IRC Logs for #crux Thursday, 2017-03-09

Worksterfrinnst, you might be interested in this program https://tech.slashdot.org/story/17/03/05/1717208/third-party-vendor-issues-temporary-patch-for-windows-vulnerability https://0patch.com/00:50
Worksterand anyone else concerned with windows vulnerabilities00:50
Worksterchinarulezzz> 'Nice to have' counted 23 times, 'Optional' 33. <- that is probably my doing, i prefer "Optional"00:51
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xeirrr_Romster, ping01:12
xeirrr_Romster, I found wxpython still  needs gstreamer-compat and gst-plugins-base-compat those two packages to get built. it's in 3.2, why 3.3 dropped them?01:16
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timcowchiponodera: you are audacity maintainer?08:22
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onoderatimcowchip: yeah I created the initial pkgfile I think08:23
timcowchip6c37 Team?08:23
onoderawhats the problem08:23
timcowchiphaving trouble compiling08:24
timcowchipI'm trying it now I'll paste the build log if it fails again08:25
onoderahmm yeah please08:25
onoderaI don't have most audacitiy dependencies installed rn08:26
timcowchipis vamp-plugin-sdk a soft dep?08:28
timcowchipI had to --disable-vamp to compile on nutyx08:29
timcowchiphttps://github.com/NuTyX/extra/blob/master/gui-extra/audacity/Pkgfile08:29
onoderahmm maybe configure doesn't disable it automatically...08:30
onoderaI'll try this when I'm home08:30
timcowchipok thanks08:30
onoderadid adding that flag fix building?08:30
timcowchipit did on nutyx08:30
timcowchipnot on crux08:30
onoderaI never heard about nutyx before, is it a crux fork?08:31
timcowchipyes08:31
onoderaah neat, what does it change?08:31
timcowchipwith a repository of pre-built packages08:31
just_funI see alan, deepthought and nullspoon have audacity 2.1.2 too08:33
timcowchipyes08:33
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timcowchipI see "--with-libflac=local" in deepthought's pkgfile08:35
timcowchipI think my last attempt had a flac error08:35
frinnstjavascript is sooo awesome08:40
frinnstarrive at work: firefox is consuming ~12GB ram08:41
timcowchipgeez that's twice my ram and swap combined :)08:46
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just_funtimcowchip, import/ImportFLAC.cpp:299:14: error: cannot convert 'bool' to 'ImportFileHandle*' in return08:51
just_funthis is my error08:51
timcowchipthat's the one08:52
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xeirrrRomster: ping12:33
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cruxbot[xorg.git/3.3]: libinput: update to 1.6.313:10
cruxbot[xorg.git/3.3]: xorg-xf86-input-libinput: update to 0.25.013:10
cruxbot[xorg.git/3.3]: mesa3d: update to 17.0.113:10
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cruxbot[core.git/3.3]: exim: update to 4.8913:12
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crash_from mesa 13.x to 17 :P18:29
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tilmancrash_: as in 2017 iirc. new versioning scheme.18:49
crash_tilman: yeah i was reading up on that now :)18:50
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john_cephalopodacrash_: I just wanted to ask if the mesa package has been updated yet :D19:19
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john_cephalopodaI got some iwlwifi problems.20:35
john_cephalopodaIt takes ~ 50 seconds unti the interface is displayed in ip link20:35
pedjagithub is slooooow20:43
pedja40Kib/s slow20:44
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frinnstERROR: Rust compiler not found.21:27
frinnstTo compile rust language sources, you must have 'rustc' in your path.21:27
frinnstSee https//www.rust-lang.org/ for more information.21:27
frinnstfuck that21:27
frinnst--disable-rust ftw21:28
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: libpng: updated to 1.6.2821:31
frinnst"oops"21:32
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pedjaFirefox-56 will require Rust, right?21:46
pedjaI forgot how good the colors are on this monitor.I should've cleaned it a long time ago.21:53
timcowchippkgadd: could not determine name and/or version of 2.1.2-1.pkg.tar.gz: Invalid package name21:56
timcowchipaudacity#2.1.2-1.pkg.tar.gz21:57
timcowchipshould it be audacity-2.1.2-1.pkg.tar.gz21:57
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frinnstnot sure pedja21:57
frinnsthope not :-)21:57
tilmanbetter start to embrace the rust21:58
frinnstnew deps are evil21:58
pedjahttps://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/eb1677e3268022:01
frinnstTo install Rust, run the following in your terminal, then follow the onscreen instructions.22:01
frinnstcurl https://sh.rustup.rs -sSf | sh22:01
frinnstTHAT is why I hate the fucking github culture22:01
pedjaand https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128481622:02
frinnstRust is installed and managed by the rustup tool.22:02
frinnstno no no no22:02
tilmanagreed, but you don't *have* to do it that way22:02
timcowchipnvm :P22:04
tsaopwell, every language has its package manager now22:04
john_cephalopodaSolved the issue.22:04
john_cephalopoda(Wifi issue)22:04
frinnstbuilding from the tarball release downloads a bunch of binaries..22:05
frinnstjust.. ick22:05
john_cephalopodapython uses pip.22:06
john_cephalopodaIt has advantages and disadvantages.22:06
john_cephalopodaThe clear advantage is, that packagers of distros don't have to package everything.22:07
john_cephalopodaStuff like youtube-dl (which updates every few days) can be updated with a simple pip-command and doesn't have to be updated by somebody all the time.22:07
john_cephalopodaThe disadvantage is, that several package managers are present, which introduces more possible security holes and can easily lead to weird interference, where one messes up the dirs of the other one.22:09
pedjapip sucks for stuff that has dependencies other than other python modules (numpy, pandas, etc)22:10
frinnstalso. GET OFF MY LAWN22:10
john_cephalopodahttps://crux.nu/Wiki/WikiGettingStarted22:12
john_cephalopoda"This place really is for CRUX related documentation, so general HOWTOs should be placed elsewhere."22:12
john_cephalopodaWhere is the border?22:12
ryu0frinnst: your lawn? comrade, the communists own everything now. =p22:13
john_cephalopodaryu0: Get of everybody's lawn!22:13
john_cephalopoda:รพ22:13
john_cephalopodaIs a tutorial on the uses of wpa_supplicant CRUX-related? A configuration help for alsa? A small guide for configuring tablet support in kernel?22:15
pedjathat's generic Linux stuff, nothing Crux specific22:15
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john_cephalopodapedja: But what is crux-specific?22:17
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john_cephalopodaHow is https://crux.nu/Wiki/Distcc more crux-specific than a guide to wpa_supplicant?22:18
john_cephalopodaImo, it would be good to also have some more general things in there, that are not yet properly documented elsewhere.22:19
pedja'prt-get depinst --install-scripts ccache distcc' is Crux specific, I think22:19
john_cephalopodaBut that's the only line that is crux-specific. "prt-get depisnt wpa_supplicant" makes the tutorial crux-specific?22:20
frinnstKiB Mem : 32902680 total, 18672944 free,  4714384 used,  9515352 buff/cache22:20
frinnstlovely :D22:20
frinnstcant even dent the ram usage22:21
frinnstthough I dont like I cant really show all cores in top any more.. leaves no room for the processes22:21
frinnst1st world problem i guess?22:21
pedjathat's a pretty awesome 'problem' to have :)22:24
frinnstjohn_cephalopoda: if the article is about how to get wpa_supplicant working in crux. then it's a good fit imho. If its about getting wpa_supplicant working with device X, then it's not.22:24
john_cephalopodapedja: I think that the distcc article is a good thing to have in the wiki, I just use it to demonstrate how hard it is to draw the line between crux-related and crux-unrelated.22:24
frinnstor something along those lines22:24
john_cephalopodafrinnst: There is actually an example that does exactly that.22:24
john_cephalopodaThis article explains how to get a very specific intel wifi card running: https://crux.nu/Wiki/WifiStartScripts22:25
frinnstyeah but its also very crux specific, with rc-scripts and whatnot22:26
pedja'use kernel 2.6.24 or later'.well, 4.10.1 is 'later', I guess22:27
abenz_https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/amd_confirms_that_ryzen_supports_ecc_memory/122:28
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pedjaAMD CEO confirmed that in the Reddit AMA last week, iirc22:29
pedjabut, just a few m/b have ECC support, for now22:29
john_cephalopodaYep, saw it in the AMA, to.22:30
pedjathere should be more than 80 m/b models, a few of them will have ECC support :)22:31
frinnstyeah. asus said my board didnt support it though. I asked22:33
frinnstthe chipset supports it afaik22:33
pedjait's weird that asrock m/b does support it, and asus doesn't22:34
abenzI hoping in a few months time some mobo vendors will release some decent mobos without all the "gaming/rgb" stuff added22:35
pedjasome reviewers had issues with RAM/motherboard compatibility22:36
frinnstmy asus is pretty discrete. x370-pro22:36
joacimone of the nicest looking boards right now i think22:37
joacimfor that chipset22:37
frinnstit does have some stupid pcb led but luckily you can turn that off22:37
joacimbut a ws board with heatsink looking heatsinks and no rgb would be great too =)22:37
abenzI like gigabyte bios/uefi cause it has some extra features like being able to select primary graphics card, it was one of the early boards to support gpu-passthru (IOMMU,,etc)22:39
abenzthis is on my 990fx board22:40
abenznot sure about current affairs22:40
Worksterxeirrr, i patched wxgtk to use the newer gstreamer so i must have a issue with wxgtk still that is causing wxpython to keep looking for the old version. looking into it.22:41
pedjahttps://www.custompcreview.com/news/upcoming-gigabyte-amd-am4-motherboard-pictures-leaked/33207/22:41
joacimiommu seems a bit annoying on the new boards22:41
joacimnot sure if thats something that can be patched22:42
abenzjoacim: annoying?22:44
abenzwhat new boards?22:44
joacimthe am4 boards22:44
joacimwith gpu passthrough, both 16x (8x+8x) slots end up getting passed to the guest os22:44
joacimfrom what i've seen22:45
abenzoh wow22:45
abenzthat'd be deal breaker for me22:45
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abenzmost likely fixable with a bios/firmware22:46
john_cephalopodaI am currently checking crux.nu for broken links.22:54
john_cephalopoda356 broken links already.22:54
teK_spam?22:54
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john_cephalopodateK_: Nope. Just quite some broken links.22:57
john_cephalopodaFor example, it says that the mirror http://dl.ambiweb.de/mirrors/ftp.crux.nu/ doesn't work.22:58
john_cephalopodaShould I file a bug with all the broken links?23:00
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teK_one per url?23:01
john_cephalopodaNah, batched.23:02
john_cephalopodaA lot of duplicates.23:03
john_cephalopodaEvery profile has a link to https://crux.nu/Profiles/PageIndex in the bottom bar.23:04
teK_355 broken links now.23:04
john_cephalopodaWhich is broken.23:04
john_cephalopodaAlso thanks for fixing that link :)23:05
teK_I am not interested in a list with duplicates, though23:06
teK_how many if you deduplicate?23:06
teK_I also created an empty PageIndex ..23:06
john_cephalopodahttps://crux.nu/Main/About "The Hosting" - The link to "FUKT" is broken. Probably doesn't exist any more?23:09
john_cephalopodahttp://www.fukt.bsnet.se/ <- That one alternatively?23:11
john_cephalopodaIt's just too much.23:15
john_cephalopoda94 more links, and I cancelled the search because it takes ages.23:15
john_cephalopodaI think, it is more productive to actually do something else and fix the links when somebody stumbles over them in actual use scenarios.23:22
teK_kinda23:23
teK_still thanks for reporting I fixed those at least23:23
john_cephalopodanp23:24
brian|lfsanyone have the z3bra repo besides me its been hangign on syncing the last few days23:38
frinnsttouch: cannot touch '/usr/lib/rust-install-probe': Permission denied23:42
frinnstffs23:42
frinnststupid build23:42

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