IRC Logs for #crux Thursday, 2017-01-05

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vstevewhat special considerations need to be made when compiling a kernel that's intented to boot from an IDE drive?00:03
vsteveI keep getting kernel panics on boot, I've got the file system of the device built-in, all the reasonable ATA stuff I could find and I enabled the platform device driver which is needed for booting from a CF card (which I'm doing)00:05
vsteveonce upon a time I got crux 2.8 to boot on this device, now it's on a new motherboard and I thought i'd upgrade, but so far I haven't had any luck rebooting00:06
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jaegerIf you're using libata (which you should) you still need scsi and scsi disk support, are those enabled?00:09
vsteveI think so, double checking...00:11
jaegerI've got to go for now but will be back later00:13
vsteveok thanks00:13
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brian|lfsyou have all your stuff straight in the kernel no modules00:19
brian|lfsalso try different device nodes they can change on reboots00:19
vsteveno modules, check00:21
vstevedifferent nodes...I think i'm ok there00:21
vsteveeach time I boot into the crux install media, it's always sda100:22
vstevehuh...and now I'm getting ATA errors when I chroot into the device00:24
vsteve"read dma00:24
vsteveugh, "read dma" is failing several times00:24
vstevetime to abandon ship?00:24
brian|lfslol00:27
brian|lfsnot sure00:27
marakualso, Romster did upload the latest chromium brian|lfs00:27
john_cephalopodaI had a lot of problems with chromium.00:31
john_cephalopodaI guess I'll have to compile my kernel with shm next time.00:33
brian|lfsah ok when I looked earlier I only saw 5500:36
Worksterbrian|lfs, yes i have you can find them in http://crux.ster.zone/packages/00:37
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onoderaanyone else getting "Error code: NS_ERROR_NET_INADEQUATE_SECURITY" with firefox?00:40
vsteveI've never once had chromium build correctly in crux00:43
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Worksterchromium does need shm support to work and an entry in fstab for shm00:52
onoderahttp2 pages no longer loaded for me with an NS_ERROR_NET_INADEQUATE_SECURITY error, does anyone know what causes this00:55
onoderadisabling http2 support in firefox "fixes" it..00:55
Worksteryes the site you're accessing needs to update there ssl certificate version00:57
Worksteryou just made your browser less secure00:57
onoderait's literally all sites that use http2 though00:58
onoderaexamples: google, youtube, my own website00:58
onoderaso it's probably something that's wrong on my end00:59
Worksteri only got it on some old DVR01:00
onoderaI'm 99% sure the recent nss update caused it...01:01
vsteveI think my CF card just died, I just installed Crux on a sata drive in record time on the same system01:05
vstevebbl, returning an 8gb cf card to the dust from which it came01:06
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onoderaye downgrading nss fixed it as well01:08
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onoderahmm Librsvg 2.41.0 now has rust code in it01:59
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brian|lfsAny ideas why I was having issues with Zlib Romster only thing I could think tied into too many applications02:11
Worksterpossibly something else in core needs rebuilding brian|lfs02:12
brian|lfshmm I did check the source code that file wasn't in the source code it was trying to delete02:13
Worksterperhaps some left over file on your system it picks up on.02:27
Workstercheck with romster/pkg-not02:28
Worksterwouldn't hurt to rebuild all of core02:28
Worksteri often rebuild everything on a new gcc version02:28
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brian|lfsok th is is very odd behavior for chromium04:17
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brian|lfshmm NS_ERROR_NET_INADEQUATE_SECURITY wtf04:58
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Romsterbrian|lfs, try downgrading nss07:49
frinnstthe new nss is ~98% abi compatible07:53
frinnstrebuild chromium rather than downgrade nss if thats possible07:53
Romstertest with revdep07:53
Romsterafaik most browsers bundle there own libs07:54
frinnstno symbols were removed but a few were added. so im surprised something broke07:54
Romsterhmm i'll update my nss and try it07:54
Romsteron crux 3.2 still07:54
Romsteri was thinking more along the lines they changed the default security protocol to something more secure than ABI change07:56
frinnsthttps://abi-laboratory.pro/tracker/timeline/nss/07:56
Romstermm firefox and chromium both use system nss08:03
Romsterwhat sites don't work brian|lfs ?08:04
Romstermmm i see it on google.com.au08:05
RomsterError code: NS_ERROR_NET_INADEQUATE_SECURITY08:07
Romsterwww.google.com.au uses security technology that is outdated and vulnerable to attack. An attacker could easily reveal information which you thought to be safe. The website administrator will need to fix the server first before you can visit the site.08:07
Romstersudo pkgadd -u /var/ports/packages/nss#3.27.1-2.pkg.tar.gz08:08
Romsterand now google.com.au loads frinnst08:08
Romsterso some default is changed in nss?08:09
Romsterto make nss more secure08:09
Romsternss 3.28 also does the same08:17
Romsterseems we missed 3.27.208:18
Romster3.27.2 works, so the change is in 3.2808:20
frinnstworks with the beta in 3.3 btw08:26
Romsterhmm how weird08:31
ryu0Romster: sometimes i hate https. causes more connection failures than http would, but i guess that's just a price you pay.08:37
Romsternss is just a library why would a verison change in nss force you to ssl 1.3 or something?08:42
Romsterwont fall back to less secure ssl version08:42
Romsterhmm where is it's CMS i wanna look at the commit history08:43
Romsterhttps://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Projects/NSS/NSS_3.28_release_notes08:47
Romsteri think by enabling NSS_ENABLE_TLS_1_3=1 it forces the use of the new SSL 1.308:49
frinnstyep08:49
frinnstwell, it builds support for it08:49
frinnstthen its up to the browser/application08:49
Romsterwell it's breaking some sites.08:49
Romsterstill can't find the CMS for nss08:50
frinnstin firefox too?08:50
frinnstworks for me (tm) :-)08:50
Romsterhttps://hg.mozilla.org/08:50
Romsterwhere is nss08:50
Romsterdar... in projects/08:50
Romsterhttps://hg.mozilla.org/projects/nss/08:51
Romsteryeah on crux 3.308:51
frinnstI have 2 machines updated with it and no issues here. running  both chromium and firefox here at work without issues08:54
Romsteron crux 3.2?08:55
frinnsttls 1.3 has been in nss for 6+months08:55
frinnstno, this is 3.308:55
frinnstI assume you rebuilt nss without tls 1.3 and it just started to work?08:56
Romstersomething changed in nss 3.28 that doens't fall back to older SSL versions and gives that error NS_ERROR_NET_INADEQUATE_SECURITY08:56
Romsterso i'd have to edit about:config08:56
Romsteror set NSS_ENABLE_TLS_1_3=008:56
Romsterboth are not ideal08:56
frinnstwell if you have confirmed removing the NSS_ENABLE_TLS_1_3 from the nss Pkgfile fixes it, feel free to push it08:57
frinnsti cant for another +4 hrs08:57
frinnstbut please just remove the line, dont set NSS_ENABLE_TLS_1_3=008:57
frinnstits disabled by default anyways08:57
Romsteryeah i know remove the line.08:57
Romsteri'll test that.08:58
frinnstcheers08:58
Romsterstrange ti's been enabled earlier but only now causes problems.09:01
Romsteryes that fixed it09:03
frinnstcool. now i hit a page generating that error too09:06
frinnstwierd09:06
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: [notify ]nss: remove NSS_ENABLE_TLS_1_3=1 as this causes NS_ERROR_NET_INADEQUATE_SECURITY to https on some major sites09:07
Romsteri also fixed that damn url so it's not got a hard coded version string in it -_-09:08
Romsterah i stuffed up the space on the commit :/09:11
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.2]: nss-32: 3.27.1 -> 3.28.109:13
Romsterlet me know if you want to change crux 3.3 the same way or not frinnst. or you might wanna test it some more first.09:19
Romstermmm chromium in crux 3.3 now needs gtk309:20
Romsterah what now en.wikipedia.org is still not fixed.09:32
Romsterbut google works...09:32
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elderKHey guys, is anyone else having trouble accessing Google after applying the most recent prt-get sysup?09:47
elderKI keep getting "NS_ERROR_NET_INADEQUATE_SECURITY" from Firefox :|09:47
ryu0ACTION facepalms.09:47
elderKLooks like another NSS update is queued.09:47
elderKI'll try that now.09:47
elderKryu0: I take it a few people have hit the issue? :D09:48
ryu0elderK: they talked it to death in the backlog.09:48
elderKMy bad. I didn't know there was a log for this chat :) Should've been obvious. D'oh!09:49
frinnstyeah! shame on you!09:51
ryu0there is? i meant for those of us who were here.09:51
frinnsttopic ^09:51
ryu0oh.09:51
elderKThere's a crux 3.3? :O09:54
elderKI'm still on 3.2; I check crux.nu regularly for new media?09:54
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ryu0elderK: it's not official.09:54
ryu0when they finish all their work for it, then it makes the frontpage.09:55
elderKAh, okay. :) I look forward to it.09:55
elderKI rolled NSS back to 3.2709:56
RomsterelderK, ports -u opt ; prt-get update nss09:57
RomsterLogs http://irclogs.shortcircuit.net.au/%23crux/09:57
Romsterin the /topic09:57
elderKI did.09:57
elderKI updated NSS after the change was made - no fix09:58
Romsterclose your browser and open it again09:58
elderKI did.09:58
Romsterie completely exit it update nss and load it back up09:58
elderK:P I did, Romster.09:58
elderKThe only thing I didn't do was reboot.09:59
Romsterit fixed google but then i find wikipedia is still not fixed09:59
Romsternethher did i, might be an idea.09:59
Romsterdon't you have to close everything that uses the shared library before it is unloaded from memory?10:00
Romsteror does a new instance of the newer version run along side for the newly loaded binary that calls it ryu0 ?10:00
elderKI'm pretty sure it stays in memory.10:03
elderKRebooting might not be a bad idea.10:03
elderKThat being said, I'm happy using 3.27.10:03
elderKI read WIkipedia a lot... so.10:03
Romsteri'll try a reboot sometime10:11
Romsterwouldn't hurt to bump my kernel10:11
dbrookereboot didn't fix that for me, reverted to 3.27.1-2 for now10:18
frinnsthttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132320910:18
frinnstSo this is bug 1290037 that will be fixed since Firefox 51.10:19
frinnstUnfortunately, disabling HTTP/2 or "network.http.spdy.enforce-tls-profile" would be the only options for older versions.10:19
frinnstso reverting to 3.27 seems like the best bet at the moment, until firefox 51 is released10:22
dbrookethat was my take too, having just read it10:23
frinnstwow, the youtube.com starpage is horrible10:28
frinnst99.99% of youtube really is shit10:28
dbrookeyeah, I just deleted all the cookies and the recommendations on the home home page are total garbage10:32
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frinnsti've made all my cookies session-only10:34
dbrookeI probably should, I delete them every time it wants me to register10:35
frinnstgod damn microsoft is fucking worse than youtube10:38
dbrookethat's one I can avoid10:39
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: nss: reverted to 3.27 branch.11:27
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: nss: fixed footprint12:29
dbrooke8-) was just starting to type about that12:30
dbrookeACTION tries again12:30
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cruxbot[core.git/3.2]: flex: update to 2.6.315:50
cruxbot[core.git/3.2]: sed: update to 4.315:50
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druid_droidis any special reason for crux project be using flayspray and not PITS from pmwiki ?16:59
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jueblueness: gperf 3.1 breaks eudev -> http://75f9f1b9086e882d.paste.se/17:34
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bluenessjue: thanks i’ll look into that.  i’m using gperf 3.0.420:46
bluenessin fact, maybe now is the time to do away with gperf dependency and run it on my side20:46
bluenessjue: reproduced at my end, luckily i also maintain gperf for gentoo so i was able to update it20:54
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bluenessjue: try this patch http://dpaste.com/1TSKJDF21:06
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bluenessjue: i’ve pushed the fix21:21
bluenessyou can backport the patch21:21
jueblueness: thanks, will do tomorrow22:05
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bluenessjue: the problem with me generating the header locally is that <linux/input.h> might change and the keyboard header would then need to be updated22:35
bluenessi guess i could trace <linux/input.h> and always follow the latest stable22:35
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