IRC Logs for #crux Friday, 2016-08-12

Workstercheck all the systems on what kernel you are running00:09
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Romsterlian prt-get readme iwlwifi-3945-ucode02:38
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penguinfanHi Guys07:24
abenzhi penguinfan07:24
penguinfanHi abenz07:26
penguinfanis anyone responsible for the crux git repo available here?07:26
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penguinfanI wanted to discuss the usage of github or gitlab in the future for the main crux repo core/contrib/opt. I think it would make maintaining and collaboration much easier through pull requests07:54
penguinfanIt would make the entire process more transparent as well I think07:59
penguinfanwhat do you guys think?07:59
Romsterwe could probably mirror it there, and you are not the first to suggest this.08:00
Romsteri do keep a mirror of my ports on github08:00
penguinfanHi Romster!08:01
penguinfangreat to hear08:01
penguinfanHow have you been?08:01
Romsterbusy as usual but home now08:02
penguinfansame here ;-)08:03
Romsterthought so 1 hour behind me in japan08:05
penguinfanyes, but I also took off from work today and yesterday was a national holiday, which gives me a nice long weekend08:05
penguinfanso who or how can we further discuss the possibility of using github for the main repos of crux as well? Even a official mirror would suffice since git is able to handle this quite well.08:07
Romsteri would put it on the mailing list so it don't get lost08:11
Romstersince not everyone uses irc08:11
Romsteri git push to two locations just fine.08:12
Romsterand post-receive hooks are handy08:12
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: warzone2100: add missing dependencies: zip and unzip08:59
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rmullpenguinfan: Check out
rmullAnd #6c37 on freenode11:51
rmullThere are a handful of us who are using this as an unendorsed github-based contrib style of repo. There is also a separate repo that has ports that pull from their upstreams' revision control directly for bleeding edge stuff11:52
penguinfanyes I also do that11:53
penguinfanbut what I would like to see are that the maintainers of core/opt/contrib use github to accept changes through it11:53
penguinfaninstead of informing them via the bug tracking system of something that needs changes11:54
penguinfansame for contrib11:54
penguinfanworking with pull requests is far more efficient11:54
onoderayeah, I think that would make the contribution barrier much lower11:54
penguinfanI also shared this through the mailing list for those who are not on IRC as suggested by Romster11:57
joacimi dont think github is a good idea12:32
joacimmake changes to the current repositories, not github or some other not-crux site12:32
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penguinfanwhy not github?13:16
penguinfanthe current repository does not need to go away, its just an interface to manage change via pull requests.13:18
penguinfanif it needs to be onpremise or something we need to control, then gitlab is also an option, also support pull requests and reviews13:19
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: nano: update to 2.6.315:46
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: sqlite3: update to 3.14.115:46
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frinnstI have 0 interest on developing anything on github18:16
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frinnstand whats wrong with patches? I think i've recieved ONE proper port-patch - from pedja18:20
joacimflyspray is no hassle at all18:49
joacimtype shit and hit send18:49
joacimyou will have to type shit and hit send anyways, so why not do it through flyspray. ports are simple enough so they probably dont need patches either18:50
joacimwith exceptions ofc18:51
wildefyrthe ui isn't great18:53
wildefyrthat's my main gripe with it18:54
joacimbetter than github :]18:54
wildefyrACTION shrugs18:54
wildefyrat least github has /usable/ ui18:54
frinnstwhat, flyspray?18:54
wildefyrgitlab's ui is awful though18:54
frinnstsure, its not great but it's so simple it doesnt really need anything else18:55
wildefyrI can understand why people would find it a hassle18:55
joacimi dont see it18:55
wildefyri've never posted anything to it even though I have an account18:55
wildefyrprobably because I haven't encountered any issues :>18:55
joacimadd new task.choose a suitable category and fill inn the summary and details18:56
wildefyrit's also not /amazingly/ pretty18:56
wildefyrfeels like the css is a downgrade after coming from the main site18:56
joacimjust looking at my own github repo, i see no obvious way of reporting issues18:56
wildefyrminor things18:56
joacimit is pretty tho =)18:56
wildefyrthey made it work better for smaller resolutions too so I can have the browser window much less wide18:57
wildefyrappreciate websites that do that18:57
joacimi think flyspray is an upgrade from the main site. the annoying javascript is gone18:58
wildefyrtoo many websites use the full monitor widescreen and then don't work properly after you make the browser half as small18:58
wildefyrACTION shrugs18:58
wildefyrdidn't even notice that the main site used java script18:58
joacimi like to double and tripple-click on things to select text and paragraphs19:00
joacimsince i can do that in my chosen os and browser19:00
wildefyrjesus that needs fixing19:01
wildefyrtime to post of flyspray clearly joacim !19:01
wildefyrthat is awful19:01
wildefyrhow have I not noticed that before?!19:01
wildefyreven on the wiki!19:01
joacimit's not as bad as vimeo or whatever that sends me to their login screen when i hit the keyboard shortcut for modifying the url =)19:01
joacimi mentioned it only once before, but it seemed people thought of it as a feature, and i dont really care too much about the issue =)19:02
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deus_exwhat, exactly, would be the point of Crux repos on Github?22:14
john_cephalopodadeus_ex: People know github.22:15
john_cephalopodaA lot of people are there nearly every day anyway, so they could just look at the crux stuff while being at it.22:16
pedja'know' github?what does taht even mean?use it, have an account? (I don't)22:16
john_cephalopodapedja: Have an account and use it actively.22:17
john_cephalopodaI haven't looked into the crux bugtracker for ages and I doubt that it is ever actually used - while github presents me notifications when I log in. In addition to that, github has hooks, so updates in packages can be displayed via a bot in channel.22:18
pedjawhat is stopping people to make an account on Flyspray, and use that, for , you know, bug reporting?22:19
john_cephalopodaI have reported bugs in the past.22:19
pedjaI see a lot of 'drive-by' bugs (developers looking for more information, but the bug reporter never answers).22:21
pedjaGH will not change that.22:21
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john_cephalopodaWell, I reported one bug and then forgot about it until I got an e-mail notification from flyspray. Then I answered and ran some unsuccessful tests and forgot about it again, since I never actually visit flyspray.22:22
pedjaI visit it more than GH :)22:22
jaegerDifferent people like different things? MADNESS!22:23
pedjajaeger: indeed :)22:23
john_cephalopodajaeger: And nano and geany are the best text editors.22:23
john_cephalopodaYeah, I am myself not quite sure about that github thing.22:24
pedjaand, wouldn't something like gogs be more suitable?22:24
pedjaGitlab is a huge beast.22:25
john_cephalopodaGithub wouldn't be self-hosted.22:25
john_cephalopodaGitlab is a beast, true.22:25
jaegergithub has a self-hosted version but it's not free22:26
john_cephalopodaYeah, it costs some 20$ per month per developer.22:26
john_cephalopoda$21 per user / month22:26
john_cephalopodaHow can I even submit a patch to crux repos?22:28
john_cephalopodaI got a one-liner update for jack122:29
jaegersend the maintainer a diff or pull request22:29
john_cephalopodaThe only change is to update version to "version=0.124.1"22:30
pedjaah, that's jack122:35
john_cephalopodaThe current download doesn't work any more.22:37
pedjasend the patch to the mainatainer, and it'll be updated  when he/she/it gets around to it.22:41
pedjacontrib repo is, by definition, 'best effort'22:42
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pedjaI'll take 'not pretty' Flyspray over Bugzilla any day, tyvm.22:58
pedjathere must be a sane CLI for Bitbucket somewhere, surely?23:00
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john_cephalopodaMmh, bugzilla looks bad.23:09
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