IRC Logs for #crux Wednesday, 2016-05-18

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brian|lfshey all virtualbox on crux what package has the kernel modules00:49
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Romsterbrian|lfs, is is in the virtualbox package02:31
Romsterrebuild virtualbox02:31
Romsterif you bumped your kernel02:32
Romsterthen sudo /sbin/depmod -a02:32
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brian|lfsI figured it  out man thanks02:33
brian|lfsjust a weird sudo thing it was seeing the modules doing sudo modprobe02:33
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brian|lfswasn't02:33
brian|lfshow about gl-select its stuck on xorg won't change02:34
brian|lfsto nvidia02:34
Romsteryou need to regenerate modules.dep System.map cache with depmod -a after any module updates before you can modprobe them. or reboot the system.02:35
Romsterdepmod -a just saves rebooting02:35
brian|lfsstrange guess updating my system and reinstall mesa3d fixed it02:36
brian|lfsfor my nvidia driver02:36
brian|lfsbut need to reboot graphics look like shit02:36
Romsteri don't know what you did to your system but perhaps you forgot about gl-select02:37
brian|lfsnot sure shoudl be good after a reboot nvidia is selected now02:37
Romsterand ran nvidia-xconfig02:37
brian|lfsmy xconf is fine02:38
Romsterif your not got Xorg.conf for that.02:38
brian|lfsbrb it could of been something with with kf5 updating also02:38
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Romsterand don't enable nouveau stuff or framebuffer stuff as that'll conflict with nvidia02:39
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Romsterand don't enable nouveau stuff or framebuffer stuff as that'll conflict with nvidia02:42
brian|lfsI found that out the hard way man lol02:43
brian|lfsmonths ago02:43
jaegergeneral framebuffer stuff is fine. just avoid rivafb and nouveau02:43
jaegervesa, efi, not a problem02:43
brian|lfsyup yup there off02:43
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brian|lfsseems to be a KF5 issue with icons strange02:43
Romsterwhat is KF5?02:43
brian|lfsplasma 502:44
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Romsterkde stuff02:44
Romsterhas alan even updated for kde5?02:45
brian|lfsnope lol02:45
brian|lfstsaop02:45
brian|lfsmade a github and he updates it a lot02:45
Romsterwhere is the url i'll start mirroring the distfiles of it.02:46
brian|lfslooking02:46
brian|lfs kf5.git02:46
brian|lfsNAME=kf502:46
brian|lfsURL=https://github.com/tsaop/crux-kf5.git02:46
brian|lfsBRANCH=master02:46
Romsterah a git driver02:47
brian|lfshe has instructions on the bottom of the page on installing it and all02:47
brian|lfsseems to run very smooth and fast for anything kde02:47
brian|lfsnot sure why he won't just put it on the portsdb02:48
Romsterdunno but i'll just fetch the distfiles for the time being.02:49
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brian|lfsand its not like I can talk to him he comes on I'm at work02:50
brian|lfsor sleeping02:50
Romsterthere is email :)02:50
brian|lfstrue02:50
brian|lfs# Maintainer: Tsaop, leeroy at cock dot li02:51
brian|lfslol02:51
brian|lfsI'll let  you try that address02:52
Romstercock.li ok then...02:53
brian|lfsdidn't see an em ail on the github02:53
Romsteryou do know how to change that to an actual email address right?02:54
Romsterat = @02:54
brian|lfsof course02:54
Romsterforget the stuff before ,02:54
brian|lfsbut its probably not real02:54
jaegerRomster: you can't be serious, heh02:54
jaegerthat "obfuscation" doesn't fool anything, not even bots02:54
Romsteryeah it's weak as.02:55
jaegerI suspect that's a fake email, though02:55
brian|lfssame here02:56
brian|lfsthats why I told Romster I'll let him try it02:56
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: boost: 1.60.0 -> 1.61.012:28
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: atkmm: 2.24.1 -> 2.24.212:28
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: glibmm: 2.46.1 -> 2.48.112:28
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: gtkmm: add as-needed for linking12:28
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: pangomm: 2.38.1 -> 2.40.012:28
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: gsl: 1.15 -> 2.112:28
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: libsigc++: 2.6.2 -> 2.8.012:28
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: inkscape: remove dependency libart_lgpl added README for librsvgrsvg for cairo12:28
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tudurom_jaeger: i may not be able to test your ports for at least one month because i'm trying freebsd on my machine and i have to uninstall crux14:47
tudurom_and for some reason i can't connected to the internet. it works with the arch usb tho14:47
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: qt5: 5.5.1 -> 5.6.014:54
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: libebml: 1.3.1 -> 1.3.315:14
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: libmatroska: 1.4.2 -> 1.4.415:14
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: mkvtoolnix: 8.6.1 -> 9.1.015:14
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: aria2: 1.18.5 -> 1.23.015:14
jaegerheh, alright15:20
Romsteri'm still not done but i've had enough for one nights worth of commits15:21
Romster1:21am now15:21
Romsteri'll get to testing docker soon jaeger15:21
tudurom_sorry jaeger15:22
deus_exjaeger: both nvidia and nvidia-sl are broken on 4.6.just FYI15:27
jaegerdeus_ex: broken in a way that can be worked around in a Pkgfile or just broken pending new versions from upstream?15:32
pedjajaeger: there are only patches for 364.x, afaict15:34
pedjaI couldn't find any for stable branch15:34
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tsaopoh boy, qt got updated to 5.616:03
tsaoplooks like I'll have to recompile a few packages16:03
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cruxbot[core.git/3.2]: dhcpcd: Fix no lease acquired (truncated packet).18:11
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pedjacool pr0n^Wmedia storage https://www-03.ibm.com/systems/storage/flash/v9000/specifications.html18:21
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john_cephalopoda456 TB! Finally I can store all of my copies of the Linux source code!18:23
pedja120k for 6Tb?kinda cheap for IBM gear :)18:23
frinnstbut crazy expensive for other vendors18:23
john_cephalopodaBut no GPU? Meh :þ18:24
frinnstor maybe not.. usd is something like 5sek these days? i always count 10sek18:24
frinnstgpu on a san? :D18:24
john_cephalopodaOh, only 76 kilograms. I will take a screwdriver and put a screen on it, so I can use it as my new ultrabook.18:24
pedjaHN has some interesting discussion https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1171157218:25
frinnsthopefully we should get some more storage soon at work18:28
frinnstnetapp is boring; going nimble this time18:28
pedjasomething with zfs on it?18:28
frinnstno18:28
john_cephalopodaI got a 1TB HDD for my desktop. It's used about 7 or 8%.18:29
pedjai got two.~30% free18:29
frinnstI just added 8tb to my backup server18:29
frinnstneeds vary I guess :)18:30
pedjahome or work?18:30
frinnsthome18:30
pedjanice18:30
pedjaany hd recommendations?18:31
frinnstyeah. finally enough storage to run raid1 on that box18:31
frinnstran jbod before.. a drive died and lost it all18:31
abenzyes, buy laptop HDDs even for your desktop.. should last longer "in theory"18:31
abenzand consume less juice18:31
frinnst2.5" disks are tiny - might as well get flash18:32
frinnst(almost :))18:32
john_cephalopoda31.74 GB in /usr (mostly ports), 50 MB /boot, 36.88 GB in /home, of which 7.588 GB are cloned git repos, 7 GB are ports, and 4 GB are Kerbal Space Program.18:33
pedjathat's the plan, samsung 850 Evo and some 4tb hd.18:33
abenzssds are still pricey for big storage18:33
pedjajohn_cephalopoda: KSP ftw !18:34
john_cephalopodapedja: Yay!18:34
frinnstI bought a 240gb intel 540s recently18:34
frinnst800SEK18:34
john_cephalopodaUnfortunately KSP has some issues on my computer since they switched to Unity 5.18:34
john_cephalopodaIs there some way to preload some executables at startup, so firefox doesn't take so long to load the first time I start it?18:34
abenzjohn_cephalopoda: how long?18:35
frinnstfredrik@nibbler:~$ sudo du -shx18:36
frinnst3.0T.18:36
john_cephalopodaabenz: Let me see...18:36
john_cephalopodaabenz: About 12 seconds.18:37
abenzthats unusually long even for normal hdd18:38
john_cephalopodaMy boot time in dmesg is ~10.1 seconds.18:38
john_cephalopodaBut firefox and all other stuff just takes so long to load...18:38
abenzyour hdd is connected to the native MB sata controller right? not some 3rd party chip18:38
john_cephalopodaMaybe it's some GTK issue.18:38
pedja850Evo, 250 gb is ~110 euros here.18:38
abenzie marvell etc18:38
frinnstjohn_cephalopoda: firefox is huuuuuge18:39
john_cephalopoda00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family 6-port SATA Controller 1 [AHCI mode] (rev 04)18:39
abenzon my system which has an old ssd it takes about 3 seconds18:39
frinnstit takes a while to start even from a ssd18:39
frinnstcosts quite a bit of cpu to start up too iirc18:40
pedjaChrome takes a while to start, grinding the hd like there is no tomorrow18:40
tilmanjohn_cephalopoda: unity issues like what?18:41
pedjaFF is snappy, in comparasion(sp?)18:41
tilmancomparison18:41
tilmanthank me later18:41
pedjathanks :)18:41
tilmantoo soon18:41
abenzlol18:41
pedja8 seconds is 'too soon'?who knew18:42
pedjaencryption is coming to ZoL?Oracle, eat your dark heart out.18:48
john_cephalopodatilman: Some buttons in the settings menu and in the game aren't displayed for me.18:50
john_cephalopodaIt's not horrible but it is annoying.18:50
tilmanah ok18:51
tilmani've had resolution problems (multihead related) in unity games recently18:51
tilmanshadowrun/wasteland 218:51
john_cephalopodaI love KSP. But I'm not a unity fan.18:51
john_cephalopodaThe editor for Linux is absolute crap.18:51
tilmanyou people should get Stellaris18:51
john_cephalopodaThe unity editor requires root rights to extract itself to a local directory and doesn't work very well.18:52
john_cephalopodaStellaris looked cool. I should watch a few Let's plays.18:52
tilmanuid 0 all the things!18:52
john_cephalopodaBut I'm not much of a player. I prefer to make games over playing them :þ18:52
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crash_tilman: Stellaris is a nice game!20:09
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joacimI only play GTAO these days. been doing so for nearly a year :(22:10
joacimtoo lazy to get started on other things22:11
joacimrecently finished the witcher 3 tho22:11
joacimgot a good ending =)22:11
abenzI feel as if I'm wasting my life when playing games. is it normal?22:11
pedjayes22:11
joacimif you dont like games, it would be a waste of time22:12
joacimit isnt if you do like em22:12
joacimnow i want new higher capacity drives too22:13
joacimgot 2x 4TB drives in raid1 atm. Wan't a couple of 8TB drives. one for offline backups22:14
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pedjawhat are best bang for the buck HD these days?Toshiba/Hitachi?22:21
abenzI believe that depends heavily on where you're buying from22:23
abenzI go for HGST but now they are owned by another company so..22:23
jaegerMy last few spinners have been WD reds... but I rarely buy spinners anymore, only for a NAS box22:23
pedjaabenz: Seagate, I think, but they still make their own, iirc.22:24
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abenzoh22:25
jaegerWD owns HGST these days, I believe22:25
jaegerI've no idea if that has any effect on their quality22:26
pedjaI have 2 Samsung 1tb hds, from the ancient times :)22:26
jaegerI think I might still have a samsung spinpoint in my ESXi server, come to think of it... but most things are on SSD22:27
pedjaSpinpoint F3.They work fine (famous last words).22:29
pedjathey are also the most expensive parts in my machine.And Seasonic PSU.22:33
jaeger:)22:33
pedjaOT q, jaeger: Are you preparing for the Trumpocaplypse ;) ?22:34
pedjaif I owned the domain, it would be 'cantspellforshit.me'22:37
jaegerheh22:39
joacimi have a HDD for my steam library22:41
joacimbut i could get by with a 1TB SSD22:41
pedjajoacim: something like this http://www.kitguru.net/components/ssd-drives/luke-hill/intel-ssd-750-series-1-2tb-pcie-nvme-review/ ? :)23:04
joacimsomething cheap =)23:05
pedjaheh.One youtuber put this into his wife's machine.He got a lot of brownie points, i guess.23:09
pedjaIntel gave it to him for review...23:09
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