IRC Logs for #crux Sunday, 2016-01-03

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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: smpeg: 0.4.4 -> 0.4.501:37
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Romsterj_v, romster/pkg-clean is updated08:03
Romsterports -u romster08:05
Romsterdarn i forgot to add a file08:06
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xikuukyI seriously need help now08:36
xikuukyI have no sound08:36
xikuukyCan't install webkit08:36
xikuukyand still can't connect to the internet08:36
xikuuky(without ethernet. I need wifi).08:36
xikuukyCan someone please help me08:38
xikuukyI have been asking for help for many days08:38
Romstermost are away on there holidays08:52
Romsteras you could imagine08:52
Romsterare you in the audio group? lspci -k08:52
Romstermodules loaded08:53
Romsteris the mixer not muted or turned off 0%08:53
Romsterthere are 3 flavours of webkit08:53
Romsterwebkitgtk webkit-gtk2 and webkit-gtk3 which are you having problems with and i have precompiled packages of those at well i should have, i'll need to build and upload.08:55
xikuukysnd stuff is loaded08:56
xikuukyCan't get alsa-utils to build08:56
xikuukyCan't get alsa-plugins to build08:56
Romsterprt-get depinst linux-firmware if you haven't already as most wifi cards need firmware.08:57
xikuukyAll of the webkits08:57
Romsterand you'll need wpa_supplicant08:57
xikuukyI have it08:57
xikuukyI have no alsamixer command... since alsa-utils won't build.08:57
Romstertesting that package08:59
xikuukyWhile you're doing that I need to restart.09:00
Romstervery few thins need a restart09:00
Romster=======> Building '/var/ports/packages/alsa-utils#1.1.0-2.pkg.tar.xz' succeeded.09:00
Romsterprt-get: installing alsa-utils 1.1.0-209:00
Romsterbuilds fine on crux 3.209:01
Romsteryou did do prt-get depinst alsa-utils ?09:01
Romsterand what error did you get?09:01
xikuukyIt says some files are missing at the end, build fail.09:02
Romsteri'll need to know exactly09:02
Romsterwgetpaste is in contrib or use other means09:02
Romsteryu can enable logs in /etc/prt-get.conf that show up in /var/log/pkgbuild/09:03
xikuukyOkay, then I have to restart.09:03
xikuukyI'll be back.09:03
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xikuukyRomster: I'm back09:14
xikuukyI'm attempting to install and I'll show you the error09:15
xikuuky=======> ERROR: Footprint mismatch found:09:15
xikuukyMISSING   -rwxr-xr-x      root/root       usr/bin/alsatplg09:15
xikuuky=======> ERROR: Building '/usr/ports/opt/alsa-utils/alsa-utils#1.1.0-2.pkg.tar.gz' failed.09:15
xikuukyprt-get: error while install09:15
xikuuky-- Packages where install failed09:15
xikuuky=======> ERROR: Footprint mismatch found:09:15
xikuukyNEW       -rwxr-xr-x      root/root       usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_a52.la09:15
xikuukyNEW       -rwxr-xr-x      root/root       usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_a52.so09:15
xikuukyNEW       -rwxr-xr-x      root/root       usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_speex.la09:15
xikuukyNEW       -rwxr-xr-x      root/root       usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_speex.so09:15
xikuukyNEW       -rwxr-xr-x      root/root       usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_rate_lavcrate.la09:15
xikuukyNEW       -rwxr-xr-x      root/root       usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_rate_lavcrate.so09:15
xikuukyNEW       lrwxrwxrwx      root/root       usr/lib/alsa-lib/ -> libasound_module_rate_lavcrate.so09:15
xikuukyNEW       lrwxrwxrwx      root/root       usr/lib/alsa-lib/ -> libasound_module_rate_lavcrate.so09:16
xikuukyNEW       lrwxrwxrwx      root/root       usr/lib/alsa-lib/ -> libasound_module_rate_lavcrate.so09:16
xikuukyNEW       lrwxrwxrwx      root/root       usr/lib/alsa-lib/ -> libasound_module_rate_lavcrate.so09:16
xikuuky=======> ERROR: Building '/usr/ports/opt/alsa-plugins/alsa-plugins#1.1.0-1.pkg.tar.gz' failed.09:16
xikuukyprt-get: error while install09:16
xikuuky-- Packages where install failed09:16
Romstera pastebin service would be preferable.09:16
xikuukyI have more errors09:16
xikuukyI'll use wgetpaste09:16
Romsteryou can set09:17
Romsterin /etc/pkgmk.conf09:17
Romsteralsa-plugins is fine to install09:17
Romsternot sure why you are missing /usr/bin/alsatplg09:18
Romsteris your kernel .config setup for your sound card? is alsa support enabled?09:18
Romsterwget ; pkgadd alsa-utils#1.1.0-2.pkg.tar.xz09:24
Romsterprt-get update -uf alsa-plugins09:25
Romsternot sure why your missing that file but can get around that for the moment.09:25
Romsteri have never hit that issue09:25
xikuukyNow my ethernet stopped working.09:27
xikuukyI'm sure CRUX is a fine distro but I think I'm gonna find another.09:27
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Romsterhave you edited /etc/rc.d/net09:27
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Romsteroops wrong channel10:37
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Wildefyranother user bites the dust!12:35
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tired890I reckon if we polish up the wikis the distro will become much more accessible, unless its intentionally kept that way as a filter ;)12:45
frinnstfeel free12:47
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: ruby: update to 2.3.016:23
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: ruby-doc: update to 2.3.016:23
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: ncurses-ruby: update for ruby 2.3.016:23
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: mysql-ruby: dropped, use gem to install16:23
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: sqlite3-ruby: dropped, use gem to install16:23
john_cephalopodaIs there a repo for win32/64 cross compiler packages?16:24
cruxbot[xorg.git/3.2]: libdrm: update to 2.4.6616:24
frinnstnot that I know of16:24
john_cephalopodaIt would be pretty handy for game development.16:25
cruxbot[core.git/3.2]: man-pages: update to 4.0416:26
frinnstyou have mingw with gcc and that stuff16:26
john_cephalopodaThat's why it would be nice to have packages for that.16:28
frinnstmy memory isnt what it used to be i guess16:29
john_cephalopodaOh, is there?16:29
john_cephalopodaNo, find / | grep mingw doesn't give me any proper results.16:31
frinnstI meant that i thought i remembered mingw in some repo on the portdb16:31
john_cephalopodaAh. I searched for "mingw" and "win" but nothing turned up.16:33
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nebghello everyone... where is the guide to create ports ?17:41
t0b1nuxnebg: creating ports i sso easy you don't need a guide17:42
t0b1nuxthat's why crux is so awesome17:42
nebgt0b1nux, ok how do i do then ?17:44
nebganother thing... how can i create an empty environment ?17:44
tilmanactually the handbook has a section about how to create ports17:44
t0b1nuxlook at some existing one17:44
j_vthere is some good stuff in the handbook about creating ports
nebgi mean... if now i have a complete installed system... and have many applications...17:44
nebghow can i create a enmpty (a very basic system) so that17:45
nebg i know all the dependencies ?17:45
t0b1nuxnebg: maybe a container ?17:45
t0b1nuxLXC for example17:45
nebgt0b1nux, sorry i don't know what is that17:45
t0b1nuxthe goal is to run something like docker but with more advanced controls (on networking for example)17:47
nebgt0b1nux, so most people on crux use those to create packages ?17:47
nebgi don't know docker either17:47
nebgis that something to run multiple webapps ?17:47
t0b1nuxnebg: not me personnaly17:47
t0b1nuxnebg: not only17:47
nebgt0b1nux, so what do you use ?17:47
t0b1nuxthe idea is that VMs introduce overhead17:47
nebgt0b1nux, so what do you use ?17:48
t0b1nuxand you shouldn't have 15 linux kernls running alongside if one is enought17:48
t0b1nuxnebg: nothing17:48
t0b1nuxI just write on my plain environnement17:48
t0b1nuxI know it's bad for security but...17:48
t0b1nuxOne day, i will try to use container, but creating proper environnement take time and bandwidth, so ....17:49
nebgt0b1nux, so you have an additional system which is a plain environment ?17:50
nebgor what ?17:50
t0b1nuxI use muy own computer17:51
t0b1nuxfrom which I'm talking to you now17:51
nebgt0b1nux, ok but how do you know if a port used some dependencies ... that you already have installed ?17:51
t0b1nuxI don't (or I guess, but yeah, it's not perfect, I'm just very lazy)17:52
t0b1nuxHere, for example, I'm compilse mesa3d from git (in a port of course)17:52
t0b1nuxIf something break, I add the dependency or create a new package and try again17:53
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t0b1nuxmaybe it's inefficient17:53
t0b1nuxIf you really want to do things the good way, use a container or a VM17:54
t0b1nuxsomething like vagrant might be fine17:54
t0b1nuxuse chroot if you don't care of security otherwise17:55
tilmannebg: you can use ldd to figure out runtime dependencies17:56
nebgtilman, ok but from its output i get plenty libs...17:57
nebgdon't know all the packages to install for those libs...17:58
nebghow do you do ?17:58
tilmancheck the wiki for saveenv17:58
t0b1nuxnebg: if you do it often, you will recognise the libs involved17:59
nebgtilman, sorry can't find anything under that name17:59
nebgtilman, can you linke it to me ?18:00
nebg ican't find sorry18:00
tilmanmmh, i can't find it either18:01
tilmanRomster: can you tell nebg about that safeenv stuff?18:01
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dbrookeI've been using a docker image which Romster made to test ports in a clean environment18:37
dbrookehe seems to have an updated one at
dbrookeother than having to rebuild my kernel to support docker's requirements (cgroups etc.) it was quite straightforward to set up18:40
cruxbot[core.git/3.2]: pciutils: updated to 3.4.118:56
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john_cephalopoda> Mesa 11.1.0 is released. This is a new development release. See the release notes for more information about the release.20:42
frinnstThis is a new *development* release21:01
john_cephalopodaAh, so "development release" means "an unstable build for developers" and not "the release branch that is going further in development".21:03
john_cephalopodaThe other ones were called "bug fix", so I was a bit confused.21:03
tilmanjohn_cephalopoda: did you see my glorious link?21:29
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john_cephalopodatilman: Yep, I saw it, didn't download yet though.21:46
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