IRC Logs for #crux Friday, 2016-08-19

FaymI'm unable to get dotconf to compile00:07
Faymhttp://pastebin.com/u0MSSaJT00:08
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FaymLooks like bsdtar isn't understanding how to open a .zip, but google says it should?00:15
Faym/bin/bsdtar is a symlink to /bin/tar, which the manpage suggests is GNU tar.  Is that normal?00:15
onoderaFaym: install opt/zip?00:16
FaymIt's installed00:16
FaymIs there a way to tell pkg-add to use that instead of bsdtar?00:18
jaegerFaym: bsdtar should be in /usr/bin rather than /bin and NOT a symlink. looks like you've got something extra installed there00:21
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FaymJust noticed that actually yeah.00:22
FaymNot sure why I had that symlink00:23
Faym:/00:23
FaymWorking now00:23
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rmullRomster: opt/openal 1.15.1 -> 1.17.2 http://kcat.strangesoft.net/openal-releases/openal-soft-1.17.2.tar.bz201:05
rmullAlso, there is a libsdl 2.0.4 available, for which you can use sdl_image 2.0.101:08
rmullOther packages may need to be updated to work with libsdl201:08
Worksterrmull, on my to do list to get sdl2 ports done01:48
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: poppler: update to 0.47.008:34
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: poppler-glib: update to 0.47.008:34
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: poppler-qt4: update to 0.47.008:34
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: [notify] php: update to 5.6.2508:34
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: php-fcgi: update to 5.6.2508:34
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: php-fpm: update to 5.6.2508:34
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: php-ftp: update to 5.6.2508:34
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: php-gd: update to 5.6.2508:34
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: php-gettext: update to 5.6.2508:34
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: php-mysql: update to 5.6.2508:34
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: php-sockets: update to 5.6.2508:34
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: php-sqlite3: update to 5.6.2508:34
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cruxbot[core.git/3.2]: man-db: remove txt and ps documentation09:58
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abenzping Romster16:34
abenzdo you remember the cross compile fail for that one package (hostapd)? I spent hours today trying to nail the issue, it comes down to how the .cflags file is generated.. the Makefile works ok on debian/ubuntu and even OSX, but fails in Crux16:36
abenzI tried on a clean crux install to ensure it wasn't something I did in my environment16:37
abenzunfortunately hostapd has so many variants the makefile is big and all the time spent is figuring out what happens when16:38
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frinnststorage vmotion over 1gbit links.. yuck18:30
jaegereww.18:34
jaegerI made this this week when we were working on VSAN with 10GbE links :) http://imgur.com/HGexFwJ18:35
jaegerstupid but it made me laugh. :)18:36
frinnst:D18:36
frinnstwe dont use jumbo with our nimble san18:37
frinnstthe vendor didnt recommend it18:37
frinnstnot sure why18:37
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abenzwhos the vendor?18:39
abenzI mean what hardware18:39
frinnstnimble18:39
frinnstnot sure what the model is called18:40
frinnstconnected to c7000 with 10gbit blade switches18:40
jaegerjumbo frames are awesome on 10GbE storage links when configured properly18:46
frinnst threshold of high utilization exceeded: current value 117010464.04680818:48
frinnstI dont think that warning will go away anytime soon18:48
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: postresql: 9.5.3 -> 9.5.4, fixes CVE-2016-542319:58
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abenzhow is CPU utilization with 10Gb traffic ?21:05
abenzthe NICs have HW accel but CPU/disk ?21:06
jaegerThere's a fair amount of CPU usage with VSAN since there's also dedup and compression calculation happening21:06
jaegerbut it's not heavy for our workloads21:06
abenzpower consumption (GbE) is also much higher than fiber based links21:06
jaegerthese are fiber but I've been saying 10GbE just because it's recognizable21:07
jaegerNot technically incorrect, though I guess it can confuse some people21:08
abenzah21:08
jaeger(because ethernet can use copper or fiber)21:08
abenzwould you consider it a good investment (10GbE) for your environment?21:08
abenzops21:08
abenzI mean justified21:08
jaegerFor us? Definitely.21:09
frinnst10gbit is critical for storage21:09
abenzfor those peak/spike transfers or consistent?21:09
abenzyea I guess in a production house it'd make a lot of sense21:09
jaegerboth, really. In the case of VSAN your "disk io" is also over those 10GbE links21:10
frinnstChelsio Dualport 10Gbe 110-1088-30 SFP pci-e21:10
frinnst995SEK21:10
frinnsti REALLY want to order two of those21:10
frinnstoh wow, including sfp21:11
jaegerusing intel x520 here21:11
frinnsthttp://www.tradera.com/item/121401/260040435/chelsio-dualport-10gbe-110-1088-30-sfp-pci-e-inkl-moms21:11
frinnstporn21:11
frinnstwould be awesome to run 10gbit at home21:12
abenzhttp://my-netdata.io/21:12
abenzwould be great to see some graphs of a 10GbE environment21:13
jaegerWe're running an all-flash VSAN setup so 10GbE is definitely a requirement. each host currently has 2x 800GB SSD and 4x 1.6TB SSD split into 2 disk groups each21:13
abenzpricey setup21:13
abenzwhat brand SSDs?21:14
jaegerIt has been a little expensive but they were running on vmware essentials licenses with no shared storage before I joined21:14
frinnstIntel X520-DA2 2x10GB E10G42BTDA pci-e21:15
frinnst1 995 kr21:15
frinnstMUST..NOT..BUY21:15
jaegerIntel DC S3600 or S3700 series, I don't remember which21:15
abenzfrinnst: if you actually need it why not?21:15
jaegerI think 3610s21:16
frinnstI dont21:16
abenzbut if you dont.. do as I did, I wanted an RX480 when they came out, after a week or so, no longer want to buy it21:16
jaegerfor ~16TB capacity21:16
abenzso just wait it out :)21:16
frinnstI dont have any switches. but i'd love some fibre in my apartment :>21:17
frinnst28 more servers to move over 1gbit21:20
frinnstthis requires beer21:20
crash_28 servers still at work?21:21
frinnstvpn from home :>21:21
crash_ah :)21:21
crash_work + beer is a nice combo21:21
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abenzfrinnst: openvpn? some people I know still use (and ask for) pptp ...21:47
abenzwhy? because its built into windows and easy to use21:47
abenzdoesn't get easier then a config file you double click after installing a program, but hey..21:47
frinnstnah, some cisco ssl-vpn21:53
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