IRC Logs for #crux Thursday, 2017-01-26

frinnstports -u and try again00:00
frinnstteK_: Maintainer:   Juergen Daubert, jue at crux dot nu00:01
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jaegerpedja: looking forward to the expanse in a week :)00:39
pedjaoh, yes :) I'll have to rewatch S1 to prepare.00:43
pedja"overlayfs: upper fs needs to support d_type." error, warning or information?00:44
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pedjazfs and jfs does not implement this, it seems.00:52
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: autoconf-archive: initial import01:02
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: [notify] hexchat: some users get missing autoconf-archive on configure, since it's so small depend on it01:02
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timcowchipwhat is "\[\033[1m\]$ \[\033[0m\]" in xterm and how do I get it to say "timcowchip"?01:25
xckoThose are escape sequences in your PS101:26
xckoWhat shell are you using?01:26
xckoA simple solution is typing PS1="timecowchip "01:26
timcowchipah :) thanks01:28
xckoThough it's an impermanent one.01:28
xckoedit your /etc/profile01:28
timcowchipbetter, thanks again01:28
xckosure thing01:29
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joacimsun had some really nice looking cases for their workstations i think01:52
joacimespecially the cases for their sparc workstations01:53
xckothat thing is a behemoth01:56
joacimits not that big02:00
joacimthe ultra 40 series is bigger =)02:00
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jaeger :D02:08
xckoWhats up with all the Sun gear?02:09
jaegerthat pile is just stuff I had at an old job02:10
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joacimthose are some thick cables02:31
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groovy2shoesjaeger, I just watched S1 for the first time last week... really dug it02:43
groovy2shoesit's relatively rare that I watch a show and actually care about the characters enough to keep watching, but I watched the whole season in two sittings heheh02:43
groovy2shoesthen Amazon tricked me because the dropdown box said it had two seasons, but the S2 page was just a preview and a "behind the scenes", and then I was back to my usual ennui02:44
groovy2shoesI also always liked Sun's hw...  wonder how it's been under Oracle, but everybody seems to have moved on to commodity Wintel hw these days02:46
groovy2shoesin some ways that's a good thing, but in other ways it's pretty monotonous02:47
groovy2shoesalways liked OpenFirmware, too02:47
jaegergroovy2shoes: yeah, it's good stuff :)02:48
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jaegergroovy2shoes: have you watched dark matter as well?02:53
groovy2shoesjaeger, I haven't02:54
groovy2shoesis it good?02:54
joacimis a bit dorky02:54
joacimbut i like that =)02:54
joacimenjoyed the expanse a lot too02:54
groovy2shoesI can do dorky02:57
jaegerIt's good, in my opinion02:59
jaegerdifferent from the expanse but good. both space shows02:59
groovy2shoeswhen I first read about the expanse, I was a little worried by the "zombie" aspect, because I've just been really sick of zombies for a while now03:00
groovy2shoesbut they were different enough from the usual zombie that it didn't bother me, and actually they're different enough that I'm curious to find out more about them03:01
groovy2shoesor perhaps s/them/it/03:01
joacimapparently my motherboard has a dedicated ipmi lan port03:02
joacimbut ipmi shows up on the intel nic03:03
joacimit's confusing. can't find a way to turn it off03:03
joacimthe manual doesn't say anything about it either. other than having a diagram pointing to the ipmi interface that i leave disconnected03:04
jaegerusually that's in the bios somewhere03:04
joacimyeah i looked around for a while03:04
joacimoh its in the web interface03:06
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abenzwhats a good pic viewer that is readily available in ports?03:34
xckomeh or feh03:34
abenzsay you have a folder with 1000+ pics, something to see large thumbs eg03:34
abenzfeh is too primitive03:34
jaegerYou'll probably need something like thunar or pcmanfm if you want to browse with thumbnails03:35
xckomaybe looking here will help03:36
xckobut yeah a file manager was my second thought as well03:36
marakusxiv is pretty good03:36
marakucould even do a `sxiv -r` for subfolders03:37
xckofor thumbnails?03:37
maraku`Enter` gives a thumbnail view of all files03:37
xckohuh til03:37
abenzmaraku: checking it out, thanks03:37
xckoThe only feature about sxiv I didn't love was not creating windows the size of the image03:38
marakuyou mean by pixel size?03:39
marakuit doesn't do that for me...03:39
abenzfound what I'm looking for, cheers!03:39
xckogood to hear abenz03:40
xckomaraku: yeah by pixel size. I wish sxiv did do that like feh or meh03:40
marakuoh, i didn't see the *not* part of your sentence03:41
marakueh, i like how sxiv does it03:41
marakumostly because i've got >1080p pictures and a 720p screen on my laptop03:42
xckowell, that makes sense then03:42
xckoI particularly like how with meh I can output the name of the current img to stdout03:42
xckolets me run a while loop behind it to do stuff like moving, deleting, sorting, rotating, resizing03:43
xckomeh <imgs> | while read in; do stuff03:43
xckono chance sxiv has that too?03:44
marakui was looking for something like that for managing pictures (deleting duplicates and the like03:44
marakumight be, i'll check03:44
marakuhmmm, doesn't seem so03:48
marakuhm, i want to chroot test my ports, but 3.3 will be out soon03:49
marakushould i do it now, or wait until 3.3?03:49
xckoI haven't done that with my ports....03:51
xckois it time consuming?03:51
marakumaybe at first, but with ccache it shouldn't be as bad03:52
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xckothe intent is to verify dependencies right?03:52
marakuyeah, and to make sure everything builds in a clean environment03:55
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Romsteri use docker for that04:21
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timcowchipdon't know if my hardware will build qt507:06
marakutimcowchip, Romster has builds of big stuff on his website07:19
marakuif you want to trust him07:20
timcowchipthanks maraku07:28
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Romstermaraku, if you don't trust me you probably shouldn't be using crux :)07:48
marakubut you use http!07:48
Romsteri should fix that i am aware of that.07:48
Romsterif something is missing let me know and i may build it07:49
marakuplease build $(prt-get list)07:49
Romsteri'm only doing really big stuff07:49
marakuoh, relevant stuff07:50
Romsterfor now07:50
marakuccache now requires https07:50
marakuhttp gives a connection refused in opt07:50
Romsteri'm just working on that07:50
marakuit's a sign Romster, http -> https07:51
marakui'm tidying up my ports before i send a contrib application07:51
marakuhopefully i can help out07:51
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: ccache: 3.2.7 -> 3.3.307:53
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: elfutils: 0.167 -> 0.16807:53
Romsterwould be nice we been getting to small07:53
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marakudamn, you're ridiculously fast07:53
Romsteri was actually working on that before you mentioned that.07:55
marakuoh, ok :)07:57
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frinnstschhh, take credit when you can romster :-)08:05
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RomsterI think i have been for a long time frinnst08:07
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timcowchipso there's only gtk3 in crux-3.3?08:13
timcowchipI see gtk is dependency of chromium08:14
timcowchipnevermind "package gtk is installed"08:15
Romsteri fixed that already timcowchip08:16
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: fontforge: 20150824 -> 2016101208:20
timcowchip happens when I run chromium08:24
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frinnstyou have the problem on the second line08:25
frinnstis dbus started?08:25
frinnstdoes the file exist?08:25
timcowchipI have "exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session openbox-session" in my .xinitrc08:29
frinnsttry starting the daemon from rc.d/08:30
timcowchip/usr/sbin/dbus-daemon already running08:31
timcowchipwhen I restart dbus........Unknown username "polkitd" in message bus configuration file08:32
timcowchipbut now the file exists08:33
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: freeglut: 2.8.1 -> 3.0.008:40
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: gobject-introspection: 1.48.0 -> 1.50.008:40
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timcowchipnow I get when running chromium08:42
frinnstyou have the problems literally printed on the first 5 lines08:42
timcowchipI just edited the paste with what happens next08:44
timcowchipshould be in the users group or something?08:45
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timcowchipuid=100(timcowchip) gid=10(wheel) groups=10(wheel)08:46
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timcowchipI used lowercase g with usermod instead of uppercase and "users,wheel"09:10
timcowchipuid=100(timcowchip) gid=100(users) groups=100(users),10(wheel)09:11
timcowchipdoesn't help with chromium though09:12
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: libgudev: update URL09:29
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: t1lib: update URL09:29
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: libsexy: dropped09:29
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: hexchat: remove old not used dependency libsexy09:29
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: libspiro: 0.3.20150131 -> 0.5.2015070209:33
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Romsterso got a new name for systemd... SystemCollapsed10:14
timcowchip#shm                   /dev/shm  tmpfs     defaults                         0      010:16
timcowchipshould I uncomment this line in fstab?10:17
Romsteryes you need that for chromium10:18
Romsterand mount it or reboot to make it automount10:19
timcowchipI sudo mount -a and chromium works now :)10:19
Romsteri have said in the past many times that chromium needs shm mounted10:20
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: libva: 1.7.2 -> 1.7.310:20
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: libyaml: 0.1.6 -> 0.1.710:20
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: mako: 1.0.1 -> 1.0.410:20
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: orc: 0.4.25 -> 0.4.2610:20
timcowchipI'm sure I knew it did once :P10:21
Romsterprt-get readme chromium10:22
RomsterBe sure you enabled /dev/shm or you will get errors like:....10:22
Romsterpays to skim through the README's10:23
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timcowchipthanks romster10:24
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john_cephalopodaI found a new name for dbus... DestructiveBus10:27
john_cephalopodaI start it, hexchat crashes instantly.10:27
Romsterhaha nice10:27
Romsteri got dbus on and it's fine10:27
john_cephalopodaAfter it is started, it is okay.10:27
Romsteryou got dbus in SERVICES then you start the user session with X or the WM starts it for you10:28
john_cephalopodaI know, I usually don't use it though, so I didn't put it in autostart.10:28
Romsteryeah you should start the userspace when you startx10:28
Romsterthat will do it10:28
john_cephalopodaI use it for chromium, but chromium is a bit unstable:
Romsteryeah chromium needs dbus10:29
frinnstyou generally dont need to start dbus from rc.d10:30
frinnstdbus-launch will take care of most things10:30
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Romsterreally? there is two sides to dbus the system daemon and the user session10:31
frinnstyeah the session will be limited to the app that launches it I guess10:31
frinnstfredrik    355  0.0  0.0  28864   272 ?        S    jan23   0:00 dbus-launch --autolaunch=349a0f5deba312376080f5b4586bcdcb --binary-syntax --close-stderr10:31
Romsterhmm that might be the case10:31
frinnstfredrik    356  0.0  0.0  13224   172 ?        Ss   jan23   0:00 /usr/sbin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 5 --print-address 7 --session10:31
frinnstsomething like that10:31
frinnst(after running firefox)10:32
frinnstdepends on the application i guess10:32
frinnstdbus is sooooooo boring. I know next to nothing about the inner workings10:33
frinnsteventhough I maintain it for crux :-)10:33
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: taglib: 1.11 -> 1.11.110:43
Romsteri don't even know how the freedesktop/blah/blah long addresses work or how the events are passed around or why it's even needed.10:45
Romsterman that should be opt taken care of in crux 3.2 at least...10:45
Romsterso many ports10:46
ryu0I wonder what the geography of crux would look like, what with all the ports it has.10:56
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ryu0"Technical support hotline. How may we abuse you?"12:26
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frinnstyuck. all day has been spent dealing with x509 certificates14:20
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pedjaDocker should really hire the guy that wrote 'Docker Networking Cookbook'.Their documentation suuuucks most of the time.16:27
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: socat: update to infra seems to be running on a potato.20KB/s d/l.really?16:32
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pedjaI have ~1500 ports.there must be some worthy of inclusion to contrib, right?16:40
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dlcusaFirst ports -u in three days, now prt-cache sysup --test cryptically complains "cyclic dependencies."  Anybody else?17:14
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rmullThis is so great and simple
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joacimseen a few sites add copyright info to your pastes when you copy from their site17:56
john_cephalopodaAnd this is yet another proof that I should never use web browsers to find solutions any more. Instead I'll use IRC and ask stupid questions to everybody.17:58
john_cephalopodaWhat was the command for showing all directories again?17:58
john_cephalopodaAnd I have a code like this how to fix it?17:58
john_cephalopoda<20 line paste directly to IRC>17:58
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timcowchipis where 3.3 ports will eventually be?19:20
timcowchipif so I could cleanup
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: thunderbird: updated to 45.7.0. Security fix:21:03
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timcowchip09/02/2015 was my last "httpup repgen"21:08
cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: glib: updated to 2.50.221:13
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.2]: cryptsetup: 1.6.8 -> 1.7.322:26
timcowchipupdated handbrake and os-prober and added google-chrome-stable22:26
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