IRC Logs for #crux Monday, 2016-12-12

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john_cephalopodasaintromuald: And packages have to be built. There are no binary packages in crux.00:17
john_cephalopodasaintromuald: The so-called "ports", files with build instructions in them, are downloaded. When you want to install a program, the source code is downloaded, compiled and installed.00:18
john_cephalopodasaintromuald: There are also other differences in paradigms and standard tools, but those generally differ between most distros.00:18
saintromualdjohn_cephalopoda, kk got it00:20
teK_the configuration is bsd/rc-style and we dont have systemd. Please check the website for more details.00:20
jaegerthe package tools do build binary packages which can be installed separately, technically00:21
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saintromualdjaeger, wait what do you mean there are binary packages? But they are done separate or what?02:14
jaegerpkgmk creates binary packages based on the instructions in a Pkgfile. pkgadd installs said binary packages02:16
jaegerprt-get is a wrapper for pkgmk/pkgadd with some extra features02:16
jaegerThe binary packages are simple tarballs without metadata of any kind. You can copy them to another machine and run pkgadd there, for example, but that doesn't track dependencies or the like02:19
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saintromualdjaeger, got it thanks.03:17
jaegerwelcome03:22
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SiFuhTimes are tough when you must make your own soldering iron tips :-(04:45
jaegerdoh04:48
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SiFuhlatest stable kernel is 4.9 hmm05:07
SiFuhmust be a christmas present05:07
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abenzwaiting for it to be officially designated as an LTS06:04
SiFuhhttps://lwn.net/Articles/648400/06:38
SiFuhthose whom are interesting in GreyBus06:38
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brian|lfsam I here still06:57
SiFuhyes06:59
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SiFuh_jaeger: had to inster the line  'autoreconf -i -f' in the Pkgfile for vorbis-tools before ./configure.... to be able to get it to compile.08:02
SiFuh_inster/insert08:02
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cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.2]: cairo-32: 1.14.6 -> 1.14.808:25
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.2]: dbus-32: 1.10.12 -> 1.10.1408:25
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.2]: harfbuzz-32: 1.3.3 -> 1.3.408:25
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.2]: libdrm-32: 2.4.73 -> 2.4.7408:25
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.2]: libgpg-error-32: 1.24 -> 1.2508:25
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.2]: mesa3d-32: 12.0.4 -> 12.0.508:25
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.2]: sqlite3-32: 3.15.1 -> 3.15.208:25
brian|lfswhy we updating 3.2 all the time its time to move to 3.3 lol08:29
brian|lfsmakes me want to downgrade back to 3.2 lol08:30
abenzAFAIK even after release of 3.x+1, 3.x gets updated for a while08:31
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emmett1guys, how to change brightness?13:01
SiFuh_   assuming a notebook. what brand and model?13:03
emmett1its a netbook13:03
emmett1and made by my country13:04
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emmett1so i dont know what model13:04
emmett1i try xbacklight, but nothing happen13:05
retardecho 100 > /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness or similar13:07
emmett1why value on my  /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness so high?13:08
emmett1cat /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness13:08
emmett1937413:08
retardbecause you have lots of levels13:12
emmett1changing its value does nothing13:13
retarddoes it update? do you have other folders in /sys/class/backlight?13:15
emmett1no, only have intel_backlight folder13:17
SiFuh_so your country doesn't exist, guess it is time for a revolution.13:18
emmett1SiFuh_, yeah its exist, if not, where i am now, moon?13:19
SiFuh_underneath your netbook will be some information  serial, model, brand13:20
SiFuh_let us know what you have, 'my country' isn't an answer13:21
emmett1ok13:21
emmett1its Komputer 1 Malaysia13:21
SiFuh_wow my country13:22
SiFuh_Malaysia13:22
emmett1yeah thats my country13:22
emmett1u know?13:22
SiFuh_yes I know I live in Bukit Segar13:23
emmett1betul ke dok ni?13:23
SiFuh_visiting australia, my parents13:23
SiFuh_I am not malay13:23
emmett1so u cant understand malay?13:24
SiFuh_nope :-P13:24
SiFuh_gampang13:25
emmett1what is gampang?13:25
SiFuh_you will figure it out13:25
emmett1haha13:25
emmett1i know that13:25
emmett1so whats your nationalism?13:26
SiFuh_not have13:26
SiFuh_which state you from?13:26
emmett1somewhere anywhere13:26
emmett1:)13:26
SiFuh_<- selangor13:27
emmett1really?13:27
SiFuh_yes and Melor KB13:27
john_cephalopodaemmett1: There is also xbacklight13:27
SiFuh_and Temerloh Pahang13:27
SiFuh_but now Selangor13:27
john_cephalopodaemmett1: "xbacklight set 23" where 23 is the percentage13:28
SiFuh_backlight13:28
john_cephalopodaemmett1: Oops, didn't read what you wrote.13:28
emmett1john_cephalopoda, xbacklight value changed but brightness not change13:29
john_cephalopodaYeah. I only saw your first question but didn't continue reading.13:29
SiFuh_i am really sorry Computer 1 is very very very bad13:29
SiFuh_and no one, not even me, will be able to explain its inner functions.13:30
SiFuh_last one I was asked to fix (not install software) I just toss in rubbish13:30
SiFuh_they are really cheap junk..13:30
emmett1SiFuh_, yeah, bcoz its not a famous brand13:30
emmett1even in windows cant change the brightness13:31
SiFuh_it uses parts of famous brands and not-famous brands13:31
SiFuh_its basically a hybrid, a frankenstein13:32
emmett1yeah frankenstein maybe13:33
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john_cephalopoda*Frankenstein's Monster - Frankenstein was just the scientist who created the monster out of body parts. ;)13:36
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SiFuh_He was Chinese?13:37
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SiFuh_ok sorry NEC?13:38
SiFuh_thanks johnny octopus13:41
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jaegerSiFuh_: noted, but you should email the maintainer14:43
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tsaophello all19:39
tsaopit seems the gnupg package needs python3 now19:40
tsaopsolved with --enable-languages=cpp,qt19:48
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pedjawhy do you think it needs python3?19:57
pedjaand I don't see that configure switch in 'configure --help' for gnupg20:01
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: git: 2.10.2 -> 2.11.020:57
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pedjasometimes slow hardware can prevent you from making a big mistake...21:43
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SiFuh_emmett1_: hows the number 1 netbook going?22:36
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: mercurial: 3.8.2 -> 4.0.123:33
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.2]: redis: 3.2.5 -> 3.2.623:36
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