IRC Logs for #crux Saturday, 2016-05-14

onoderanice, crux has a bang on duckduckgo00:41
onoderaI'm still using gtk2 :)00:41
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rmullAnybody accessing a windows VPN with crux?01:17
rmullLooking for tips01:17
frinnstshould be pretty standard01:27
frinnstpptp too01:27
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jaegerAnyone have a laptop with an optimus graphics setup? One that has an intel VGA device and an nvidia "3D controller"?05:41
brian|lfslaptop desktop yes05:44
brian|lfsI'm assuming you want to use the nvidia correct05:44
jaegerplease note that the nvidia card does not show up as a VGA-capable device05:44
jaegera "muxless" setup as it were05:44
brian|lfswhich card is starting first in your bios05:45
jaegerNot selectable05:45
jaegerThe intel card is the only true VGA device, the nvidia card can't be used without it05:45
brian|lfsah ok on my desktop it is and Linux wont' boot unless the intel card is first05:45
jaegerI can get X working with the intel card only if nvidia is not installed05:45
brian|lfswell my xorg.conf disables intel I can show you what I have05:46
jaegerwon't help, obviously a different setup. Thanks for the offer, though05:46
jaegerIn this case the intel card is always active; when the nvidia card is used to render 3d stuff it passes the rendered stuff back to the intel card for display05:46
brian|lfsI would think doing what I did should work05:48
brian|lfsbut maybe not05:48
jaegerhrmm, ok, maybe it's similar. I've had no luck getting anything like that working, though05:48
jaegerwhat's your lspci output look like on that machine?05:48
brian|lfsI got that conf from arch wiki long time ago05:48
brian|lfsI imagine it depends on what chipset and processor you have also I have skylake05:49
jaegerthis is skylake as well05:49
brian|lfsand its a desktop so I have onboard intel and a Nvidia card05:49
jaeger00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 530 (rev 06)05:49
jaeger02:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM107M [GeForce GTX 960M] (rev a2)05:49
jaegerfirst time I've seen a setup like this, though I'd read about it05:49
brian|lfswow looks the same as mine05:49
brian|lfsjust different nvidia card05:50
brian|lfs960 you would need to use the latest nvidia driver from nvidia05:50
brian|lfsbut should work with nouveau also I've done both ways05:50
brian|lfsbecause the arch wiki lied and said it only works with nouveau05:50
jaegerAt the time it was written that was probably true05:51
jaegerthe official optimus support came in 319.something05:51
brian|lfsI'm using 361 something05:51
brian|lfsit really sounds like a bios limitation on your end I hate to say05:52
jaegerFrom what I've found online this setup also exists on other laptops but who knows, could be05:52
brian|lfsI know out of the box my board couldn't hand 32GB of ram I had to install windows just to format a flash drive to update the bios05:52
brian|lfsI format fat fat32 and exfat from linux bios couldnt' see the update05:53
brian|lfsso mayube a BIOS flash in order05:53
brian|lfsalso would install kernel 4.4x05:54
brian|lfsah even better05:54
jaeger# xrandr --listproviders05:55
jaegerProviders: number : 105:55
jaegerProvider 0: id: 0x1b9 cap: 0x0 crtcs: 0 outputs: 0 associated providers: 0 name:NVIDIA-005:55
jaegerso annoying. can only ever see one of the two devies05:55
brian|lfsmy kernel config just in case don't think its your kernel but who knwos
brian|lfschecking mine05:56
brian|lfsxrandr --listproviders05:56
brian|lfsProviders: number : 105:56
brian|lfsProvider 0: id: 0x279 cap: 0x1, Source Output crtcs: 4 outputs: 6 associated providers: 0 name:NVIDIA-005:56
brian|lfsbut that would be correct for me I'm telling xorg to ignroe my intel05:57
jaegeryour nvidia device is also VGA-capable, though05:57
brian|lfstrue its a seperate card05:57
brian|lfsand also have an ATI radeon 360 in here lol05:58
jaegerI've had no trouble using the discrete nvidia GPU on my skylake desktop, even without any weird xorg config... the laptop's odd, though05:58
brian|lfsyes I've heard the laptops are weird05:58
brian|lfsI love crux but would think way to much trouble running it on a latpop05:58
brian|lfsAt least for me if I want something mobile I want it to just work not compile forever05:59
jaegerI've run it on many over the years05:59
brian|lfsprobably none with the optomus crap06:00
jaegerindeed, this is the first. Not the end of the world if it doesn't work, just would be nice06:00
brian|lfsI would suggest trying a more main stream distro and see if it works and go form there06:01
brian|lfsIsn't Fedora the pioneers of anything dealing with graphics cards LOL06:01
jaegerperhaps I'll give one a try tomorrow, worth a shot06:01
brian|lfssounds like something there would need to be a kernel patch for maybe06:02
brian|lfswho knows06:02
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jaegerI'll try some more tomorrow, thanks for the input06:09
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skrzypWhy CRUX still uses old GCC 5.3?18:13
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frinnstswitching the toolchain for a source-based distribution is no trivial matter18:48
frinnstif we switched to 6.1.0 today, lots of people would ruin their install18:48
frinnstwe only change the toolchain when we do a new release18:49
onoderaskrzyp: It's not that old19:19
skrzypOkay, that's not too important ATM.19:26
skrzypI'm going to build 4.5 kernel with -pf and -grsec at once.19:26
skrzypWill it blend? :D19:27
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: cgroupfs-mount: port taken19:51
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: redis: port taken19:51
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: linux-firmware: 20150814 -> 2016051419:51
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: pip: 8.1.1 -> 8.1.219:51
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: virtualenv-clone: 0.2.4 -> 0.2.619:51
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: virtualenv: 1.11.6 -> 15.0.119:51
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: ebtables: port taken19:51
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: ebtables: remove patchfile20:02
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: dhcp: 4.3.3 -> 4.3.420:09
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tuduromlinux-firmware build fails because it can't download the archive. it returns 404 not found20:26
tuduromport is broken20:26
teK_oopsie ;)20:36
teK_just a sec.20:36
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: linux-firmware: update source url20:59
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vsteveanyone using the nvidia proprietary driver here?21:34
onoderavsteve: I am21:38
vstevedid your non-X terminal colors change slightly after you installed the driver?21:40
vstevenow my "reds" are like...a lighter rosey red21:40
jaegerIt's only an X driver, I can't imagine how it would affect the console... unless your brightness got changed or something21:41
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vsteveyeah that's what I thought too21:42
onoderavsteve: I don;t have this problem however I have heard of it before21:42
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onoderavsteve: iirc it had something to do with cairo21:43
onoderaoh non-X, nope21:43
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vsteveyeah, everything in X looks beautiful, just my pre-X environment is now slightly discolored21:43
vsteveI'm asking in #nvidia21:43
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