IRC Logs for #crux Saturday, 2016-06-11

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vsteveany devs around?03:49
vsteveI think there might be something wrong with the gnutls package03:49
vsteve=======> ERROR: Footprint mismatch found: MISSING       usr/bin/crywrap03:51
vsteveit looks like it almost finishes up too, I don't know what crywrap is, but right before that it looks like it's setting up man pages03:52
vsteveI'll hit the mailing list with this as well03:52
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rmullWorks for me04:01
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: gcc-fortran: 5.3.0 -> 5.4.004:06
Romsterbuilding gnutls in a clean docker container but i suspect it will be fine04:07
Romster=======> Building '/var/ports/packages/gnutls#3.4.13-1.pkg.tar.xz' succeeded.04:10
jaegerhe's already gone04:10
Romsterno footprint mismatch vstee04:10
Romsterbah04:11
Romsterwell it works for me.04:11
korio704:11
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jaegermaybe he's missing a dep or lib that crywrap links against04:11
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Romsterwhat doesn't is xine-lib seems to be missing xcb crap04:11
Romsteri can't see why, has to be a missing include on some change?04:12
Romsterthere is on two listed for gnutls: nettle libidn04:12
Romstermaybe he used install instead of depinst04:13
Romsterwould not be the first person to do that ^04:14
Romsteron another note who ever added pulseaudio to opt failed to inform me that 2 of it's dependencies i maintain are in contrib04:15
Romsteri only noticed this on the recent pulseaudio update04:16
Romstersince i don't use it but i looked over the changes on the diff.04:16
Romsterso now i have to fix that by moving them to opt04:17
Romsteras currently it breaks a rule about opt not depending on contrib04:17
Romsterthe things i do04:18
nogagplzwhat are you going to do when systemd is a hard dependency for pulseaudio04:19
Romstergo on a rampage -_-04:20
nogagplzmonster.romster coming at ya04:23
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Romsterhonestly i think at that point pulseaudio would be dropped from crux04:26
nogagplzwhat even requires it04:26
Romsterno idea really.04:26
Romsterare you going todo some emulator stuff when you got time nogagplz ?04:27
nogagplzyeah it's still on my todo list, my semester was a car accident, I have 2 tests left then I'll dive into it finally04:27
Romsteroh you never mentioned any car accident what happend?04:28
nogagplzfiguratively speaking, all the work piled up faster than I could clear it04:28
Romsteroh right, trust me not to pay enough attention to the context04:30
Romsteri'm going though ports fixing and bumping stuff as per usual and being the crux police on broken rules.04:30
nogagplza car accident would've at least got me a break :P04:31
nogagplzwas there any progress on git support in pkgfiles, or nothing yet04:31
Romsternah do the same tricks as you do already04:32
jaegerpulseaudio has been in opt for a long time, hasn't it? It was just recently updated04:32
Romsteri haven't progressed on my pre-processing of Pkgfiles yet04:32
Romstercorrect jaeger04:32
Romsterif you look at the dependencies 2 are in contrib04:33
Romsterand i maintain both04:33
jaegerI understand what you mean but are they new deps with the recent update?04:33
Romsterno emails no bug report no irc contact regarding that from maintainer04:33
Romstersame dependencies as before the update04:33
jaegeractually it has fewer now, looks like04:34
xeirrrwho use pulseaudio?!04:35
jaegerI do, for one04:35
Romster-# Depends on:libsndfile speex json-c orc tdb dbus intltool04:35
Romster+# Depends on:libsndfile speex json-c dbus04:35
Romsterwho ever wants to use it, like alan does i have no idea who else.04:36
jaegerIt's a lot better than it used to be, in my opinion04:36
Romsteri don't mind it being in opt i do mind not ever being informed of dependencies it requires that i maintain that are in contrib breaking that rule.04:37
Romsteri have to actually find it myself.04:37
jaegerI imagine it was a mistake rather than the maintainer being out to get you04:38
Romsteri am sure of that. but even with the recent update no emails or anything still.04:38
Romsterdoes no one check things with prtverify?04:38
Romsteri'm going to automate it in a docker container.04:39
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jaegerprtverify doesn't have much to say about it04:39
Romsterand set it up to email reports04:39
Romsterif you set it to check for missing dependences for just core xorg opt it will report any outside dependencies as missing.04:40
jaegerfair enough, though that's not its default operational mode04:41
jaegerso it wouldn't be hard to miss04:41
Romsterno it has to be specified04:41
Romsteractually we already use prtverify and send out emails.04:42
Romstercrux.nu/files/prtverify.log04:42
Romsterthere could be another check for dependencs for (core) (core opt xorg) (core opt xorg compat-32 contrib) added to that jaeger ?04:43
Romsteri don't really need todo the checks when that cron job could do it04:44
jaegerprobably, though I've no idea whose that is04:44
Romstermy guess is either tek or sepens04:45
Romsterthey tend todo most of the distfiles, reporting scripts portsdb stuff?04:45
Romsteri know it's an over sight and no one is actually out to get me :)04:48
jaegeryou seemed really annoyed by it, was trying to joke :) wasn't a great one, though04:49
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.2]: eudev-32: 3.1.5 -> 3.204:49
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.2]: gnutls-32: 3.4.12 -> 3.4.1304:49
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.2]: libgcrypt-32: 1.6.5 -> 1.7.004:49
Romstera little annoyed about it not being found for this long.04:50
Romsteri should of found it sooner.04:50
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: docker: updated to version 1.11.205:06
Romsterthat was fast05:08
jaegerwhat do you mean?05:08
Romsteri haven't found any docker issues since the last fixes05:08
jaegerah05:09
Romsterthe version of docker they are really active on updates05:09
jaegerI have no idea what their release schedule looks like but saw the new release over a week ago, been testing it a bit05:09
Romsterdid you take some time to get thin-provisoning a logical volume in lvm2 to work? i read awhile ago you had a task to set one up.05:09
jaegeryeah, it was annoying but it works05:10
Romstera few commands to make the meta and data LV then combine them yeah and then set it in docker.conf05:10
Romsteri could of told you how if you had asked :)05:10
jaegerthe documentation about it seems really bad05:11
Romstersince i've already done it05:11
Romsterit really is i had to dig for it05:11
jaegerPresumably you were gone at the time :) I was talking about it in irc after all05:11
Romsterhttps://github.com/docker/docker/issues/12101 and i hit that too.05:11
Romsterin the process of doing it.05:11
Romsterthat reminds me could you add a touch $PKG/var/lib/docker to the next docker update?05:13
Romsterso there is at least a hint of that path in .footprint05:13
Romsterdocker generates it on first run05:14
jaegermkdir rather05:14
Romsteroh sorry -_-05:14
jaegeror install -d05:14
Romsteryea install -d05:14
Romstermkdir uses umask and messes up for some users that don't use the 02205:15
jaegerI'm aware05:15
Romsterwhile install will default to 0755 by default.05:15
jaeger0ad8c65fea8b        minecraft:1.7.10-v5   "/minecraft/start"   9 days ago          Up About a minute   0.0.0.0:25565->25565/tcp   hungry_elion05:20
jaegervery important stuff05:20
Romsterhttps://github.com/docker/docker/issues/1380705:20
Romsterand closed and i see no link to what got changed and how it got fixed.05:20
Romsterhehe05:21
jaegerIt looks open to me05:21
Romsteroh right #12101 is closed on that page but not that one05:23
Romsterso still not resolved :/05:23
Romsterso you use docker for just minecraft or other things too?05:23
jaegerI use it for a few other things and we use it for a few apps at work05:24
Romsteri quite like it i made a shell script for docker-setup for crux use05:25
jaegerI mainly started using it out of curiosity rather than any need05:25
Romstermessing with a docker container for starbound too05:25
Romsteri moved away from chroots to docker05:25
Romsterwhat i do need todo is find a good host that runs docker containers so i can spin a few up on a fast pipe05:26
jaegerI know someone who does so on dreamhost and I imagine there are others as well05:28
Romsterfinding a reliable and cheap enough one is the key05:29
jaegerer, sorry, not dreamhost. digitalocean05:29
jaegerstill, I'm sure there are other options available05:29
Romsterah05:29
Romsterprologic probably knows a few05:30
Romsteron that note too i also had prologic ask me to take over the offical crux docker image, i have not done so yet05:30
Romsterunless you are keen todo that jaeger05:30
jaegerI'll look into it if you don't want to. It's new stuff to me05:31
Romsterall it is, is updating the image with a few build scripts05:32
Romsterminimal work other than a few commands but i didn't figure out how it worked, as the build scripts didn't work for me.05:32
Romsterand i've been rather busy05:32
Romsterso i've been using my own https://hub.docker.com/r/romster/crux-base-3.2/05:33
Romsterthat's not using a Dockerfile05:33
Romsterjust a saved image i sysup and commit from time to time05:33
jaegeryeah, I've got one as well05:33
jaegerMade it as a learning exercise05:34
Romsterwhere is prologics github account pushes the Dockerfile and built iso packages as a tar file to docker hub05:34
Romster(that's what i use for testing crux packages with)05:35
Romsterhence why i incuded a few scripts and ccache05:35
Romsterand i mount my systems ccache cache and share that over them all containers05:35
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: wine: 1.9.11 -> 1.9.1205:50
Romsterhi alancio not blaming you about the dependencies, just annoyed that i didn't pick up on them. on 2 other notes though.05:54
Romster1) samba needs it's deps updated and samba itself05:54
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Romster2) kf5 has kde5 why are you still on kde4 and no kde5 and perhaps tsaop could join your kde git tree?05:55
Romsterhttps://github.com/tsaop/crux-kf505:55
alanciowhat dependencies? I just arrived05:56
Romsteralso i noticed some ports in kde use gudev and not opt/libgudev05:56
Romstercould we merge all the libgudev to use the opt one?05:56
Romsterspeex is one looking for the other.05:58
jaegerspeex is the only one now, I think05:59
Romsterah there is only one speex i was looking at libsamplerate but that is optional so not a problem.05:59
Romsteri'll move speex to opt to solve that problem06:00
alanciowhat is the problem with speex?06:00
Romsterit's in contrib and not in opt and opt ports should not depend on contrib06:00
alancioah pulseaudio06:01
alancioI sent you an email about that one some time gao06:01
alancioago06:01
Romsteri must of missed it in my noise of emails :/06:02
alanciothe samba port, if anybody wants to take it, and its dependencies, I would be happy06:02
alancioI only took samba because it had problems and the maintainer didn't have the time06:02
alanciobut I almost never use it, so its up for grabs06:02
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: speex: contrib -> opt06:02
Romsteri tend to use it but it's a ton of extra deps just for samba but i did make a docker container and updated samba.06:03
Romsterand i use it a little for sharing files to windows.06:04
Romsterso i guess i'll pick it up?06:04
alanciogreat, thanks!06:04
alancioto be honest, I don't have much time for port maintenance lately, so any port of mine is up for grabs06:04
Romsteri value your work but how far off is kde5? and i was wondering if you would talk with https://github.com/tsaop/crux-kf506:05
Romsterinto maybe teaming up?06:05
Romsterand i've been thinking of giving away qt5 to who uses it more than i do.06:05
Romsterand kde depends on it among other things06:06
alanciowell, kde5 does, kde4 depends on qt406:06
Romstercorrect06:06
alancioI don't know who tsaop is06:07
alanciodoes he have ports in contrib or something?06:07
alancioultimately the kde repository is not really an official repo06:08
alancioits just hosted in crux.nu06:09
alancioand listed in portdb, as many private repos06:09
alancioif tsaop wants to list his repo in portdb, I see no problem in that06:09
alancioI'm afraid to share my work on KDE, especially with someone I don't even know06:09
alanciobecause maybe these guy's goals priorities could be different than mine, for example, he might value bleeding edge over stability06:10
alancioI haven't had time to work on kde5 lately, so if people want kde5 and his repo works fine, why not list it in portdb?06:12
alancioanother topic06:15
alancioI have been thinking that having all the repositories, even the official ones in github would bring some advantages06:16
alancioit would facilitate collaboration06:16
Romsterhmm ok06:20
alanciofor example, if we used github for kde, it would be easier for 2 people to work together, take pull requests, etc.06:20
Romsterthe thing with that is we could mirror them there i even mirror my romster repo there. i haven't seen any pull requests06:20
Romsteryou can push to multiple targets with git06:21
alanciomaybe because the github repo is not listed in portdb?06:21
Romsterlike i do git push and git push github06:21
Romsterit isn't06:21
alancioso people are not aware06:21
Romstereasily searchable on github though06:22
alanciothe workload would be reduced by accepting pull requests instead of the current process06:22
alanciomaybe I should be asking tsaop to join him ;)06:23
Romsteri don't mind github but i like having control of my stuff incase github is not reachable, and github doesn't make it easy to share httpup rsync only git driver which is not well tested06:23
Romsterbbs got a plumber here unblocking our drain06:23
alanciois that a metaphore? am I the plumber? I'm flattered06:24
alancioanyway, gotta go for lunch06:24
alanciocheck also gitlab, its an alternative to github that we can host ourselves06:25
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Romsternah we have a blocked pipe and we got a plumber here to clear it i had to move my car06:51
Romstergitlab sounds interesting06:51
Romsterturned out it was blocked with hair where the drain pipe hits the main sewer pipe07:28
Romsternoticed it yesterday and fixed today07:28
Romsterhttp://interestingengineering.com/programmer-automates-job-6-years-boss-fires-finds/08:08
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: speex: contrib -> opt08:26
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: gst-plugins-good: 1.8.1 -> 1.8.209:23
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: gst-plugins-bad: 1.8.1 -> 1.8.209:23
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: gst-plugins-ugly: 1.8.1 -> 1.8.209:23
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: gst-libav: 1.8.1 -> 1.8.209:23
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: gst-python: 1.8.1 -> 1.8.209:23
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: gstreamer: 1.8.1 -> 1.8.209:25
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: gst-plugins-base: 1.8.1 -> 1.8.209:25
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cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.2]: gstreamer-32: 1.8.1 -> 1.8.210:00
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.2]: gst-plugins-base-32: 1.8.1 -> 1.8.210:00
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tilmanfrinnst: why didn't you mention mike judge when praising silicon valley? :D17:55
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frinnst:)19:08
frinnstits epic, right?19:09
tilmani laughed out loud at tv for the first time since i don't know when19:19
tilmandiscussing jerk times19:19
tilmano boy19:19
frinnstd2t19:36
frinnstdick to floor19:36
tilman;D19:41
tilman"unless you hotswap dicks in and out"19:42
tilmanalso: "audio worked a hundred fucking years ago, you fucking piece of shit" :D19:45
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cruxbot[core.git/3.2]: make: updated to 4.2.122:51
cruxbot[core.git/3.2]: gettext: updated to 0.19.8.122:54
crash_Silicon valley is a nice show22:59
onoderadoes anyone have some sort of guide of using distcc with pkgmk?23:20
rmullonodera: prt-get readme distcc23:52

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