IRC Logs for #crux Tuesday, 2016-04-26

nebghello everyone... is it possible to install gnome on crux ?00:17
tired890gnome has systemd deps..00:28
nebgtired890, ok and then ?00:47
tired890I think there's a mate repo?00:51
tired890but if you want to use the current gnome.. not sure crux is ideal for that..00:51
brian|lfsjust use gnome 2x lol01:11
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vsteveinteresting discovery, two brand new crux 3.2 installs, did ports -u followed by prt-get sysup, on both systems everything worked except for openssh and gst-plugins-base03:18
vsteveI have no idea what gst-plugins-base is, but I think openssh is pretty important03:19
brian|lfsare you a new linux user vsteve03:32
vstevenot new...just really inconsistently experienced03:32
brian|lfsapperantly open ssh is a secure protocl for connecting to other hosts03:33
vstevewell, that I knew03:33
vstevethe package just won't update is all03:33
vstevebut it looks like maybe the source mirror is down03:34
brian|lfsdid you enable contrb and compat-3203:34
brian|lfsoh ok nevermind03:34
vsteveoh, I didn't realize I needed to enable those, but literally everything else updated except for those two things03:35
vsteveI'd think if I'm updating a whole system, other things must be in contrib or compat-3203:35
vstevegst-plugins-base is for something called gstreamer...which i've never used (knowingly) a day in my life, so I'm less worried about that one03:37
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tired890vsteve, after updating run revdep04:05
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brian|lfshey vsteve your 2 prots upddate your having issues with05:37
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: fuse: update to 2.9.608:16
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: dar: update to 2.5.408:16
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: scite: update to 3.6.508:16
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dxlr8rdon't try this at home. update to 3.2, but forget to update the files in /usr/ports10:06
dxlr8rthat was fun10:06
dxlr8rone by one my system fell apart :P10:06
dxlr8rreverting to 3.110:06
dxlr8rhehe, so I had to update again and now it woks10:07
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dxlr8rworks, I hope10:07
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dxlr8rgnome works in FreeBSD etc. so it's possible without systemd10:07
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nebghello everyone is it possible to install systemd on crux ?15:01
dxlr8reverything is possible15:02
john_cephalopodanebg: Crux uses init scripts. Systemd isn't supported, if you need it you have to figure out how to compile and install it yourself and replace the initscripts with it.15:02
dxlr8rI haven't tried, but if you want Crux with systemd I would try Arch Linux15:02
john_cephalopodaI wouldn't say it like that.15:03
john_cephalopodaCrux and archlinux are very different distros. If you want a binary distro with systemd, get archlinux.15:03
john_cephalopodaI don't know of a source-based distro that uses systemd but I'm sure there is one.15:04
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: ruby: update to 2.3.115:04
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: ruby-doc: update to 2.3.115:04
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dxlr8rarch has source too15:05
nebgwhat about gentoo?15:14
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tuduromhttps://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd15:24
tuduromyes you can on gentoo15:24
VsteveHas anyone tried to compile the latest version of GCC with itself, in the hopes of producing faster compiles?15:25
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VsteveI was watching my system update and compile GCC 5.3.0 and it looked like it started over a few times, I wondered if this was why15:31
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john_cephalopodaVsteve: No.16:07
VsteveNo it won't go faster or no it's not starting over?16:08
john_cephalopodaVsteve: It seems unlikely that it compiles itself because it isn't installed after compiling itself once.16:08
john_cephalopodaSo it would have to take over the required compile information from the currently running gcc and stuff.16:08
VsteveAh,I didn't know if it had some smaller way of breaking up the work. But what you say makes sense16:09
VsteveThat being the case, since I now have GCC 5.3.0 installed, could I force reinstall the GCC 5.3.0 package and make it rebuild with the current version?16:10
tuduromcd into the port dir and pkgmk it16:11
VsteveAlrighty16:12
john_cephalopodaVsteve: Alternatively "prt-get update -fr gcc".16:18
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Vsteve@john that's exactly what I'm looking for, thanks17:01
john_cephalopodanp17:02
tuduromVsteve: on irc we don't use @ like on twitter or github17:07
john_cephalopodaI've actually seen some people using it.17:18
john_cephalopodaThe hashtag came from IRC to twitter. So now the @ sign comes from twitter to IRC :D17:18
rmullExcept clients aren't always configured to highlight that, whereas nick: is more reliable17:20
VsteveI think as long as it's understood who you're addressing you could use a flashing neon sign if it gets the job done :)17:22
VsteveIs the eudev package provided in 'core' just provided for compatibility's sake or does the rest of the core set actually depend on eudev?17:29
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VsteveWas there an answer to my eudev question?  I got bumped off18:53
frinnstVsteve: gcc bootstraps itself. Dont remember how many passes it does but you should get the same result no matter what gcc version you start out with (more or less)18:56
VsteveFrinnst, I wondered what part bootstrapping played in the process, I may still try the force recompile command I was given, as that guarantees everything has been reprocessed, but I appreciate the info18:59
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: [notify] firefox: updated to 46.0.19:00
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wildefyrpip from contrib horribly out of date?21:03
wildefyrI know you can force it to update from pip itself21:04
wildefyrbut still21:04
john_cephalopodapip boy21:15
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pedjagtk3 Firefox looks a bit...odd...(official binary)22:49
wildefyrhaven't tried it yet22:49
wildefyrmight switch back to firefox once they implement each tab in it's separate thread22:49
pedjae10s?it's of by default in 46, iirc22:50
pedjaoff*22:50
pedjafonts are all weird, like there is no hinting22:51
pedjaSourceSerifPro can't be this ugly.If Adobe does one thing right, it is fonts.22:58
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[[[archtard]]]yeah22:59
rmullDamn, this firefox update broke my vimperator extension23:00
tired890it kinda looks better after I upgraded23:03
tired890for my theme at least..23:03
pedjaIs anyone willing to share the Firefox package?I don't have the RAM/CPU horsepower to build it :)23:14
pedjaI'd like to see if there is any difference wrt font rendering to official build.23:17
tired890pedja, mine is compiled with march=bdver223:20
tired890if you want it we can try direct transfer..23:20
tired890official build = ports? coz mine is from there23:20
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pedjatired890: iirc, march allows GCC to generate code that may not run on any other cpu than the one passed as an option.thanks anyway :)23:46
tired890pedja, I'm doing something now, later if no one provided a bin I will build one for whatever march you want23:48
pedjatired890: thanks for the offer, i really appreciate it.generic build will do.23:52
pedjawhen you have some spare time, of course, it is not urgent :)23:52
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pedjaafk23:53
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