IRC Logs for #crux Friday, 2016-10-07

cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: ntfs-3g: 2015.3.14 -> 2016.2.2200:07
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: testdisk: 6.14 -> 7.000:07
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darfoteK_: not sure I understand the question.03:44
darfoin Bourne Shell and bash the value is the return from the last command in the pipeline.03:45
darfo$ if false | true ; then echo yes; else echo no; fi03:47
darfoyes03:47
darfo$ if true | false ; then echo yes; else echo no; fi03:47
darfono03:47
ryu0darfo: double bars. that's a pipe.03:57
][_R_][ryu0: Yes, that's what the question was about.03:57
][_R_][<teK_> do you happen to know if there is any god way in to chck for a pipe's return statement without bashisms or zshisms?03:58
][_R_][<teK_> ie. if cmd1 | cmd2 ; then ..03:58
][_R_][<teK_> only thing I found is that zsh does the right thing checking for that or bash using PIPESTATUS(?) ; I dont want to do x=$(..) and check for that afterwards..03:58
darforyu0: double bars is an 'or' test03:58
ryu0oh.03:59
ryu0i thought you were going for something else. nvm04:00
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brian|lfshello all04:07
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brian|lfshey jaeger you around04:09
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jaegersorta04:53
brian|lfsyou use kodi alot04:53
brian|lfsjust installed it the other day04:53
brian|lfsseems pretty cool so far04:54
brian|lfsjust was curious what repos you use04:54
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jaegeryeah, I use it all the time as my HTPC05:19
jaegerI usually just use the core, opt, contrib, xorg, and my own repo, plus one extra dir in my home for random ports05:22
jaegersometimes MATE05:22
brian|lfshuh I meant Kodi repos lol05:48
brian|lfsomfg05:48
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crash_jaeger: about the problem i had about grub-install, i used the 3.2 release iso instead and then i could install grub :)08:58
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piecesofquietls11:17
ryu0ACTION enumerates all the people in the channel.11:19
piecesofquieti wasn't paying to attention to which window i was in, don't bully me11:21
retardryu0: http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/stop/11:22
ryu0...11:22
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Romsterrofl11:35
Romster.11:36
Romster..11:36
Romsteroops_i_did_it_again11:36
Romster3 files found11:36
ryu0Romster: http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/stop/ :P11:36
Romsteroh come on xD11:37
Romsterwe aren't mean here we know how to take a joke.11:37
ryu0not everyone apparently.11:37
ryu0i've made similar mistakes, but whatever.11:37
Romsterin this channel where we state in the topic ... oh we don't state in the topic nevermind11:38
Romsterwe don't actually say it's a experienced linux distro11:39
Romsterpiecesofquiet, it's fine you did that just don't type passwords in irc :)11:40
ryu0he already left.11:40
Romsteryes and irc logs in topic11:41
frinnst2"ls" isnt that bad11:54
frinnst2i've given my root pw on #crux a few years ago11:54
Romsteri've given out my irc password once11:59
Romstersince then i always used the server window.11:59
Romsterand then i automated it in the client.11:59
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onodera /join #sourcemage13:14
onoderawoops13:14
pedjaCrux would be ideal for this http://blog.liw.fi/posts/minipc-router/13:14
pedjaand I like that 'tiny PC' has twice the cores and ram that my desktop machine has.13:15
onoderaO'13:15
onoderaI'd use alpine for that13:15
onoderamusl, alpine, libressl, stack protector and grsec kernel by default13:16
onoderaalso an option to run it from ram13:16
pedjathis is #crux, so :)13:16
pedjaj/k/you are right, alpine is cool13:17
onoderaI'm pretty sure that 130 dollar tiny pc is better than my full blown computer lol13:17
onoderaI still don't have an ssd "/13:17
pedjawhen did alpine switch to libressl?13:18
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onoderahttps://bugs.alpinelinux.org/issues/497013:18
onoderaseems like the end of 201513:18
pedja"% Done: 0".Errr13:20
pedjaah, that's for 3.5.current is 3.4.413:20
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pedjaI really should make an alpine VM to play with.13:24
onoderait's a joy to install13:25
onoderait's so so easy, they have this really nice cli where you can specify options and then it installs everything for you13:26
onoderawithout loosing to much control, it's also possible to do everything manually13:26
pedjatheir wiki is pretty good.13:27
pedjaso many VMs, so liitle RAM.13:29
onoderaI wanna try out source mage13:31
onoderabut I'm also lazy...13:31
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pedjasourcemage?so you want to be a wizard, and cast spells?13:33
pedjayou are still waiting for letter from Hogwarts, or what?13:34
pedjathat particular owl is partying hard somewhere, drunk out of its little mind, I think13:35
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onoderapedja: just dropped in the channel to ask some questions about the distro13:46
onoderareally friendly people, and I love the whole magic theme they have going on lol13:47
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pedjahow come no one packaged strongswan yet?17:35
abenzits obsolete?17:47
abenzopenvpn is the way to go17:47
jaegercrash_: good to know, thanks17:47
abenzunless you have no choice..17:48
frinnstipsec obsolete? adorable17:55
abenzwell, perhaps superseded is the better term17:56
abenznot to mentioned its authored by you know who17:58
abenzhttps://www.bestvpn.com/blog/4147/pptp-vs-l2tp-vs-openvpn-vs-sstp-vs-ikev2/17:58
pedjahttps://nohats.ca/wordpress/blog/2014/12/29/dont-stop-using-ipsec-just-yet/18:03
crash_jaeger: Np :)18:04
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pedjatl;dr : if you configure it properly, you're safe (probably).but that is true for every internet facing service :)18:07
pedja"Besides attacks on PSKs, the main attack vector on an IPsec server is compromising the host"18:09
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pedjathat is from https://wiki.strongswan.org/projects/strongswan/wiki/SecurityRecommendations18:11
abenzyou can see the +s and -s in the link I posted18:11
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teK_https://twitter.com/bagrow/status/784066050941943808/photo/119:56
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pedjacan I somehow disable extracting the source in the Pkgfile?23:12
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teK_best guess: stip the archive-looking suffix from the file, rename it / copy it afterwards23:14
jaegeror override the unpack_source function or whatever it's called23:16
jaegerNot something I'd recommend doing regularly but it's an option23:28
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pedja'tarball=$PKGMK_SOURCE_DIR/$name-$version.tar.xz', and passing $tarball as an argumnet seems to work :)23:46
pedjanot too elegant, but23:47
pedjathanks for the tips, btw23:54

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