IRC Logs for #crux Friday, 2016-09-23

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cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.2]: gnutls-32: 3.4.14 -> 3.4.1501:54
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.2]: gtk-32: 2.24.30 -> 2.24.3101:54
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.2]: harfbuzz-32: 1.3.0 -> 1.3.101:54
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.2]: sqlite3-32: 3.14.1 -> 3.14.201:54
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.2]: util-linux-32: 2.28.1 -> 2.28.201:54
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pseudonymousAny crux'ers who use FreeBSD and/or Slackware ? Care to compare and contrast ?09:04
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frinnstpseudonymous: I used to use slackware before switching to crux09:51
frinnstthey are pretty similar. You'll find crux a lot more familiar switching from slackware than say, debian09:52
frinnstWhen i switched Pat was pretty much the only maintainer and he was sick at the time09:52
frinnstslackware looks a lot more healthy these days09:53
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pseudonymousfrinnst: do you write ports yourself ? And how manageable is that ? I'm hoping it's not much different from just compiling by hand (tried my hand at deb & rpm packaging before and it was hellish)10:51
retardpseudonymous: it is very simple :)10:53
retardi often make a port instead of compiling something myself, because it's so simple10:53
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pseudonymousretard: Between the statement and your username, I'm convinced :P Crux seems to be exactly my cup of tea (well, I would've preferred even more of a carbon-copy of FreeBSD but... ;P))11:34
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.2]: atk-32: 2.20.0 -> 2.22.011:42
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.2]: freetype-32: 2.6.5 -> 2.711:42
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.2]: glib-32: 2.48.2 -> 2.50.011:42
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.2]: libjpeg-turbo-32: 1.5.0 -> 1.5.111:42
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.2]: openssl-32: 1.0.2h -> 1.0.2i11:42
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.2]: pango-32: 1.40.2 -> 1.40.311:42
][_R_][Why not stay with FreeBSD?  (Legitimately curious)11:44
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: harfbuzz-icu: 1.3.0 -> 1.3.111:44
pseudonymousI'm only starting out with FreeBSD (as In, I did my last install yesterday). I've been a Linux user for a long time. Mainly though, I'm considering Crux also as my alternative for when I need a Linux kernel (think hardware support)11:48
pseudonymousWhile FreeBSD is great, it seems like most of its userbase use it for servers only. Many (if not most) seem to run OSX, some even Windows, on their desktops - and that's just something I have a hard time understanding ;)11:49
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deus_expseudonymous: some run TrueOS (formerly PC-BSD) :)12:08
deus_exI haven't played with it yet.12:08
ryu0pseudonymous: in some respects dragonfly bsd has better hardware support than freebsd.12:13
ryu0graphics at least it seems.12:13
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pseudonymousdeus_ex: (cool name, btw) - TrueOS is really just FreeBSD plus a few convenience apps, the Mint to Ubuntu. So wrt. hardware support, it's just as good  (read: bad :S)12:57
pseudonymousryu0: yes, it seems interesting, they even seemed to do some work on porting Wayland at some point.12:58
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rmullI watched netflix in firefox on linux... I feel dirty13:09
frinnstpseudonymous: yeah I maintain core (along with jue and jaeger) and a few other ports in opt13:11
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pedjapseudonymous: since TrueOS tracks -current, one can argue that it has better hw support than FreeBSD-proper :)13:24
pedjableeding edge has its pros and cons13:25
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pseudonymouspedja: yea true. I'd still just run FreeBSD current myself though. I just can't run something called TrueOS ;)13:31
pedjait's an iXSystems thing ;)13:31
pedjaTrueNAS, TrueOS13:32
pseudonymousStill sounds like a religion ;)13:33
pedja'one TrueOS to bind them all' :)13:35
joacimdevelopers and maintainers have similar personalities to terry a. davis i suppose13:36
frinnstisnt trueos the new name for pc-bsd or whatever they called it?13:39
pedjayes13:40
jaegeryeah, pedja mentioned that13:40
pedjalistening Pendulum and washing the windows?bad idea.13:42
pseudonymousOut of (lazy) interest? What are the crux-specific tools written in ? (I see the http://paste.lisp.org link in the MOTD, one can hope)13:42
pedjahttps://crux.nu/gitweb/13:46
pedjapkgutils/prt-utils13:47
onoderamost are bash13:51
onoderaI'm pretty sure pkgadd is c or something though13:51
onoderaprt-get is c++13:52
jaegerpkgutils is c++ with some bash13:55
jaegerpseudonymous: if you think TrueOS sounds like a religion, look up TempleOS :)14:16
xeirrrTrueOS lets me wonder other OSes are fake.14:41
pseudonymousAll the others, convert, ye heathen!14:57
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dxtrYay compiling the kernel over and over again18:30
dxtrbisecting drm-intel-nightly18:31
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