IRC Logs for #crux Saturday, 2017-04-01

joacimguessing those things wont get that hot when dealing with a couple of computers and a server anyways =900:06
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jaegerseems unlikely, yeah00:23
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: cups: update to 2.2.313:19
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: lvm2: update to 2.02.16913:19
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: nano: update to 2.8.013:19
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: sqlite3: update to 3.18.013:19
cruxbot[core.git/3.3]: libdevmapper: update to 1.02.13813:20
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: pmwiki: update to 2.2.9513:24
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: monit: update to 5.21.013:24
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: stunnel: update to 5.4113:27
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: mutt: Remove another call of xsltproc. Use instead of .am (FS#1397)14:14
pedjaso, Matt Dillon (of HAMMER fame) is recommending Samsung 951 and 960 EVO as consumer NVME m.2 ssds
pedja"Intel 600P- NOT RECOMMENDED Does not pass muster for many reasons.  Do not buy this device for any reason."14:27
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pedjaan interesting read14:28
j_vpedja: thanks. don't have mb with m.2 support yet, but probably will on next build.14:33
j_vgood to see review with stats from testing.14:35
pedjaso frinnst, you were right to get 960evo :)14:35
pedjaI am wondering if anyone will try to replicate the tests, it would be interesting to see if there is any difference with another OS14:36
pedjarandread is cross-platform.nice.14:40
pedjaso is fio14:41
pedjadamn, so many tools I had no idea about :)14:42
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vsteveis anyone able to install pangox-compat?15:23
j_vvsteve: yes, no problems here15:27
j_vare you getting a specific error? during build or pkgadd?15:29
vstevei'm trying prt-get sysup just incase some weird old thing is causing an issue15:29
vsteve  CCLD ./libtool: 1: eval: Syntax error: "(" unexpected (expecting ")") make: *** [Makefile:389:] Error 2 =======> ERROR: Building '/usr/ports/opt/pangox-compat/pangox-compat#0.0.2-1.pkg.tar.gz' failed.  -- Packages where install failed pangox-compat15:29
vsteveI looked at the line in the makefile it points to, the line looks fine, I don't see any unmatched brackets15:30
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j_vlooks like a broken ./libtool file in the sources, hard to tell from here what might have caused that15:34
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: mutt: signature fix15:34
vstevebut if we're both doing prt-get install pangox-compat it should all be the same, right?15:35
j_vwell, maybe, but something on your system might be breaking the local libtool file generation, if it gets generated during the build... i'm looking at the sources now to try to determine when/if the libtool file get's generated15:37
vsteveah, thank you15:39
j_vvsteve: did you have to work directory for the pkg build?15:41
j_vit would be interesting and probably enlightening to see the generated libtool file at the root of the pangox-compat sources after the build failure15:42
vsteveI'm not sure I understand the question15:43
vstevewhich file would you need to see?15:43
j_vif you are building via prt-get, you can use the --margs="-kw" to pass the --keep-work option to pkgmk, then the work directory will not get deleted and then you could pastebin the generated libtool file at the root of the pangox-compat sources15:44
vsteveprt-get install pangox-compat --margs="-kw"15:45
vstevelike that?15:45
j_vi usually put the option directly after 'install', not sure if prt-get is option order sensative, but it probably is15:46
vsteveprt-get install --margs="-kw" pangox-compat15:46
vstevejust confirming for safety'15:47
vstevesafety's sake*15:47
j_vyes, that works... I just tried the other option ordering and apparrently it is not that important15:47
j_veither order works fine15:48
vsteveok I see it saved the work15:49
j_vok, if you pastebin the work/src/pangox-compat-0.0.2/libtool file, can look at it to see if the problem is obvious15:50
j_vi'm thinking the issue is shell related, but can't be sure, just a guess15:51
vstevegrabbing the file, brb15:52
vstevethere ya go16:10
pedjabuilds fine here, too (just another data point :) )16:13
vsteveeven after prt-get sysup finished, it still can't install pangox-compat16:14
vstevehow weird, it even builds on my laptop16:14
vstevethe only machine it won't build on is the one I want it on most :p16:14
j_vthe sys_libs_search_path_spec is hosed... line 278; need to figure out where that one comes from16:16
vstevethe problem gets worse16:17
vsteveI can't rebuild libtool on that system either16:17
j_vhow about CFLAGS and LDFLAGS in /etc/pkgmk.conf... what do they look like?16:19
vsteveexport CFLAGS="-O2 -march=native -pipe" export CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"  export MAKEFLAGS="-j8"16:19
j_vstill trying to track down how that bad line in libtool file is created, but have you tried to build with MAKEFLAGS="-j1"? ... just for argument sake16:21
vstevetrying now16:21
vstevesame failure on libtool16:22
vstevesame failure on pangox-compat16:22
jaegerI would also try with --march=x86-6416:22
jaegernative can cause weird problems16:22
vstevejust tried that, same errors persist16:23
vsteveI assume -pipe is harmless16:23
jaegershould be16:24
j_voutput of `gcc -print-search-dirs` might tell us something16:24
vsteveinstall: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/5.4.0/ programs: =/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/5.4.0/:/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/5.4.0/:/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/:/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/5.4.0/:/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/:/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/5.4.0/../../../../x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/bin/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/5.4.0/:/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/5.4.0/16:25
vstevehuh..that's not right16:25
j_vlooks fine if it's crux-3.216:26
vsteveit is - sorry, should have mentioned that16:26
vsteve(my laptop is also 3.2 and libtool and pangox-compat are fine here)16:27
vstevethe problem machine is one of my bigger rigs which I ssh into16:27
j_vis there another version of awk installed besides gawk?16:28
vstevehow do I determine that?  which awk?16:28
j_vAWK=$(which awk) ; $AWK --version16:29
vsteveGNU Awk 4.1.4, API: 1.1 (GNU MPFR 3.1.4-p6, GNU MP 6.1.1) Copyright (C) 1989, 1991-2016 Free Software Foundation.16:30
j_vok, that is fine... give a few minutes; i need to step back a bit, i was mistakenly grepping for sys_libs_search_path_spec, but should have been sys_libs_dlsearch_path_spec... sorry, fat fingers here sometimes16:34
vsteveno problem thanks for your help16:34
pedjaI am wondering what causes that garbage in the libtool, never seen anything like it.16:36
j_vyeah, is weird... i'm thinking jaeger was on the right track, but hard to test out here16:37
vstevewhoa, ok, so that has to be my fault16:38
vsteveI don't know, because I have no idea what populates "sys_lib_dlsearch_path_spec=" within libtool16:38
j_vit's in the configure script that all this get's handled16:39
vstevebut the fact I see amdgpu in there right before the garbage is curious, since I'm developing an experimental amgpu-pro installer16:39
j_vI'm looking to see all/any commands that might get called in generating that output16:39
pedjaconfigure.log and pass -d to make?16:40
j_vpedja: good point, that should help alot16:40
j_vi have build logging turned on and set to save all the time in etc/prt-get.conf, that would help too16:44
j_vgiven that you are working on that experimental installer, do you have any CFLAGS, LDFL16:46
j_vfat fingers...16:46
j_vLDFLAGS set in environment16:46
vstevenot that I know of16:47
pedjafakeroot or root for build?16:47
vsteveall the script is supposed to do is move files around, moving drivers into the right places16:47
vstevethere's not a lot to it16:48
j_vok, just trying to find something to track down... basically, at this point, i'm wondering if your toolchain has gotten messed up, but I'm grasping at straws by now16:50
vsteveI may just need to reinstall from scratch16:51
vstevegives me an excuse to try 3.3 again anyway16:51
pedjawhy don't just update to 3.3?it comes with a new, shiny, toolchain :)16:52
vsteveI tried, i couldn't get it to work on any of my systems when it first came out16:52
vstevebeen stuck with 3.2 since16:52
vstevemanaged to reinstall 3.2 just i don't know what the deal is16:52
pedjawhat was the problem with 3.3?16:53
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vsteveI can't remember, I feel like it was something boot related16:53
j_vbtw, that corrupted line in the libtool file looks like the ELF header to a binary executable16:55're right16:55
vstevehow the hell did that get there?16:55
j_vyep, good question... answer is likely the solution to your problem16:56
vstevewhich may be achieving a stable orbit, dropping nukes and starting over16:57
vsteveso that'll be it for now, thanks for looking into all this16:58
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pedjathat amdgpupro driver is insane :)17:08
j_vhmmm, didn't realize he was importing a debian package17:11
tsaoplast time I checked, the provided libs had hardcoded ubuntu paths17:12
tsaopin /opt and /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu17:12
tsaopor something like that17:12
tsaopI gave up on trying to package them for CRUX17:12
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j_vlooking at his script, it looks pretty involved. hard to know what kind of effect that could have on a system and i'm not in a need for such thing right now so not that curious, i guess17:15
pedjamy next CPU is probably Ryzen, but I'll stick with Nvidia cards for now :)17:17
joacimnot sure what i want yet. i want a new ryzen systme, but i'd also like an old workstation like a Z420 =)17:30
j_vthe z420 would be good... pricy tho17:39
jaegerlenovo thinkservers are a pretty decent option and often reasonably priced17:44
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j_vlooks like would be a good compromise between price and performance17:46
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timcowchiptsaop: I'm installing frameworks-meta and plasma-meta17:56
timcowchipnow that I have decent hardware to run it on17:57
tsaoptimcowchip: great!17:57
tsaopreport if something is broken17:57
tsaopenjoy compiling qtwebengine17:58
timcowchipdoes sddm run automatically17:58
timcowchipalready did for qupzilla17:58
tsaopYou need to start its service17:58
timcowchipsystemctl start sddm17:59
tsaopnope, I meant it's rc file17:59
tsaop /etc/rc.d/sddm start17:59
tsaopyou should then be good to go17:59
timcowchipok thanks :)18:00
tsaopremember to run the post-install scripts18:00
tsaopif you haven't set your prt-get to do that automatically18:00
tsaopcheck for the ports who have them18:00
timcowchipalready did18:00
tsaopusually for updating the icon cache or desktop database18:00
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timcowchiplxqt on kwin
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pedja'We all float down here.'18:34
timcowchipI remember "will it float" on Letterman18:36
pedjathis is much more sinister :)18:37
timcowchipsinister as in flod?18:37
pedjahint: Pennywise18:38
pedjaPennywise The Clown, to be exact18:38
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j_vi thought clowns were spooky before that movie18:42
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timcowchipsddm [post: failed]19:28
timcowchipgroupadd: command not found19:32
jaegershould probably specify the full path19:33
timcowchip/usr/sbin/groupadd -r sddm19:33
timcowchipworked, thanks jaeger19:33
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joacimwhere's the april fools update?19:51
joacimwhy's nobody pushing an n+1 revision of long compile time ports19:51
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timcowchipkf5 on crux
timcowchipcan't seem to get the applications menu to work20:08
timcowchipdo I need to install dolphin or konqueror?20:13
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timcowchipapplication menus are working now20:38
timcowchipme likey :D20:39
brian|lfshey timcowchip20:46
brian|lfsI would of helped you but was sleeping20:47
brian|lfsanyhow whats with the 7-04-01 on your photo20:47
brian|lfsname if that's a date something is really screwy with your date.20:47
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brian|lfsintersting cups don't install for me unless avahi is removed from being disabled21:02
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