IRC Logs for #crux Friday, 2017-02-17

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druid-droidIm updating to 3.3 and I get error with dbus error newly created file is older ...06:40
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druid-droidI think I found problem lets see :)06:59
jaegercheck your system clock07:00
druid-droidyes «=)07:00
druid-droidsuper uber 9000+ crux !!!!07:08
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: gst-plugins-base: 1.10.2 -> 1.10.312:12
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: gstreamer: 1.10.2 -> 1.10.312:12
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: setuptools: 34.1.1 -> 34.2.012:12
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: python3-setuptools: 34.1.1 -> 34.2.012:12
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: pyparsing: fix world writable files12:12
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: python3-pyparsing: fix world writable files12:12
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: gvim: update to 8.0.032912:12
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: libnfsidmap: update to 0.2712:12
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: poppler: update to 0.52.012:12
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: poppler-glib: update to 0.52.012:12
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: poppler-qt4: update to 0.52.012:12
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: sqlite3: update to 3.17.012:12
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: poppler-qt4: dropped12:17
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zauberlehrlingis crux a good linux distro for a normal user?13:13
frinnstonly if you care about what software you run on your computer and are willing to tinker with it13:13
frinnstfor "joe sixpack" i wouldnt recommend crux13:14
zauberlehrlingno sixpack more of a lil beer belly lol13:14
zauberlehrlingis it even worse than arch?13:15
zauberlehrlingor like gentoo?13:15
frinnstif you by "worse" mean "better" then yes :)13:15
zauberlehrlingnope i guess you understood me13:16
frinnstcrux is for control freaks that want to know what libraries and programs are installed13:16
zauberlehrlingouch control freaks13:17
zauberlehrlingi thought it was from sweden13:17
zauberlehrlingsounded pretty relaxed13:17
frinnstits not for everybody and we dont try to be13:17
frinnsthehe im the only swede that maintain it :>13:17
frinnstus and germany otherwise13:17
frinnstand some strange australians13:18
zauberlehrlingyeah those are weird13:18
zauberlehrlingthe germans i mean13:18
frinnstgood beer though13:18
zauberlehrlingthe whole stasi community controls it?13:18
zauberlehrlingwhole world has good beer13:18
zauberlehrlingso has sweden13:18
zauberlehrlingi had mageia installed it sucks mostly because no one in the rooms answers13:19
zauberlehrlingi liek an active community and not rooms that serv as a parking lot13:20
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frinnstthe crux community is generally pretty helpful i think13:20
frinnstbut its small13:20
frinnstif you want to try it out this spin might be useful:
zauberlehrlingoh a spin already13:24
zauberlehrlingthats what i do not like about linux it varies too much13:24
zauberlehrlingnope if i try it i try it the hard way13:24
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joacimnot sure if i see how cruxex is too much variation16:26
joacimits made for a very specific use case16:27
joacimnot everyone likes debian too, so its fine that there are slackwares, redhats, and suses to choose from16:27
just_funI'm new to crux, but I would like a crux based on with binary packages16:28
just_funas long as it let me build ports16:28
just_funor rebuild with my flags16:29
just_funthe iso is like cruxex16:29
just_funcames with prebuilt packages16:29
just_funCrux with prebuilt or preinstalled is still Crux.16:31
joacimmost people are expected to build packages with pkgmk/prt-get16:32
jaegerthe point of cruxex isn't variation, it's to be a liveCD16:32
joacimtho there are some prebuilt packages for larger projects like firefox16:32
joacimi dont think any distro or rebuild is doing it out of variety16:33
jaegerJust variety in terms of out-of-the-box user experience16:41
jaegerdifferent WMs, etc.16:41
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rmullI'm getting a bunch of signature mismatches on some opt updates from recently: libnfsidmap, sqlite3, xfsprogs. Is it a problem on my end?16:51
onoderarmull: same16:55
onoderabtw if anyone is interested, I stupidly extended my prt tool to be a standalone pkgmanager instead of a pkgmk wrapper:
onoderaI'm in the process of porting all pkgmk function, right now I only have downloading, unpacking and md5sum creating/checking working ;)16:57
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jueyep, that's my fault, will fix shortly18:05
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: signature updates18:12
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: poppler-qt5: update to 0.52.018:14
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: git: update md5sum20:25
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pedjaI've never heard of liquid metal TIM before.Interesting.,review-32804.html21:12
john_cephalopoda403 Forbidden21:13
pedjaworks fine here.21:14
onoderago 1.8 has been released21:19
onoderathe go-certpath patch fails for me tho21:20
jaegeryeah, yesterday21:20
jaegerI haven't tested it locally yet21:20
onoderafixed it21:33
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pedjaok, git wizards.after unshallowing, how do I add another remote branch to track?21:40
pedjaadd ref to the .git/config?21:41
teK_jaeger: docker.rc has PROG=docker .. shouldnt that be dockerd?21:41
jaegerteK_: eventually. It's not being removed until 1.1621:44
jaegerwas planning to change that next time there's an update21:44
jaegerpedja: another branch in a repo you already have checked out? fetch/pull should do that21:45
pedjajaeger, it was a shallow clone/just one branch.but, I edited fetch line in [remote "origin"], did a 'git fetch --all', and voila :)21:47
teK_I tried running docker -- daemon and it failed, that's why Im asking21:47
jaegerfailed how?21:47
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teK_docker: 'daemon' is not a docker command.21:48
teK_as a result of % sudo /usr/bin/docker -- daemon -p /var/run/ -G docker21:49
teK_or rc.d/docker start ;)21:49
teK_I have 1.13.021:49
pedja'docker daemon' is deprecated in 1.13.021:49
jaegerhrmm, odd. mine's running that way currently21:49
jaeger"Command "daemon" is deprecated, and will be removed in Docker 1.16. Please run `dockerd` directly."21:50
jaegerI'll give it another look after work21:50
pedjadocker-1.13.1 works fine :)21:50
teK_I have docker 1.13.0-121:51
pedjaI updated mine :)21:51
jaegerI'm planning to test go 1.8 and docker 1.13.1 after work so will probably have updates soon21:51
teK_sure sure.. first I need to fix my kernel config AGAIN anyway21:52
pedjabtw, jaeger, I saw in the Docker issues that until containerd reaches 1.0, docker should be build against specific commit of it.21:55
jaegerI hate it when they do stuff like that21:56
pedjacommits are listed in
pedjayeah, vulkan SDK is the same :)21:56
jaegerI already had to fuck around with the libnetwork stuff because of that21:56
pedjaI modified so it checks out proper commits, and makes tarballs.21:58
pedjabut it's messy.21:58
pedjasince all of them has to be in sync (for now, anyway), one docker port (to rule them all) makes more sense.22:00
pedjaI packaged tini as docker-init, too.22:01
pedjaworks fine as init for most distros, afaict, but alpine.22:03
pedjaDocker recently updated their build to go-
jaegerteK_: just tested on my local docker server, 'docker daemon' still works fine for me with 1.13.022:10
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jaegerthat matches mine other than build date22:13
teK_whatever.. I justed wanted to do a quick test drive of a software and here I am comparing versions, kernel config options and start scripts22:15
jaegerI'll change it to dockerd for the 1.13.1 update22:15
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frinnstjust_fun: Total DISK READ :     680.96 M/s22:29
frinnstfrom a cronjob :-)22:29
frinnst(btrfs scrub)22:30
frinnstno, 4 spinning rust22:39
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pedja"Operating System: CRUX".Finally, docker knows where it's running :)22:54
pedjahad to add /etc/os-release to teach it, though22:55
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jaegerinitial tests with updated containerd, runc, and docker look promising here23:00
jaegerI just need to put it on my server that actually runs things and see how it goes there23:00
pedjaare you sticking with go-1.7.5?23:00
jaegerassuming I don't see any problems23:01
pedjasince upstream is using 1.7.5, I'd stick with it :)23:01
jaegerI'm not really keen on packaging go inside the docker port, honestly23:02
pedjawhy inside?just just update to 1.8 until they do.they are, by far, the largest consumer of it.23:03
pedjadon't update*23:04
jaegerPeople will complain if go isn't updated :P23:04
pedjaand they will complain if go update breaks docker, so :)23:05
jaegerWhich is why I said "if I don't see any problems"23:05
jaegerIf I do, then I'll revert23:05
pedjafair enough.23:05
pedjahave I asked you if you played with rancher before?23:06
pedjamy memory is not so good this century23:06
pedjaafter watching The Expanse, it's hard to find anything as good to watch next :)23:09
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jaegerI think we've talked about it in the past. I haven't used it myself but have heard of it23:12
pedjaI have their Quick Start Guide in a browser tab for a while now.One of these days I'll actually read it.23:18
jaegerso far the new versions are working great23:28
pedjaif you want a guinea pig^W another tester, I am around :)23:42
pedjamy main use for docker is as lightweight VM (for now, anyway)23:43
jaegersure, give me a sec to upload23:44
pedjagot to testing.23:49

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