IRC Logs for #crux Thursday, 2016-09-22

Workster uploading00:39
abenzWorkster / Romster cheers for your considerate touches00:40
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joacimtempted to get the one with switches by fuhua02:06
jaegerI've no experience with those, are they good?02:07
joacimno idea02:07
joacimi like the vintage keycaps more tho, but the fuhua ones only come with blacks02:07
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brian|lfswow CRUX bot is busy today02:39
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frinnstjoacim: that looks mighty nice07:36
frinnstbut if you want the vintage caps you are very limited to mx switches07:36
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frinnst"apt search" is sooooo useful09:32
frinnst300 hits for everything you try09:32
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frinnstLove when web developers develop a site to run under php 5.4 or older only09:51
frinnst.. and you have to debug php 5.4 errors and hit mailinglist posts from 200809:52
ryu0frinnst: do you know of any web developer that actually can use php correctly? seems all too often they're totally clueless about backend details.09:53
frinnstim trying to piece together this horrible project. codebase is from 2010 or so, "upgraded" (but not really) a few weeks ago09:54
frinnststill depends on old versions09:55
ryu0frinnst: sounds like what you'd expect from old software that isn't maintained.09:55
ryu0to some degree C/C++ can be effected if ABIs have changed since it was written.09:55
ryu0but i imagine it's probably worse.09:56
ryu0transitioning to newer library APIs is usually not a huge problem...09:56
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retardryu0: considering the attitude of the person who created php, i don't really think there is such a thing as using it "correctly"10:43
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: imagemagick: update to 6.9.5-1010:58
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: squid: update to 3.5.2110:58
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frinnstwow, amdgpu "just works" more or less14:08
frinnstpro tip: dont load the wrong dri driver with the kernel14:08
frinnstand opt/linux-firmware does not contain up2date firmware for polaris14:09
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joacimwhich card?14:13
frinnstrx 47014:13
frinnstfan is quiet too. When i booted with my old dri driver it spun up to full speed14:14
frinnstgot me worried for a minute or two :>14:14
joacimwas thinking about the r7 25014:14
joacimpassive sub-75W card that seems to support 4k over displayport14:15
frinnsttoo few ports for me. feels good to use 2*DP instead of 1*DP, 1*DVI14:17
joacimcant find any other low power card that nouveau or amdgpu supports14:18
frinnstisnt nouveau pretty shit still?14:22
joacimworks ok for my geforce 7600 gt =)14:22
joacimgood enough for minecraft at least14:22
frinnstoh cool14:23
joacimmost rx 460 cards only have one dp too :(14:23
frinnstyeah thats why i bought 47014:23
jaegerhow's the performance with amdgpu?14:31
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frinnst2d feels snappy :)15:00
frinnstdunno, havent tried anything yet. phoronix had some benchmars iirc15:00
ssfI'm having a problem trying to compile dconf (when it tries to make 'docs'). Here's the paste:
ssfdoes anyone know what could be the problem there?15:02
jaegerlooks like the usual docbook brokenness. docbook is voodoo15:22
jaegerI know that's not too helpful, unfortunately15:23
ssfis there any workaround for this?15:24
jaegerWhich MATE repo are you using?15:24
ssfi think your's15:24
wildefyrjaeger, 3d is probably still poor15:25
wildefyrnot sure how it compares to catalyst though15:25
jaegerssf: no guaranteed workaround I know of but you might try uninstalling the docbook ports, removing /etc/xml, and reinstalling them15:25
joacimgood enough for quake 3 at least?15:25
ssfgonna try that. thanks!15:25
jaegerI'll try building MATE in a clean environment, see if I run into it as well15:26
ssfgreat! thank you!15:26
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ssfhave tried compiling dconf on another crux machine, ran into the same problem16:04
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jaegerssf: my clean environment built it without trouble, not sure what to tell you16:40
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jaegerssf: <-- /etc/xml/catalog and /etc/xml/docbook-xml for reference/comparison16:43
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ssfok, gonna try those. Thanks a lot jaeger17:23
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ssfjaeger: finally, I was able to build dconf. I was actually missing the catalog file, which I created by following blfs18:56
ssfnot sure why i didn't have it. If docbook-xsl was supposed to install that catalog file, it didn't. Had to generate it 'by hand'18:57
jaegersounds like maybe you missed running the post-install scripts for docbook-x{m,s}l then18:57
ssfoh.. there it is. Yup, didn't run it, ergo I didn't have a catalog file18:59
ssfthanks for your help!18:59
jaegerwelcome :)18:59
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: tcsh: move man-pages, some fixes from git, remove compiler warnings19:07
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cruxbot[core.git/3.2]: [notify] openssl: updated to 1.0.2i.20:02
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: btrfs-progs: updated to 4.7.320:32
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: libjpeg-turbo: updated to 1.5.120:32
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