| Workster | once you bot the cd and mount /mnt and after setup and chrooting into your crux install... then you can configure stuff and build the kernel you can get the network up there if you really need too. | 00:00 |
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| weabot | I'm doing the setup right now | 00:01 |
| Workster | though i try to delay that until after installing the boot loader kernel configuration and reboot to the installed system | 00:01 |
| weabot | oh wow firefox is at 48 | 00:02 |
| weabot | you're literally ahead of ubuntu | 00:03 |
| weabot | is the updated installer automatically made? | 00:06 |
| maraku | funtoo was fun, but dep resolution took at least a quarter of the time | 00:07 |
| Workster | firefox is updated though prt-get sysup/update firefox | 00:08 |
| weabot | oh yeah dep resolution is a pain | 00:08 |
| Workster | prt-get diff will list differences after a ports -u | 00:08 |
| weabot | I don't mind it though I only update like once a week | 00:08 |
| Workster | prt-get deptree firefox | 00:08 |
| Workster | prt-get handles most cases | 00:08 |
| weabot | except for lately where I've been spamming emerge --sync && emerge -avuDNU @world in anticipation for plasma 5.8 | 00:08 |
| Workster | and i am forever checking dependences to make sure everything is listed | 00:09 |
| weabot | Workster I'll get into that in due time | 00:09 |
| weabot | for now it's chroot time :) | 00:09 |
| Workster | well we have a kf5 repo for kde if youwant to try that. but i don't know how well it is | 00:09 |
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| Workster | https://github.com/tsaop/crux-kf5 | 00:10 |
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| Workster | also have mate that's not listed there too. | 00:10 |
| Workster | https://github.com/KrugerHeavyIndustries/crux-mate a bit old now | 00:11 |
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| weabot | I really like the fstab that comes with it | 00:13 |
| weabot | it's so convenient | 00:13 |
| weabot | locale-gen doesn't work, how would I generate the locales? | 00:18 |
| weabot | is localedef enough? | 00:18 |
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| weabot | does crux not need an initramfs? | 00:57 |
| onodera | nah not really | 01:02 |
| weabot | great one less worry then | 01:02 |
| onodera | since initramfs is really only something you need if you use some pre build kernel | 01:02 |
| onodera | and yeah localedef is enough, there is a part about it in the handbook | 01:03 |
| weabot | yeah but it's really small and only about the swedish locale | 01:03 |
| weabot | which I can't relate to lol | 01:04 |
| weabot | but I think it's fine the way I did it | 01:04 |
| onodera | yeah replece se_SE or whatever the handbook using with en_US or whatever you use | 01:05 |
| weabot | I downloaded the mainline kernel from kernel.org in attempt to use that because I already have a kernel 4.7 config that's not compatible with a 4.4 one | 01:06 |
| weabot | but it doesn't seem to want to build | 01:06 |
| weabot | it seems to be compiling fine but after it's compiled there's just nothing | 01:07 |
| weabot | none of the files I'm expecting to be there | 01:07 |
| onodera | how do you mean | 01:08 |
| weabot | I do clean, distclean, make, all that right | 01:09 |
| weabot | and everything goes fine | 01:09 |
| onodera | running make modules_install && make install | 01:09 |
| onodera | should just work | 01:09 |
| weabot | but after that there's just nothing in there | 01:09 |
| weabot | it doesn't | 01:09 |
| weabot | it says that there's no makefile in arch/x86/ | 01:09 |
| weabot | and I looked to see if there's something i could copy | 01:09 |
| weabot | nothing | 01:09 |
| onodera | seems like a problem with the kernel source you downloaded | 01:09 |
| weabot | no bzimage no system.map | 01:09 |
| weabot | I got it straight from kernel.org though | 01:09 |
| onodera | have you tried running make install | 01:10 |
| weabot | of course | 01:10 |
| weabot | it's the first thing I did | 01:10 |
| onodera | try make all again? | 01:10 |
| onodera | maybe you ran make clean or something my accident | 01:10 |
| weabot | I ran make at least 4 times | 01:10 |
| weabot | I don't do make all though | 01:10 |
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| jaeger | druid_droid: try prtwash if you didn't already find that | 02:55 |
| jaeger | Workster: https://github.com/mhoush/crux-mate/ for reference | 02:57 |
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| Workster | oh yours was older than the other one last i looked jaeger i'll update that url on my site too. | 03:46 |
| jaeger | I think mine's always been ahead of the main repo | 03:49 |
| jaeger | I don't have the updated link on my landing page, though | 03:51 |
| jaeger | I should fix that | 03:51 |
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| Workster | that would be helpful being on the landing page | 04:57 |
| cruxbot | [contrib.git/3.2]: spm: update to 1.4.7 | 05:29 |
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| frinnst | -rwxrwxrwx | 12:42 |
| frinnst | ahhh, developers | 12:42 |
| nwe | suck..... | 12:42 |
| nwe | take your laptop with you on conference or not.. | 12:44 |
| onodera | z3bra: how come your httpup ports are newer than the ones in your git? | 12:55 |
| retard | developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers | 12:55 |
| teK_ | ACTION jumps on the stage like a monkey | 12:56 |
| z3bra | onodera, cause they are generated from git. | 13:02 |
| retard | i don't get it | 13:03 |
| frinnst | the original is always older? | 13:46 |
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| deus_ex | FF-49.0 didn't break any of my addons.nice job, Mozilla. | 15:21 |
| deus_ex | https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-08/cisco-s-network-bugs-are-front-and-center-in-bankruptcy-fight | 15:22 |
| pedja | 4 million $/month contract?ouch. | 15:26 |
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| onodera | So i have crux on my vps | 17:43 |
| onodera | and wanna switch from a hdd to ssd vps (both on vultr), can I just rsync my current vps to my local computer | 17:44 |
| onodera | buy the ssd vps, and rsync all the files back? | 17:44 |
| newbie-- | isnt there a uid for the hdd somewhere in the boot process? | 18:09 |
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| newbie-- | and what about MBR or similar | 18:13 |
| newbie-- | that wont get copied with rsync | 18:13 |
| newbie-- | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table | 18:15 |
| newbie-- | my suggestion is that you try this in a test environment and maybe try using dd instead of rsync | 18:16 |
| newbie-- | dd will copy from your source drive on a block level instead of logical level | 18:17 |
| newbie-- | with dd you are cloning the disk | 18:17 |
| newbie-- | another option is to take a backup for example using rsync, then reinstall crux on your new VPS with SSD, and finally read back some files from your backup. | 18:19 |
| retard | depends on your bootloader | 18:28 |
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| onodera | hmm I'll just reinstall | 18:35 |
| jaeger | Does vultr have some way to migrate from one type to another? some providers can do that for you | 18:36 |
| onodera | nah probably not | 18:37 |
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| onodera | since I'm using a custom iso (crux), and xfs and all | 18:38 |
| onodera | ill google tho | 18:38 |
| onodera | they have snapshots but snapshots only work with SSD vps's | 18:38 |
| onodera | and I have a hdd one atm | 18:38 |
| ][_R_][ | Once you have a fresh install you can always just copy everything except /boot/ over (though you will need to copy the kernel, and initramfs if any) | 18:43 |
| ][_R_][ | fstab might need to be adjusted as well. | 18:43 |
| ssf | hello. I've tried installing tcpdump with 'prt-get install tcpdump'. It's getting an error on configure: configure: error: see the INSTALL doc for more info | 18:45 |
| ssf | is this a known problem? | 18:45 |
| pedja | ssf: try 'prt-get depinst tcpdump' | 18:51 |
| ssf | pedja: thank you. that did the trick (to install libpcap before) | 18:53 |
| ssf | shouldn't prt-get install resolve dependencies and install them as needed? | 18:54 |
| nwe | ssf: nope, thatś what depinst does.. | 18:56 |
| nwe | prt-get install package only install the package itself.. | 18:56 |
| nwe | prt-get depinst = installing dependencies + package. | 18:56 |
| ssf | great. I actually like to have those two separated | 18:57 |
| ssf | gives finer control :) | 18:57 |
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| ][_R_][ | ACTION has yet to see a situation where you'd ever want install over depinst | 19:09 |
| ][_R_][ | Maybe if you had a non-package version of the dependency... but why not just make a custom package? | 19:10 |
| ssf | yeah, that would be a case. It would however be much cleaner as you suggest, by creating a custom package | 19:15 |
| ][_R_][ | What other cases are there? | 19:16 |
| ssf | can't think of any right now, but then why doesn't install install dependencies? | 19:29 |
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| ][_R_][ | My best guess is install was implimented long before depinst was. | 19:30 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.2]: freetype: update to 2.7 | 19:33 |
| cruxbot | [xfce.git/3.2]: garcon: fixed deps | 19:39 |
| cruxbot | [xfce.git/3.2]: xfce4-settings: update to 4.12.1 | 19:39 |
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| rmull | Just out of curiosity - why might firefox show up in the revdep of one crux system but not the other? | 20:25 |
| rmull | Even after rebuilding | 20:25 |
| rmull | The system on which firefox appears also has the system python changed to be python3 - does that matter though? | 20:26 |
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| frinnst | no, it always has | 22:13 |
| frinnst | check it with -vvv | 22:14 |
| frinnst | iirc I commited a cosmetic fix for that long ago but reverted it | 22:15 |
| frinnst | add /usr/lib/firefox to /etc/ld.so.conf (or create a file in /etc/ld.so.conf.d) | 22:16 |
| jaeger | one system probably has a /etc/revdep.d/firefox file with /usr/lib/firefox in it, the other not | 22:18 |
| pedja | so, frinnst, have you fixed your fonts yet :) ? | 22:24 |
| frinnst | using your config. good enough :) | 22:24 |
| frinnst | but too fuzzy for my liking but most fonts look fine | 22:24 |
| frinnst | thanks again btw :) | 22:26 |
| pedja | np :) | 22:27 |
| pedja | some fonts look better than others, so you might want to experiment a bit | 22:27 |
| pedja | maybe something like this http://input.fontbureau.com/ ? | 22:29 |
| pedja | 168 styles :) | 22:30 |
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