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| pecg | Hello. I want to make the switch to CRUX since I can barely bear portage's design and functionalities, and I really like source based operating systems, but all BSD have at least one problem with my laptop and CRUX is the closest I could get to a clean, simple system. So I wonder if whenever I want to update CRUX will I have to make the base system update separately. | 02:28 |
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| pecg | Like it usually happens in BSDs | 02:28 |
| jaeger | major release updates are done via ISO officially. Changes to the toolchain or libc are generally avoided during a release's life | 02:30 |
| pecg | jaeger: I understand. Just to avoid bothering you with unnecessary questions, is there a place where I can read more about the update process in crux? | 02:32 |
| jaeger | take a look at https://crux.nu/Main/Handbook3-2#ntoc12 | 02:32 |
| pecg | jaeger: Thanks | 02:33 |
| jaeger | basically it boils down to: boot the CD/USB, mount your installation, run setup and choose the upgrade option | 02:33 |
| pecg | jaeger: I'm almost drowning in tears. CRUX is just like a BSD. A solid base system with rolling ports for third party applications. | 02:34 |
| pecg | jaeger: THANKS!!! | 02:35 |
| jaeger | welcome :) | 02:35 |
| jaeger | I recommend giving it a try in a VM first just so you can see things without reinstalling entirely | 02:35 |
| pecg | Yes, I will certainly do it, right now. | 02:36 |
| pecg | jaeger: https://crux.nu/Wiki/Cryptsetup does this work with a boot partition in a usb using GRUB? | 02:38 |
| jaeger | I'm not sure, I haven't used cryptsetup much... sorry | 02:39 |
| pecg | jaeger: Can you point me to some who has? if that is not too much to ask for. | 02:39 |
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| jaeger | I would suggest just waiting here in IRC for someone who has more experience to see it | 02:40 |
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| pecg | jaeger: Thank you | 02:41 |
| jaeger | np | 02:41 |
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| brian|lfs | wow down to 57 people in here we need more people | 03:49 |
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| pecg | Hello, what is the name of the port for atheros based usb wireless cards firmware? | 03:59 |
| jaeger | pecg: I believe it's all in linux-firmware | 04:01 |
| pecg | jaeger: oh yes, I missed that one, thanks | 04:01 |
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| pecg | has anyone done compilation against libressl with packages from opt or any other ports collection? | 04:39 |
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| pecg | What is the default method (or the most popular) to build initramfs or initrd images? | 04:47 |
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| pecg | Hello, is there anybody outhere? I want to know what is the default method to generate initrd or initramfs. | 06:38 |
| nwe | pecg: install mkinitramfs from romster repo.. | 06:41 |
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| pecg | nwe: Thanks | 06:46 |
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| pecg | nwe: is it possible to generate initramfs or initrd from the installation disk? | 06:57 |
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| pecg | On a side question, can I just use my own sources for the kernel? | 07:12 |
| nwe | yupp | 07:14 |
| pecg | nwe: The Handbook mentions something about the kernel headers on /usr/include/linux and /usr/include/asm, what should I keep in mind when using other sources? | 07:15 |
| pecg | I certainly love the simple approach of CRUX to solve things, I can do everything by hand, which I like. | 07:17 |
| frinnst | not I but I know some have. | 07:26 |
| frinnst | sorry ignore that | 07:27 |
| frinnst | thats the location of the kernel headers pecg. | 07:27 |
| frinnst | we ship the kernel headers with core/glibc | 07:27 |
| frinnst | but just download the latest release from kernel.org, extract and build+install | 07:31 |
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| Romster | saptech romster repo spacefm been upated | 08:02 |
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| saptech | hello all | 11:49 |
| saptech | I just got in from work, and started up firefox and now it's giving segmentation faults and closes out | 11:49 |
| saptech | I've been using it since the july 6 and this first time it happen | 11:50 |
| saptech | I've been trying to update it from the original install version but it keeps bombing out | 11:51 |
| saptech | v42.0 | 11:51 |
| saptech | any ideas what may be causing the seg fault? | 11:52 |
| saptech | chromium build failed but chromium-pepperflash installed | 12:02 |
| saptech | never mind about FF. I guess it was some open tabs causing the Seg faults | 12:23 |
| onodera | that's still weird | 12:24 |
| joacim | I don't know much about your errors, due to no error logs, so I can only suggest hardware tests like memtest86+ to rule out your memory as the cause of your issues. | 12:29 |
| joacim | also make sure all dependencies are installed | 12:29 |
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| saptech | memory should be okay, I have Debian & Windows installed | 12:46 |
| saptech | let me ask. Is there a difference in using prt-get install and prt-get depinst? | 12:46 |
| saptech | prt-get depinst would make sure depends are installed? | 12:49 |
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| onodera | saptech: correct, prt-get install only install the package and doesn't even check for deps | 13:01 |
| saptech | ok, thanks. | 13:02 |
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| saptech | what causes a footprint mismatch? I'm installing Midori and about 3 depends had it. I was able to figure out how to update them | 13:20 |
| onodera | saptech: what's the footprint mismatch | 13:29 |
| onodera | MISSING or NEW? | 13:29 |
| saptech | I can't remember at the moment, one was libsoup, i think | 13:32 |
| saptech | but after typing, pkgmk -uf, so far the compiling has continued | 13:33 |
| saptech | I need to take better notes. | 13:35 |
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| frinnst | NEW errors are probably not really errors to begin with | 13:58 |
| frinnst | its quite common for software X to identify some extra library on the host system during the configuration process and link with it / add new functionality to software X using the library | 13:59 |
| frinnst | I just got this on my system while upgrading samba: | 13:59 |
| frinnst | =======> New files found: | 13:59 |
| frinnst | NEW -rwxr-xr-x root/root usr/bin/smbspool_krb5_wrapper | 13:59 |
| frinnst | NEW -rwxr-xr-x root/root usr/lib/samba/vfs/snapper.so | 13:59 |
| frinnst | =======> Building '/usr/ports/pkg/samba#4.3.11-1.pkg.tar.gz' succeeded. | 13:59 |
| frinnst | I have kerberos installed on this machine - the maintainer doesnt (and its not a requirement to use samba) | 14:00 |
| frinnst | so I have PKGMK_IGNORE_NEW="yes" in /etc/pkgmk.conf | 14:01 |
| frinnst | now, if you get MISSING errors you should pay attention. you dont want to be upgrading glibc and and get a MISSING on lib/ld-2.22.so for example :) | 14:02 |
| saptech | onodera, I was using FF and switch to a virtual screen, open a new FF, then it Seg fault | 14:03 |
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| saptech | frinnst, are you explaining to me or in general? | 14:10 |
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| saptech | it seems when I open FF with tabs, it seg fault. but if I open it without tabs, it runs | 14:13 |
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| saptech | from cli, I see this message in the terminal, " Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon 'list-add' for stock: Icon 'list-add' not present in theme Adwaita" | 14:15 |
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| frinnst | saptech: gtk errors/warnings from firefox are quite common | 14:20 |
| saptech | frinnst, ok. But some reason FF has been Seg Faulting at times | 14:40 |
| frinnst | clean profile? | 15:09 |
| frinnst | I maintain firefox so im to blame :) | 15:10 |
| frinnst | random crashes or? | 15:10 |
| saptech | random | 15:14 |
| saptech | yes I installed Crux July 6 and since been trying to upgrade it but it doesn't complete | 15:15 |
| saptech | when I compile it, this is what I get | 15:16 |
| saptech | https://bpaste.net/show/c5ee65141f47 | 15:16 |
| saptech | I have a 14 yr old grandson graduating from thd 8th to the 9th grade, I need to run but should be back in a few hours | 15:19 |
| saptech | the* | 15:19 |
| lounge | hi ,did anyone successfully installed kf5 lasma-dektop ? | 15:25 |
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| pecg | Hello. I asked this many hours ago, but I wonder if anyone of you has an fully encrypted disk. | 15:25 |
| pecg | Currently my configuration has an unencrypted /boot on a pendrive and a disk formated on luks with two lvm volumes inside. | 15:26 |
| pecg | In order for this to work in crux I would also need an initramfs (or initrd) able to decrypt the encrypted partition of the local disk and then activate the logical volumes where / and /home reside. | 15:28 |
| pecg | I was wondering if I can build the initramfs/initrd on other distribution for it to be used in crux. | 15:28 |
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| onodera | https://github.com/onodera-punpun/prtstuff | 20:15 |
| onodera | I'm writing a bunch of ports utils in fish, if anyone here want to check them out and maybe has some ideas op feedback, please tell me :) | 20:16 |
| wildefyr | oh | 20:20 |
| wildefyr | it's fish ? :( | 20:20 |
| wildefyr | posix is the only way of lyfe | 20:20 |
| onodera | if you want to be tied to old standards :^) | 20:21 |
| wildefyr | eh | 20:23 |
| wildefyr | posix is an oldie but a goodie | 20:27 |
| wildefyr | sticking to it will make your life easier :D | 20:27 |
| wildefyr | fuck learn fish | 20:27 |
| onodera | You don't really need to learn fish, it's pretty much sh, but with a simpler syntax | 20:28 |
| wildefyr | but sh is already simple | 20:28 |
| wildefyr | also does fish come installed by default anywhere? | 20:28 |
| onodera | and It's not like I forget how to use sh/bash when using fish | 20:28 |
| onodera | I don't care about portability, I write scripts for myself. | 20:29 |
| wildefyr | but I can run my scripts anywhere... | 20:32 |
| onodera | I can run my scripts anywhere where i have rootacces | 20:33 |
| onodera | since I don't use any computers where I don't it doesn't really matter what language or dependencies I use | 20:33 |
| wildefyr | yet... | 20:34 |
| wildefyr | also | 20:34 |
| wildefyr | I have loads of my sh scripts on github | 20:34 |
| wildefyr | it's great knowing that these will run anywhere for someone on a unix system | 20:34 |
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