx changed symbools in a minor release them fucktards | 07:51 |
| brian|lfs | so what option would I have to throw at qt4 for C11 | 07:51 |
| Romster | API breakage is a MAJOR number change. | 07:52 |
| Romster | not a MINOR | 07:52 |
| Romster | libvpx 1.3 -> 1.5 | 07:52 |
| brian|lfs | I vaguely remember this conversation | 07:52 |
| Romster | yeah | 07:52 |
| Romster | it'll need patching | 07:53 |
| brian|lfs | think other people chimed in and said throw it in a docker | 07:53 |
| Romster | for skype | 07:53 |
| brian|lfs | and someone gave me a link to slackware thing | 07:53 |
| brian|lfs | yes | 07:53 |
| Romster | i said that | 07:53 |
| brian|lfs | for skype | 07:53 |
| brian|lfs | that would be a prick to pass the audio | 07:53 |
| Romster | it just works on 3.1 though | 07:53 |
| Romster | i dunno how the audio works though docker | 07:54 |
| Romster | and i refuse to use pulseaudio | 07:54 |
| brian|lfs | you would have to pass it I had a thing on doing that | 07:54 |
| brian|lfs | its a pain just to get X apps to open | 07:54 |
| brian|lfs | nevermind audio | 07:54 |
| Romster | one good thing my nose is not running like a tap today, yesterday was ugh. | 07:55 |
| Romster | you just set a DISPLAY no? | 07:55 |
| Romster | and it talkes to the hosts X11 | 07:55 |
| brian|lfs | something like thaht | 07:55 |
| brian|lfs | I had it open the other day in a docker image | 07:56 |
| brian|lfs | be interesting to make a distro that uses all dockers for every app | 07:56 |
| Romster | wth ok gtk wont build in docker hmm | 07:56 |
| Romster | failed to load "./apple-red.png": Couldn't recognize the image file format for file './apple-red.png' | 07:57 |
| Romster | Makefile:1014: recipe for target 'test-inline-pixbufs.h' failed | 07:57 |
| brian|lfs | https://blog.jessfraz.com/post/docker-containers-on-the-desktop/ | 07:57 |
| brian|lfs | which gtk | 07:57 |
| Romster | 2 | 07:57 |
| Romster | /usr/bin/gdk-pixbuf-csource | 07:58 |
| brian|lfs | mine upgraded thart earlier today no issue | 07:58 |
| brian|lfs | thhat | 07:58 |
| xeirrr | Romster: gcc -O2 breaks xmms2 | 07:58 |
| brian|lfs | dam keyboard | 07:58 |
| Romster | let me guess that's got the wrong ABI... rebuilds opt/gdk-pixbuf | 07:58 |
| Romster | xmms2 as well now that's 3 ports... | 07:58 |
| brian|lfs | didn't know anyone used xmms2 anymore | 08:00 |
| Romster | i use clementine xine-ui and mpv | 08:00 |
| brian|lfs | vlc baby | 08:01 |
| Romster | -_- | 08:01 |
| Romster | last time i looked at vlc codebase i puked | 08:01 |
| brian|lfs | that library broke on me lol | 08:01 |
| Romster | and that was a very long time ago | 08:01 |
| Romster | ok rebuilding gdk-pixbuf fixed gkt2 | 08:02 |
| Romster | gtk2 | 08:02 |
| brian|lfs | about to go to bed but eventually will build a kernel and reboot probably do xfce4 and compiz | 08:04 |
| brian|lfs | probably don't dare with KDE4 that thing is so broken | 08:04 |
| Romster | i need to talk to alan about that | 08:04 |
| brian|lfs | Whats the difference between you and a core dev that statement sounds like a core dev | 08:05 |
| Romster | i package like 500 ports in total. | 08:05 |
| Romster | i test stuff and i've been going though the kde repo in a docker container too. | 08:06 |
| brian|lfs | I forgot what I got stuck on last | 08:06 |
| brian|lfs | libvncc | 08:06 |
| Romster | i take on crap i don't need todo that benefits crux *shrugs* | 08:06 |
| brian|lfs | libvnc | 08:06 |
| brian|lfs | you have more patience | 08:07 |
| brian|lfs | then me | 08:07 |
| Romster | i even forked xorg when it went stale then got it merged back in to xorg.git | 08:07 |
| Romster | i just do shit :D | 08:07 |
| tired890 | useful **** | 08:07 |
| brian|lfs | I really think we need to just make a new iso with the old gcc | 08:07 |
| brian|lfs | or just add the old as a port | 08:08 |
| tired890 | so Romster, I still haven't upgraded to 3.2.. I gather from all the compile drama here I should hold the horses then? | 08:08 |
| Romster | i helped with the new revdep tool. | 08:09 |
| Romster | because the old one was too slow. | 08:09 |
| Romster | i just take on stuff... | 08:09 |
| brian|lfs | haven't tried the old but the new is quick | 08:09 |
| Romster | but lately i've been sitting back more. and letting my ports vegetate :/ | 08:09 |
| brian|lfs | wasn't trying to piss you off mann just asked a question | 08:09 |
| Romster | old was like 8 minutes or more... compared to 2 minutes 31 seconds to new | 08:10 |
| Romster | i'm not pissed at you dude | 08:10 |
| brian|lfs | didn't think so just upset | 08:10 |
| Romster | maybe, no one stopping anyone making a iso with the older gcc. | 08:11 |
| Romster | more frustrated at the state of linux and the world :D | 08:11 |
| brian|lfs | or we all go harass GCC onn irc | 08:11 |
| tired890 | what happened with linux (and the world) ? | 08:11 |
| Romster | should be doing that too. actually what is going on in there gcc mailing list... need to look at that. | 08:11 |
| brian|lfs | world is going to shit | 08:12 |
| brian|lfs | Linux just a big bump with GCC 5x | 08:12 |
| Romster | so many things just not going right. | 08:13 |
| xeirrr | Romster: cflags and cxxflags set to -O1 don't fix xmms2 | 08:13 |
| brian|lfs | did you rebuild gdk-pixbuf | 08:14 |
| brian|lfs | you know we should install the copycat crux iso to see what they did to fix stuff | 08:15 |
| Romster | xeirrr, really? | 08:16 |
| brian|lfs | cruxex | 08:16 |
| Romster | i never even looked into cruxex | 08:16 |
| xeirrr | Romster: yes, everytime it just fail on different step | 08:18 |
| Romster | tried with -J1 | 08:18 |
| Romster | -j1 | 08:18 |
| Romster | if it's a race on compile | 08:18 |
| Romster | stopping at different sports of the compile s\would suggest that the parallel Makefile is not set right to handle that many make jobs. | 08:19 |
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| xeirrr | Romster: how? I didn't use parallel compile, I didn't change anything in pkgmk.conf | 08:21 |
| Romster | did you ever set MAKEFLAGS ? | 08:21 |
| xeirrr | no | 08:21 |
| Romster | then you're probably on 1 make job then? | 08:22 |
| Romster | you don't se amke2 make3 make4 etc? | 08:22 |
| Romster | see make2* | 08:22 |
| xeirrr | yes | 08:22 |
| brian|lfs | well good night all | 08:22 |
| Romster | then what i suggested does not apply to you | 08:22 |
| Romster | i was gonna say adding -j1 to that make line. | 08:23 |
| Romster | g'night brian|lfs | 08:23 |
| brian|lfs | why would you not set any flags | 08:23 |
| Romster | beats me | 08:24 |
| brian|lfs | I didn't set them inn my docker because I didn't think I was going to start testingg in it | 08:25 |
| Romster | well if you are using my docker image you'll be using all you cores | 08:25 |
| Romster | export MAKEFLAGS="-j$(/usr/bin/getconf _NPROCESSORS_ONLN)" | 08:25 |
| brian|lfs | hhmm checking | 08:25 |
| brian|lfs | seemed ass slow for using all my cores | 08:26 |
| Romster | what port some are hard coded to -j1 | 08:27 |
| Romster | some just don't speed up in parallel much too | 08:27 |
| Romster | i'd check with htop | 08:28 |
| Romster | i gotta feed the dogs then i'll commit gstreamer 1.6.2 | 08:31 |
| xeirrr | xmms2 in our repo is too old, and maintainer rotwang left. what should i do？ | 08:32 |
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| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.2]: gstreamer: 1.6.1 -> 1.6.2 | 08:51 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.2]: gst-plugins-base: 1.6.1 -> 1.6.2 | 08:51 |
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| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.2]: gst-plugins-good: 1.6.1 -> 1.6.2 | 08:56 |
| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.2]: gst-plugins-bad: 1.6.1 -> 1.6.2 | 08:56 |
| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.2]: gst-plugins-ugly: 1.6.1 -> 1.6.2 | 08:56 |
| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.2]: gst-python: 1.6.1 -> 1.6.2 | 08:56 |
| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.2]: gst-libav: 1.6.1 -> 1.6.2 | 08:56 |
| xeirrr | Romster: can you update xmms2 | 09:02 |
| Romster | that's a rotwang port. not mine. | 09:03 |
| Romster | and is unmaintained | 09:04 |
| Romster | bump it to what version? | 09:05 |
| Romster | sourceforge is at 0.8 still | 09:07 |
| xeirrr | Romster: nah, ok. Arch uses 0.8+commits number | 09:07 |
| Romster | https://sourceforge.net/projects/xmms2/files/xmms2/0.8%20DrO_o/ | 09:08 |
| Romster | why hasn't xmms2 realsed a newer archive. and i see that. | 09:08 |
| Romster | http://git.xmms2.org/xmms2/xmms2-stable/ | 09:09 |
| Romster | 4 years old... | 09:10 |
| Romster | too much effort for a port i don't use sorry. if you want to pick up that port in contrib, you can apply too. | 09:10 |
| xeirrr | at least can you fix with gcc5? | 09:12 |
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| mahmutov | hi everbody | 09:58 |
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| frinnst | tired890: there is nothing wrong with crux 3.2 - what you see on irc is 99.99% user error sadly | 12:50 |
| mahmutov | 3.2 SUPER.. | 12:50 |
| tired890 | frinnst, got it. I kinda had that feeling! | 12:51 |
| tired890 | will be upgrading soon.. | 12:51 |
| tired890 | I mean clean-installing of course :) | 12:51 |
| frinnst | brian|lfs: fyi: crux flyspray is not a support forum | 12:51 |
| xeirrr | frinnst: Does xmms2 build for you on 3.2 ? | 12:53 |
| frinnst | I dont know, dont use it | 12:53 |
| frinnst | let me fire up a vm | 12:53 |
| xeirrr | ok | 12:56 |
| frinnst | xeirrr: i assume it fails for you? can you pastebin the errors perhaps? | 12:58 |
| xeirrr | frinnst: yes failed for me. | 12:59 |
| xeirrr | you compiled without problem? | 12:59 |
| frinnst | building in a clean vm, still installing the deps :-) | 12:59 |
| xeirrr | ok tell me your result later :) | 13:00 |
| frinnst | seems to build fine - but lots of footprint errors | 13:01 |
| frinnst | the port is orphaned too, so nobody is maintaining it :( | 13:02 |
| ryu0 | frinnst: aren't footprints of packages going to vary due to each building system having different packages installed? | 13:02 |
| xeirrr | frinnst: yes. rotwang left | 13:03 |
| mahmutov | are you using vm to clean build? | 13:03 |
| frinnst | ryu0: yes to some extent. but MISSING is an error, NEW is more of a warning | 13:03 |
| mahmutov | i am using docker?it produces same result? | 13:03 |
| ryu0 | ah. | 13:04 |
| frinnst | these missing files are due to the port not containing all the dependencies | 13:04 |
| frinnst | mahmutov: yes | 13:04 |
| mahmutov | which is speed? | 13:04 |
| mahmutov | for compiling? | 13:04 |
| frinnst | docker probably | 13:05 |
| mahmutov | good :) | 13:05 |
| mahmutov | if i maintain a port i put it my local port.can i pull request to gitweb.crux.nu? | 13:06 |
| mahmutov | i saw some problems with gnumeric so i maintained ports. | 13:06 |
| frinnst | you can offer patches, sure | 13:06 |
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| mahmutov | ok | 13:07 |
| frinnst | I dont see a gnumeric port though | 13:07 |
| frinnst | only in 3rd party repos | 13:07 |
| mahmutov | bdfy-falcony exists? | 13:08 |
| mahmutov | are there 3rd? | 13:08 |
| mahmutov | https://crux.nu/portdb/index.php?q=gnumeric&a=search-what is the difference contrib repo between 3rd repos | 13:09 |
| frinnst | "DISCLAIMER: the ports not belonging to the core, opt and xorg collections are provided by contributors; there is no guarantee or support by the CRUX team. " | 13:11 |
| deep42thought | Hi, has anyone successfully built sane in a fakeroot-environment? On my machine, it fails because it tries to modify /root/.texlive2015, which it is not allowed to (crux.eckner.net/sane.log) | 13:13 |
| deep42thought | I remember, I had this issue before. And I think my last "workaround" was to build as regular root :-/ | 13:14 |
| mahmutov | hey frinst can i have a port account in crux.nu? | 13:14 |
| mahmutov | e.g others bdfy,falcony... | 13:15 |
| mahmutov | i want to put my ports to crux.nu | 13:15 |
| deep42thought | mahmutov: Which contributer has his ports on crux.nu? | 13:16 |
| mahmutov | i mean if a man search ports he will show my ports in crux.nu | 13:17 |
| mahmutov | like you | 13:17 |
| mahmutov | not directlly in crux.nu | 13:18 |
| mahmutov | i mean referencing.... | 13:18 |
| mahmutov | can it be? | 13:18 |
| deep42thought | have a look there: https://crux.nu/portdb/?a=register | 13:18 |
| frinnst | mahmutov: https://crux.nu/portdb/index.php?a=register | 13:18 |
| mahmutov | oh thanks :) | 13:19 |
| mahmutov | i think i will collect my ports in a github, | 13:20 |
| mahmutov | so i will send you portgithub page | 13:21 |
| xeirrr | frinnst: xmms randomly failed on different steps everytime i built it. | 13:27 |
| xeirrr | xmms2 | 13:27 |
| xeirrr | the log is so long | 13:27 |
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| frinnst | xeirrr: strange. if its random you could try with -j1 in your makeflags (easiest to modify the port - make -j1" | 14:13 |
| frinnst | ) | 14:13 |
| xeirrr | frinnst: i did try ./waf build -j1 | 14:16 |
| xeirrr | but failed | 14:17 |
| xeirrr | Now i am changing export CFLAGS=" -O1 -Wno-all -w" | 14:19 |
| xeirrr | if this faills, i'll gave up | 14:20 |
| xeirrr | I gave up | 14:22 |
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| mahmutov | hey guys i want to recompile gcc version 5.3.should i update all versions of gcc depends.(e.g libmpc) | 15:05 |
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| myztic | is crux using systemd? | 15:07 |
| myztic | sorry, my mistake | 15:07 |
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| mahmutov | hey guys how can i reset docker compilitaion enviroment. | 16:06 |
| mahmutov | i want to back at start. | 16:06 |
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| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.2]: st: removed conflicting terminfo files, FS#1234 | 18:32 |
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| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.2]: mpv: updated to 0.10.0 | 18:42 |
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| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.2]: detox: dropped orphaned port | 18:52 |
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| mahmutob | hi guys | 18:58 |
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| frinnst | http://www.ford.com/server-status/ | 19:09 |
| frinnst | awesome | 19:09 |
| tilman | "mpv: updated to 0.10.0" ; 0.14.0 was just released | 19:12 |
| tilman | not sure why you'd go to 0.10.0 now | 19:12 |
| tilman | ._o | 19:13 |
| frinnst | screw you, someone gave me a patch for 0.10. it was better than the version that was in contrib! :) | 19:13 |
| tilman | and i hope the answer isn't in the commit message | 19:13 |
| tilman | http://git.srsfckn.biz/mpv/log/?qt=range&q=v0.13.0..v0.14.0 | 19:13 |
| frinnst | btw you still have commit access you lazy bastard | 19:13 |
| tilman | nice fucking domain name | 19:13 |
| frinnst | haha | 19:13 |
| tilman | i need someone who knows about electronics | 19:13 |
| tilman | rmull: you around? | 19:13 |
| rmull | tilman: Hello | 19:18 |
| tilman | hey | 19:19 |
| tilman | do i want a stripboard with or without a layer of copper? | 19:19 |
| tilman | (i'm dumb ;p) | 19:19 |
| rmull | A stripboard like one of those prototyping perf boards? | 19:22 |
| tilman | i think so | 19:23 |
| rmull | I don't think you want a layer of copper... how would that even work? All the holes would be connected | 19:23 |
| tilman | the ones where you explicitly make the contacts you want, not the ones where you scratch off stuff to disconnect parts | 19:23 |
| rmull | Yeah, those are usually just like plated holes, and you run jumpers to make connections | 19:24 |
| rmull | Some have buses that you can cut with an xacto knife | 19:25 |
| rmull | Can you link me to what you're looking at? | 19:25 |
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| tilman | it's a german site and the pictures suck | 19:25 |
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| tilman | afaict the copper doesn't connect the holes, it may just be to get a better soldering joint | 19:26 |
| rmull | Yes, that's usually the case. The hole is plated and there is an annular ring of copper around each hole | 19:26 |
| rmull | But "layer" usually refers to one of the layers of a PCB, so a layer of copper makes me think of a layer on which there was a copper pour - a large area of copper either on an internal layer (like in a 4-layer board) or on an external layer (for a 2-layer board) | 19:28 |
| rmull | In either case, it will make prototyping difficult, so I don't think it makes sense | 19:28 |
| tilman | yeah, i _think_ i worded that poorly | 19:28 |
| tilman | humhum | 19:29 |
| jaeger | wouldn't a breadboard be better for testing/prototyping? better than buying/printing PCBs until you have something made | 19:29 |
| jaeger | I'm no expert, though, could be wrong | 19:29 |
| rmull | It's different | 19:29 |
| jaeger | I know it's different but isn't the point of it to be easy to design? | 19:30 |
| rmull | A breadboard is just for temporary stuff. The perfboard is much more secure and better when trying to prototype a system that you plan on moving around | 19:30 |
| tilman | i'm just about to leave breadboard land | 19:30 |
| jaeger | once you have your design you can put it on a real PCB | 19:30 |
| jaeger | Ah, ok | 19:30 |
| rmull | And you can cut perfboard into the shape that works best for you | 19:30 |
| tilman | i think a proper pcb is overkill for me/what i might do | 19:30 |
| tilman | Perfboard differs from stripboard in that each pad on perfboard is isolated. Stripboard is made with rows of copper conductors that form default connections, which are broken into isolated segments as required by scraping through the copper. | 19:31 |
| rmull | yeah | 19:31 |
| tilman | so i want a perfboard that has the little copper rings | 19:31 |
| rmull | those are the buses I mentioned | 19:31 |
| tilman | yeah | 19:31 |
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| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.2]: mpv: updated to 0.14.0 | 19:33 |
| rmull | You can find hybrid boards with sections of just holes and sections of buses, which are what I like | 19:34 |
| rmull | Because then you can have convenient power rails | 19:34 |
| mahmutob | anybody use docker to compiling? | 19:34 |
| mahmutob | i am compiling a package after how can i back starting position of docker | 19:35 |
| tilman | i think i'll go for the basic perfboard for now and maybe upgrade to something else when i decide i need something better ;p | 19:35 |
| tilman | thanks | 19:35 |
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| rmull | tilman: What are you making? | 19:50 |
| tilman | i built a crappy alarm that plays vorbis files off an sd card using a cortex m3 | 19:52 |
| tilman | yes, it was a deliberate choice :] | 19:52 |
| frinnst | can you not build one of these? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j02HmFPpYds&feature=youtu.be&t=142 | 19:56 |
| frinnst | id pay good money for it | 19:56 |
| tilman | in that url, is the value of t in seconds? | 19:57 |
| frinnst | yeah, think so | 19:57 |
| tilman | silly question, what else. the video is only 7 minutes :/ | 19:57 |
| tilman | holy crap | 19:58 |
| tilman | the stuff that mickey pulls in that trailer are so dangerous | 19:58 |
| tilman | don't try this at home! | 19:58 |
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| tilman | frinnst: 5:00 | 20:02 |
| frinnst | :) | 20:03 |
| mahmutob | anybody uses crux docker? | 20:24 |
| jaeger | I do not | 20:26 |
| mahmutob | where are you compiling and testing your packages? | 20:27 |
| jaeger | VM, usually | 20:28 |
| mahmutob | qemu? | 20:28 |
| jaeger | vmware, virtualbox, qemu | 20:28 |
| mahmutob | are you restarting each packages to reset enviroment | 20:29 |
| mahmutob | ? | 20:29 |
| jaeger | restarting packages? | 20:29 |
| tilman | restarting the VM before every new build | 20:29 |
| jaeger | snapshots for that | 20:29 |
| jaeger | test a build, revert the snapshot. etc. | 20:30 |
| mahmutob | how can you fetch or compiled packages from vm? | 20:30 |
| jaeger | just like you would from any other machine | 20:31 |
| mahmutob | how do you do sharing? | 20:31 |
| retard | .. sharing? | 20:32 |
| rmull | napster | 20:32 |
| mahmutob | if we created a package in qemu how can i fetch from vm to my host | 20:32 |
| tilman | retard: share files between the vm and host i assume | 20:32 |
| retard | /etc/exports | 20:33 |
| tilman | you could ssh from the vm to the host if you're brave | 20:33 |
| tilman | (that even works with the most basic networking provided by qemu) | 20:33 |
| retard | feeling brave? hmm? | 20:33 |
| mahmutob | can you share a example exports file.? | 20:34 |
| retard | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8LBpMuSTrQ | 20:34 |
| retard | you get one for free with nfs-utils | 20:35 |
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| mahmutob | so did you set up a nfs server_ | 20:37 |
| retard | that is what /etc/exports is generally for, yes | 20:38 |
| retard | you could also rsync, scp, sshfs | 20:38 |
| retard | or just dd files into netcat | 20:39 |
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| frinnst | joy, critical vuln in bind | 21:20 |
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| mahmutob | hey devs | 22:32 |
| mahmutob | a question? | 22:32 |
| mahmutob | how are you making new crux version from lfs? | 22:33 |
| mahmutob | e.g new gcc version updates 5.4 so how are you making base crux with 5.4 | 22:35 |
| Workster | mahmutov> hey guys how can i reset docker compilitaion enviroment. <- either install romster/pkg-clean and run that or, exit the docker image and docker rm <name> of the image and start again. | 22:36 |
| mahmutob | oh workster much thanks i looking that :) because i am using docker my machines | 22:39 |
| mahmutob | i connected my dockers to my central server so packages collecting on the server... | 22:39 |
| mahmutob | i will use pkg-clean so my dockers wont stop.. | 22:40 |
| mahmutob | what about making new crux version from lfs? | 22:42 |
| mahmutob | e.g new gcc version updates 5.4 so how can we making base crux with 5.4 | 22:43 |
| john_cephalopoda | mahmutob: You can try editing /usr/ports/core/gcc/Pkgfile - but that's not trivial. | 22:45 |
| john_cephalopoda | Also, what do you need gcc 5.4 for? | 22:45 |
| john_cephalopoda | Does some program not compile with 5.2? | 22:46 |
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| mahmutob | no i am asking for making updated distro | 22:51 |
| mahmutob | so we can produce updated distro from updated sources | 22:53 |
| teK____ | check https://crux.ninja/ | 22:54 |
| mahmutob | or it isnt necessary for updated distro. | 22:54 |
| mahmutob | i see in lfs pass1 pass2 like... | 22:54 |
| mahmutob | in crux that things exists? | 22:54 |
| mahmutob | e.g they produce 5.3gcc after they are building base with 5.3gcc | 22:56 |
| mahmutob | i am asking to understand.what are diffrences building lfs and building crux? | 22:57 |
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| john_cephalopoda | mahmutob: LFS (Linux From Scratch) is a guide for making your own Linux distribution. | 23:06 |
| john_cephalopoda | It isn't really something that you just use but something you start from to make your own things. | 23:06 |
| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.2]: [notify] bind: updated to 9.9.8-P2. | 23:07 |
| teK____ | thanks again | 23:07 |
| john_cephalopoda | teK____: What's crux.ninja for? | 23:07 |
| teK____ | updates ISOs? | 23:08 |
| teK____ | from the same guy who rolled the official 3.2, btw | 23:08 |
| teK____ | (that is, jaeger) | 23:08 |
| john_cephalopoda | Yeah, jaeger is listed in the dev section of crux.nu :P | 23:08 |
| teK____ | prominently ;) | 23:10 |
| mahmutob | so crux gitweb has iso.git. | 23:11 |
| mahmutob | this is a method to build crux from stratch? | 23:11 |
| teK____ | it (in)directly depends on a current checkout of {core,opt,xorg} | 23:11 |
| teK____ | yes | 23:11 |
| frinnst | why would you want to? | 23:11 |
| frinnst | that would build you the install image | 23:11 |
| jaeger | john_cephalopoda: crux.ninja is just a landing place for my junk to make it easier to find (like it says) | 23:12 |
| mahmutob | https://crux.nu/gitweb/?p=system/iso.git;a=tree | 23:12 |
| john_cephalopoda | Hmm, the Logos, Artwork and CD Cover sections of the crux site could be a bit more ordered. | 23:12 |
| frinnst | mahmutob: you probably want to rebuild your installed system. you can do that with "prt-get -fr update $(prt-get listinst)" | 23:12 |
| mahmutob | i am looking codes to make a updated my crux | 23:13 |
| john_cephalopoda | It's just a folder currently, in which everything is. | 23:13 |
| teK____ | that's us, all rough rugged and raw ; | 23:13 |
| teK____ | > | 23:13 |
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| john_cephalopoda | It would be nice to have thumbnails and stuff, also the resolution is a bit... outdated :P | 23:14 |
| teK____ | we are very open to newly created wiki pages | 23:15 |
| john_cephalopoda | 1600x1200 on the best one. | 23:16 |
| mahmutob | also why crux devs arent producing live isos such as xfce4_crux mate_crux | 23:16 |
| teK____ | because it's (even more) work. Feel free to contribute | 23:17 |
| mahmutob | i created my live crux two days ago | 23:18 |
| mahmutob | i didnt see a live crux after cruxex :) | 23:18 |
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| teK____ | you are welcome to post a link to our ML | 23:18 |
| teK____ | if people like it, I can offer to host it at my master mirror | 23:18 |
| jaeger | I don't see a point to it, myself, but anyone's free to make their own | 23:19 |
| john_cephalopoda | The official crux iso is more or less a live crux ;) | 23:20 |
| mahmutob | yeb i created a code automatic produces live iso from my installed system | 23:20 |
| mahmutob | i used dracut because it is very modular initramfs | 23:21 |
| mahmutob | if i want transfer my crux to other comp. i can use my live iso ;) | 23:22 |
| john_cephalopoda | Dracut produces large initramfs. | 23:23 |
| john_cephalopoda | You can make much smaller ones with other tools that use busybox instead of your own system. | 23:23 |
| mahmutob | but dracut has useful modules | 23:24 |
| mahmutob | it is not problem large initramfs my inintramfs is 10mb | 23:25 |
| mahmutob | also in official crux iso you cant install new packages to mounted rootfs | 23:27 |
| mahmutob | my live iso has 16gb free space | 23:28 |
| mahmutob | so you can install-build programs on it.. | 23:29 |
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| mahmutob | anyway i will put code to my github so you can try.. | 23:29 |
| mahmutob | we can discuss on it.benefits,bugs.. | 23:30 |
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| mahmutob | also i want to make a crux iso for diskless systems | 23:38 |
| frinnst | diskless? | 23:39 |
| frinnst | what, ramdisk? | 23:39 |
| mahmutob | no it reboots from a server | 23:40 |
| mahmutob | Linux clients booted through PXE/NFSROOT | 23:41 |
| frinnst | ah | 23:41 |
| mahmutob | like that | 23:41 |
| mahmutob | Linux clients booted through PXE/NFSROOT | 23:41 |
| mahmutob | sorry | 23:41 |
| mahmutob | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sdsic3d8XN8 | 23:41 |
| mahmutob | i know thinstation based crux. | 23:42 |
| mahmutob | http://thinstation.github.io/thinstation/ | 23:43 |
| mahmutob | but he made some modificitions off course | 23:44 |
| mahmutob | crux is like ancestor of many things :) isnt it? | 23:45 |
| mahmutob | i love crux for this reason. | 23:46 |
| john_cephalopoda | Somebody posted a new version of revdep yesterday, that is faster and has other improvements. Anybody got the link? | 23:52 |
| cruxbot | [core.git/3.2]: gcc: updated to 5.3.0 | 23:55 |
| john_cephalopoda | vlc footprint mismatch. | 23:56 |
| mahmutob | [core.git/3.2]: gcc: updated to 5.3.0 it is a good news :) | 23:56 |
| john_cephalopoda | A lot of stuff "missing", seems that a few directory locations moved. | 23:56 |
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