IRC Logs for #crux Wednesday, 2016-08-10

jaegerlain_: usually you get a grub command line if it can't find the config file00:07
jaegerwhich should be /boot/grub/grub.cfg most of the time00:07
lain_Yeah I was just testing grub to see if it'd figure it out for me00:07
lain_i'm trying efistub currently00:07
lain_but nothing is working c:00:08
jaegeroften it can. if you mount your ESP at /boot/efi and run 'grub-install /boot/efi', then grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg00:08
jaegerThe auto-generated config files are bulky but generally work well00:08
jaegerWhen trying to use efistub, what's your efibootmgr command line?00:10
lain_one sec let me type it00:10
lain_efibootmgr -c -d /dev/sda -l "\efi\vmlinuz.efi" -L "CRUX"00:11
jaegerok, move vmlinuz.efi to /boot/efi/efi00:12
jaegeror use 'efibootmgr -c -l "\vmlinuz.efi" -L "CRUx"00:13
lain_Well sda1 is mounted to /boot/efi00:13
jaegerthe '-d /dev/sda' is superfluous as '/dev/sda' is the default for -d00:13
lain_i understand now00:13
lain_if it works i'm going to do a silly dance00:14
lain_kernel panic00:14
lain_one step closer00:14
jaegerthat's progress :)00:14
lain_oh cause I need to recompile the kernel to update the uuid on my partitions00:15
lain_or something00:15
jaegerwas it a VFS panic?00:18
lain_It said that the root device was not found00:18
lain_it was00:18
jaegermost likely your kernel is missing either the filesystem support or the disk controller support builtin00:19
jaegerahci, ext4, etc.00:19
lain_oh ok so just double check my config and recompile?00:19
jaegerprobably, yeah00:19
jaegermake sure the controller and the filesytem you use are builtin rather than module (<*> vs. <M>)00:19
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lain_ah, vfat filesystems were compiled as a module00:23
jaegerthat shouldn't be a problem00:23
jaegersince the boot/efi partition isn't needed to boot up the system once the kernel is loaded00:24
jaegerwhatever FS you used on /dev/sda2 should be builtin, though00:24
lain_ oh.00:24
jaegerand check your disk controller with lspci -k00:24
lain_what do you mean check it?00:25
lain_oh wait, I need the intel ucode stuff don't i.00:25
jaegerwell, lspci -k tells you which kernel driver is in use for a device, if it can00:26
jaegerfor example:00:26
jaeger03:00.0 Serial Attached SCSI controller: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic SAS1068 PCI-X Fusion-MPT SAS (rev 01)00:26
jaeger        Subsystem: VMware SAS Controller00:26
jaeger        Kernel driver in use: mptsas00:26
jaegerso I'd search the kernel config for mptsas00:26
jaegerif you're not sure which one it is, look for ATA/SATA/SCSI devices00:28
lain_yeah the kernel module is ahci00:28
lain_but it's built in normally00:28
jaegerhow about scsi disk support?00:28
lain_I have no idea00:28
jaegercheck that, too, it's needed00:29
lain_oh yeah, it is00:29
jaegerAfter the latest kernel build did you re-copy the vmlinuz file to your ESP?00:30
lain_Yeah but i'm gonna try one last time just to make sure00:30
lain_No :c00:32
lain_I need a constant group of nerds to be around me at all times and tell me what i'm doing wrong.00:32
lain_I am angry.00:38
lain_I'm going to cook eggs00:38
lain_ACTION afk00:38
lain_the egg did not help my kernel stop being scared.00:58
lain_ I give up c:01:32
jaegerif you pastebin your kernel config I'll take a look at it01:33
lain_ok give me a minute,  sorry.01:36
jaegerIt's been a while since I tested efi stub but I suspect that CONFIG_CMDLINE="(root=/dev/sda2 ro quiet)" should be CONFIG_CMDLINE="root=/dev/sda2 ro quiet"01:47
lain_oh my lordey01:48
lain_if that's the answer all along01:48
jaegerotherwise it looks ok at a quick glance01:48
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lain_it did!01:52
lain_ok so i'm in your debt now01:53
lain_I owe you at least one lapdance01:53
jaegerheh, no worries. glad you're up now01:53
lain_now I just have to get sound, and wifi working, find a suitable window manager, and learn how to use linux.01:54
lain_jaeger: one last thing before I go sleep, what's the easiest way to change the framebuffer resolution?01:58
jaegerwith efi stub, I have no idea. It's not hard to do with grub, though01:58
lain_Could I add it to the command line kernel config? or something.01:59
jaegerI don't know, sorry....01:59
lain_ah that's ok, it's just another thing on my current todo.txt located in /root02:00
lain_Anyways, thanks for all the help, and good night02:02
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: ffmpeg: 3.1.1 -> 3.1.202:48
marakuwhat do you guys use as an ftp server (on crux)03:51
jaegerIt's been years but the last one I remember using was vsftpd03:58
][_R_][vsftpd is my goto04:05
rmullvsftpd ++04:09
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: libxslt: 1.1.28 -> 1.1.2910:30
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.2]: libxslt-32: 1.1.28 -> 1.1.2910:31
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: libxvid: moved opt -> contrib10:47
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: libxvid: moved opt -> contrib10:48
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: libxvid: 1.3.2 -> 1.3.410:48
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: lua: 5.3.2 -> 5.3.310:57
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cippplibxvid was deleted from opt and now ffmpeg fail to build: ERROR: libxvid not found11:01
cipppi did something wrong ?11:01
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: p7zip: 9.20.1 -> 16.0211:17
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rmulljaeger: imagemagick 6.x needs a bump:
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abenzcipp: prt-get update -f libxvid14:42
abenzcippp ^14:42
cipppsudo  prt-get update -f libxvid14:42
cippppackage libxvid is not installed14:42
abenzis the contrib repo enabled?14:43
abenzlibxvid was moved there14:43
Romsterprt-get depinst libxvid14:43
Romsterif you had it installed before a prt-get sysup whould be fine14:44
Romsterbut since you don't and it should of been pulled in with ffmpeg14:44
cipppRomster: i removed when i saw is removed from opt14:44
Romsterunless you don't use ffmpeg14:44
cipppi use ffmpeg14:44
abenzso you should install it then14:45
Romster-_- so prt-get install libxvid14:45
cipppfor firefox14:45
abenzit was moved not removed14:45
Romsterwhy remove it when you see i moved it to contrib14:45
Romsterand then updated it14:45
cipppbut is not14:45
cipppi try14:45
Romsternothing in opt depends on libxvid so i move it to contrib.14:45
cipppim blind14:45
Romsterports -u ; prt-get info libxvid14:45
cipppsorry for noise14:45
cipppblind and dumb14:46
Romsterit's okay14:46
abenzno worries buddy its better actually.. we need more activity here14:46
abenzright frinnst ?14:46
Romsterfor a moment i thought i did a bobo14:46
cippp-- Packages installed14:47
Romsterbut it was just cippp PEBCAK14:47
Romsterthe system is doing exactly as you tell it to do.14:47
cipppi saw was deleted from opt, i dint saw was moved14:47
abenzyou didnt read it fully dear14:48
cipppwhy to read ... :)14:48
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abenz<cruxbot> [opt.git/3.2]: libxvid: moved opt -> contrib14:49
abenzcruxbot: ping14:49
abenzno auto responses?14:49
Romstercruxbot> [opt.git/3.2]: libxvid: moved opt -> contrib14:49
Romster<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.2]: libxvid: moved opt -> contrib14:49
Romster<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.2]: libxvid: 1.3.2 -> 1.3.414:49
Romstermoved opt -> contrib <- like hello?14:50
cipppi think i come after, but i dint read prt-get log14:50
Romsterhow is that removed or dropped?14:50
Romsterthere is the irc log in the /topic14:50
RomsterMOVED is not REMOVED14:50
lain_the hardest thing about installing crux is chosing the username for your new account14:51
teK__I propose: lain14:52
teK__problem solved14:52
Romsteralso the commit message is meaningful14:53
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lain_lain it is14:56
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pedjaYou are bored at work, and your coworkers have cheap wireless keyboards?http://www.keysniffer.net14:58
jaegerthose commit messages don't reflect in 'ports -u', though14:58
jaegerso if you're not looking at the IRC channel or logs or the ML it's easy to miss14:58
jaegernot that it matters, just speculating14:59
pedjaI eyeball grepped the Changelog for 4.6.6, and I don't see the patch for ack limit vulnerability.15:02
pedjaworkaround is trivial, though.15:02
frinnstthe kernel folks thinks hiding security vulns from the changelog is a good idea15:03
pedjasecurity thru obscurity?that always ends well.15:05
pedjaalso, would it kill openssl devs not to cram bunch of new features into the security update?15:06
pedjaI am building 4.7, hopefully  nvidia's 367.36.02 compiles with it without patching.(I know, I know, 'get the AMD already')15:11
onoderapedja: it wond15:11
onoderaoh 36.0215:11
pedjaonodera: are you trying to make me sad?it almost worked.15:14
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pedjaI'll build 4.6.6 too, just in case nvidia driver pukes with 4.7.but what are the chances of *that*?15:17
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cipppif i have intel and nvidia, i can use nvidia without optimus/bumblebee ?15:20
pedjaI always wonder about the story behind the names for kernel releases.15:21
onoderayeah I'm pretty sure you can force to use nvidia15:21
onoderayou just don't get the powersaving benifit of switching between intel and nvid15:21
jaegerdepends on the architecture. if the nvidia GPU shows up as a 3d device rather than a vga device, you cannot15:21
onoderapedja: some get voted for I'm pretty sure15:21
jaegercheck it with lspci15:22
pedja'Psychotic Stoned Sheep' is an awesome name for band.15:22
cippp04:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF117M [GeForce 610M/710M/810M/820M / GT 620M/625M/630M/720M] (rev a1)15:22
cipppjaeger: ^15:22
cipppso no15:23
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pedjaonodera: final decision is Linus's, as a BDFL, iirc.15:34
pedjait's his baby, after all.15:35
pedja25 year old baby, but still.15:35
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lain_How can I add flags like -j(x) to prt-get's compiling?15:51
jaegerMAKEFLAGS in /etc/pkgmk.conf15:52
lain_Thanks c:15:52
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onodera lain_ prt-get just uses pkgmk to build15:55
onoderawhich in turn just sources pkgmk.conf15:55
lain_yeah i just figured that out15:56
lain_So I can just 'export MAKEOPTS="j5" ' in pkgmk.conf and have it work15:59
lain_that's pretty neato16:01
teK__ MAKEOPTS=" -j5 "16:01
lain_Yeah, typo, sorry16:02
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onoderaI use export MAKEFLAGS="-j4"16:07
onoderaise this wrong?16:07
teK__no, should be ok16:16
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john_cephalopodaI simply added makeflag thread count to my bashrc17:52
lain_2 hours later and 'prt-get sysup' is still spewing out lines of text c:17:57
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john_cephalopodalain_: Are you updating qt? :þ18:02
lain_nah just the core/xorg packages.18:03
john_cephalopodaAhrg, I'm trying to get jackd to work.18:03
john_cephalopodaIt is some /etc/security/limits.conf stuff, but I have no clue what I have to change there. Apparently it doesn't care about it at all.18:04
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frinnstsounds strange18:08
frinnstwhat error do you get?18:08
john_cephalopodaNo error, it just doesn't apply the limits that I set.18:09
john_cephalopoda@audio - memlock unlimited18:09
john_cephalopoda[john@metis ~]$ ulimit -l18:10
john_cephalopodaIt should be unlimited.18:10
john_cephalopodaI am in group audio.18:10
frinnstwhere have you put that?18:10
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frinnst/etc/security/limits.conf does not exist in a default crux install18:12
frinnstso I doubt anything will read it18:12
john_cephalopoda /etc/security/limits.d/99-audio.conf18:12
frinnstprt-get fsearch limits.conf suggests its part of pam18:12
frinnstand searching the web just finds a lot of similar issues with pam distros18:13
john_cephalopodaI will just remove pam. Maybe it helps. Brb.18:13
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frinnstyou dont just remove pam18:13
frinnsti did NOT tell him to do that18:14
frinnstyou all saw it!18:14
frinnsti have witnesses!18:14
marakuso ... what's gonna happen when he removes PAM?18:15
frinnstThen I saw advice that existing limits.conf files could cause conflicts with audio.conf and jackd, so I removed /etc/security/limits.conf.18:15
frinnstNow I cannot log in to my computer at all!18:15
frinnstbrilliant thread18:15
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frinnstdude, dont just go removing pam18:16
frinnstshit will probably break (tm)18:16
frinnstif you have it installed18:16
john_cephalopodaDidn't break™18:16
john_cephalopodaI doubt that it was used by anything.18:17
frinnstdid you have pam installed?18:17
frinnsthave you logged out after removing it?18:17
john_cephalopodaI have rebooted the whole system18:17
frinnstoh. i was expecting major carnage18:17
john_cephalopodaAnd logged out and in again.18:17
jaegerMight not have had anything built against it18:18
john_cephalopodaBut even after uninstalling my ulimit -l stays 64.18:19
frinnstman ulimit18:19
john_cephalopodaI will just add an rcscript named pam that sets the options for me as I want.18:20
john_cephalopodaAhrg, all that trouble just for unlimited system resources and a little bit of realtime...18:32
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lain_how long should the initial sysup take?18:50
lain_oh i misspelled MAKEFLAGS.18:53
lain_i am dumb18:53
joacimfor me it takes a few minutes18:54
joacim10-15 minutes maybe18:55
joacimdont rememember exactly tho since its been a while18:55
joacimdepends on the computer18:55
joacimand if you chose to instlal more than just the core packages18:55
lain_i installed xorg as well so..18:56
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sonophiliaI had trouble getting jackd to work as I wanted it on CRUX, which is one reason I use another distro.19:16
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marakurip lain_, what kind of hardware do you have?19:34
lain_i'm on a friggin t440p19:34
marakuthen again, if you're upgrading gcc, prepare to wait and wait and wait19:34
lain_I am i think19:35
lain_but it's been like 4 hours19:35
marakuyou can "find /usr/ports -name 'work'"19:36
marakuto see whatever you're building atm19:36
lain_it's gcc19:37
lain_why linux whyy19:37
marakuyeah, you'll have fun19:37
lain_i'm currently having the most amount of fun possible while looking at an uninteractive screen full of text.19:38
marakussh tron?19:38
marakussh sshtron.zachlatta.com19:39
marakuI'll play ya19:39
lain_cant resolve hostname, gimme a sec19:40
lain_internet broke itself while compiling gcc c:19:43
lain_ok im in19:44
abenzwhats this19:48
lain_its tron!19:50
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lain_haha 11319:58
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lain_it's done u^u21:11
lain_im free21:11
john_cephalopodalain_: But are you also libre?21:53
lain_mostly, i have some proprietary blobs .. oh i get it.21:54
john_cephalopodaYeah, brain is horrible, scientist have been trying to reverse-engineer it for ages.21:56
john_cephalopodaGNU/Brain might come along some day.21:57
john_cephalopodaIt will be horribly cluttered and unusable, maybe KDE will make a shiny alternative.21:57
lain_is wmutils any good?22:02
dxtrlulz GNU22:02
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jaegerheh... 111GB database text dump compressed down to 5.5GB gzip archive22:20
lain_Wait, how do I add the contrib repo to prt-gets's list22:28
pedjaedit the /etc/prt-get.conf ('prtdir $path_to_contrib')22:28
pedjait might be there, just commeneted out22:29
lain_It just screams that it can't access /usr/ports/contrib, should I just create it or am I missing something22:30
lain_ports -u22:31
jaeger if you haven't already enabled it22:31
pedjaonodera: you were right, 367.36.02 doesn't build with 4.722:32
lain_jaeger: arigato friendo22:32
dxtrI hate when I have the name of an artist on the tip of my tongue but I just can't get it22:32
pedjaluckily, I have a patch :)22:32
pedjadxtr: try humming the tune into Soundhound :)22:33
dxtrBut I don't remember any songs either. I just remember an "album cover" :p22:34
dxtrI think it was pretty common on youtube a couple of years ago. A cartoon female with a pink hood of some sort22:34
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lain_having this as an .xinitrc should work right?
pedja'startx' to find out22:42
lain_that's why i was asking it just successfully closes22:43
jaegertry without exec22:43
lain_but then if my terminal dies I have no way to kill x22:44
jaegerexec xterm is fine if you start a window manager afterwards or something but otherwise exec will replace the running shell22:44
jaegeryou probably want to run a WM rather than xterm22:44
lain_well I was just trying out sxhkd with wmutils22:44
lain_to see if I could22:44
lain_withought a window manager.22:44
jaegerI have no experience with those22:45
marakuyeah! wmutils is awesome22:45
jaegerbut if you run a single command in .xinitrc with exec, X will exit22:45
marakuwhat I have in my .xinitrc is 'exec sxhkd'22:45
jaegermaybe I'm misremembering22:45
jaegerI am, sorry. Ignore me. :)22:46
jaegerthinking of shells, not X22:46
lain_in my xinitrc i now have: "xterm &\n sxhkd"22:46
lain_but alas, nothing :c22:46
pedjacheck the /usr/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc22:47
marakuI actually lied, I have 'exec'22:47
marakuand in
marakubasically a startup script for compton, background, and lemonbar22:47
marakuand of course sxhkd22:48
lain_maraku: where do you keep your
lain_trying to be organised..22:51
marakuI actually just keep a seperate ~/wm folder which I added to $PATH22:52
lain_oh. whell.22:52
marakufor all my little wm scripts (it's in the wm repo above)22:53
jaegeryeah, I'm dumb and have bad memory. I use either 'exec start-mate-session' or 'exec i3', looks like22:53
jaegeror 'exec ck-launch-session i3'22:57
lain_xorg really does not like to stay open withought a windowmanager23:20
z3braI do that all day long23:29
lain_I don't :c23:31
lain_I have no idea what i'm doing23:31
lain_ACTION nervous laughter23:31
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lain_now none of my terminals open c:23:55

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