IRC Logs for #crux Monday, 2016-02-15

cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.2]: fix footprints00:31
Worksterthe source for xorg-libpixman{,-32} are identical00:34
Worksterfreedesktop has messed up there permissions perhaps00:43
Worksterit worked when i downloaded it00:44
Workster both primary sites are 403 on http00:46
Workstermirrored on anyways00:47
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brian|lfswow is just all messed up04:30
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brian|lfsWhat do you all use for webhosting?06:14
nweand php-fpm06:15
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brian|lfsI'll ooked that up seems like everyone is expensive now06:27
brian|lfsis that a hosting comapny?06:28
tired890no thats server software, I assumed you were asking about a server to run on your box to host stuff06:36
tired890ISPs its a hit and miss, some good some bad, YMMV. Look up reviews I guess06:37
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brian|lfsI just signed up for dreamhost06:45
brian|lfsI had them years ago06:45
brian|lfsit was kind of oa toss up host myown stuff or pay for hosting06:45
brian|lfsI would have to switch to FIOS business which is liek 100 more a month and thats not even including TV06:45
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: cups-filters: update to 1.8.210:37
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: hpcups: update to 3.16.210:37
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: mpg123: update to 1.23.110:37
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: nano: update to 2.5.210:37
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: [notify] libgcrypt: update to 1.6.510:45
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onoderaRomster / Workster : can you please update x265 from 1.7 to 1.9?13:10
onoderaand x264, I'm not exactly sure how their versioning works, but the one crux uses is almost 3 years old now13:12
Wildefyris that why I've been getting the ffmpeg error13:23
Wildefyrwas actually just gonna look at that13:23
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john_cephalopodaIt would probably a good idea to adapt qt5 a bit to the archlinux one. Because the archlinux one is actually working. Of course the install locations have to be changed a little bit. But not much, only "qt5" instead of "qt" in some places.14:35
NecrosporusIs it hard to make CRUX use just /lib /usr/lib without 64 suffix?14:36
NecrosporusAnd is it ok to remove lib32 dirs?14:36
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xeirrranyone work as a linux SA in a company here?14:39
NecrosporusOK, I have removed /lib3214:39
NecrosporusI'm not sure about /usr/lib3214:40
NecrosporusIt has some gcc stuff14:40
ryu0Necrosporus: why would you want to?14:45
Necrosporusbecause who needs 32 bits in 2016?14:47
NecrosporusAnd if someone does why there is no lib16 ?14:48
NecrosporusOr even lib814:48
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ryu0... because linux never really had any 16 bit programs to deal with?14:53
ryu0there's software some people want to use on Linux that is for one reason or another 32 bit only.14:54
ryu0it's not just proprietary stuff.14:54
ryu0that's why multilib is still a thing.14:55
ryu0just because you have no use for it doesn't make it useless. anyway.14:56
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tired890hey Necrosporus15:31
tired890don't fuss over those tiny things buddy ;)15:31
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NecrosporusFor now I removed /lib32, I guess, it won't break anything?15:33
Necrosporusryu0, btw, Slackware uses just /*/lib for multilib15:34
tired890thats distro specific15:35
tired890arch uses /usr/lib3215:35
tired890so does debian15:35
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Wildefyranyone know how to create a loopback device that captures input from hw:0,0 which is my audio out. Got snd-aloop loaded, but need the asound.conf not to interfere with what I already have:
Wildefyror asoundrc I should say15:47
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brian|lfswow love my new domain cruxbrianlfs.org16:52
brian|lfsits such a beautiful website16:52
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john_cephalopodaI should probably rent a server :þ16:55
john_cephalopodaBut it's a PITA to do stuff like that in Germany. The jurisdiction is complicated and you have to put your name and address on your website - which is pretty extreme.16:56
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brian|lfsyou have to put it here on the registration16:56
brian|lfswhy can't the hosting providers address be there16:56
john_cephalopodaDon't ask me...16:58
john_cephalopodaYou don't have to put it on your site always, only when you host it "geschäftsmäßig", which has no definition anywhere.16:59
john_cephalopodaWhich means "Always".16:59
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brian|lfslol john_cephalopoda17:07
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tired890john_cephalopoda, if you host it outside germany do you have to do stuff like that too?17:13
john_cephalopodaI don't think so, at least not in such extent.17:15
john_cephalopodaSeems actually to be EU-wide through 2000/31/EG17:16
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NecrosporusWhat happens if you buy a server with cryptocurrency and never write where you live?17:27
NecrosporusAnd access the server only via tor17:27
NecrosporusThen use it to host a CRUX mirror or somthingh17:28
brian|lfsso I vbought clams oysters and muscles was suppose to go to the algerists to challange them but he is closed due to it snowing17:30
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brian|lfsso what to do cook the stuff and eat it Russian roulette17:36
brian|lfsAlgeorist ooffice closed due to snow so cook the stuff and see what hapens lol17:36
john_cephalopodaNecrosporus: I don't know where I'd get something like that.17:42
john_cephalopodaI think, in europe you're required to leave your address and real name when buying a server hosting place.17:43
brian|lfsare you saying you have to put it right on your page or you mean with the register17:43
john_cephalopodaRight in the page.17:44
brian|lfsok jsut double checking17:44
brian|lfsjust make it the same as the background17:44
brian|lfssame color17:44
john_cephalopodaYou always need something like that:
brian|lfsthats lovely then ISIS can come find you17:45
john_cephalopodaOr that
john_cephalopodaEven blogs by activists:
Necrosporusjohn_cephalopoda, but do you have to comply with that law if your server is hosted outside of germany?17:48
john_cephalopodaWhen you host a .de domain or the one responsible for the content on that site, you need one.17:51
john_cephalopodaIt's totally crazy.17:52
tilmanbrian|lfs: i love that you think the terrorists are the problem about that <317:55
john_cephalopodaIt's kinda funny how you can go on tumblr and post stuff - completely anonymously. But when you got your own site, you suddenly have to put up your _address_17:57
brian|lfsya I agree17:57
john_cephalopodaJust imagine, Snowden would move to Germany and open a blog...17:57
tilmani doubt it would change things much17:58
john_cephalopodaI guess, I'll find somebody in a foreign country without that legislation and let them set up a site for me ;þ17:58
john_cephalopodaOr I just move away.17:58
john_cephalopodaOr I found a company, so I don't have to add my home address...17:58
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tilmanare you german john_cephalopoda?17:59
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tilmanalways took you for a native speaker18:00
john_cephalopodaHeh, thanks :)18:00
brian|lfswow these oysters don't want to pop18:01
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cruxbot[core.git/3.2]: ed: updated to 1.1319:04
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groovy2shoeswoo! ed!19:59
frinnstexciting times20:07
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rmullI think crux needs a GNU units port21:51
groovy2shoeswrite one!21:52
rmullI will21:54
z3brawhat's that?21:56
z3braconverting Mib to Kib and such?21:57
rmullYeah, command line unit-to-unit calculator21:58
z3braI wrote one :D21:58
rmullOh, no, this one is much more complete21:59
z3braoh, I see21:59
z3brawell, I could have guessed by the name21:59
rmullyeah yeah21:59
z3brastill, my tiny human binary came handy a couple of time already21:59
z3brafree -m22:00
z3bra(few implements the -h)22:00
rmullLooks like a good simple tool for human-readable factorization, but the gnu units is for converting between units of things (like degrees C/F for example)22:01
z3braI get it now22:01
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rmullIt understands just about any unit that has ever been conceived of22:02
rmullperhaps excessively so...22:02
Romsterf to c and back again22:14
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tired890Romster !22:18
tired890good to see you back buddy22:18
tired890channel not the same without the rom/work-sters22:19
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frinnstrmull: man numfmt22:34
frinnstobviously its limited to si and iec etc22:36
rmullfrinnst: This looks like a replacement for z3bra's 'human' but not for gnu units22:36
rmullBut I didn't know about it previously, so good tip22:37
tired890I used to use a feature in the router to send WoL packets to wake a machine up22:37
tired890I found out about a program called etherwake to do the same from basically any device (even from WAN side)22:37
tired890anyone uses/used this?22:37
frinnsti think i used WoL once in the 90's22:38
tired890now always on? :)22:38
frinnstiirc ethtool can do wol22:39
tired890cool its in ports22:39
frinnstits aliiiiive
frinnst33 days, 6hrs and 7 minutes22:52
tired890sound wise, nothing beats up the best engine benz made: the M100:
tired890ACTION ducks22:55
tired890if they make a petrol substitute that runs on older engines and is clean/cheap those engines would skyrocket in value.. one day maybe!22:56
frinnst nothing beats a v12 tho22:56
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tierd891look at her rise:
tierd891and to think this is 60s/70s technology.. back when the company was run by engineers perhaps23:00
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tired890sshfs is superior to nfs! dont know why I havent used it before23:24
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