IRC Logs for #crux Sunday, 2017-05-07

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ryu0runaphox: sure there is. you just haven't hit them yet. :-)00:14
runaphoxbrian|lfs: Thanks!00:27
runaphoxryu0: In any case, i could try to do it by myself. Though it seems scary.00:28
ryu0this was meant as a bit of a joke and a bit not.00:29
ryu0i guess it depends how much time you have in part.00:29
ryu0runaphox: but you're bound to run into frustrations like build failures.00:30
ryu0they may be rarer on crux though since the toolchain isn't randomly updated with breaking changes.00:31
ryu0still, you may have issues sometimes when they bump major libs.00:32
runaphoxWell. Even with those inconveniences, the outcome would be a lean and fast system!00:32
ryu0runaphox: "lean"... a lot of devices can spare the extra storage.00:34
ryu0are you that resource constrained?00:34
ryu0runaphox: other ideas for a "faster" system: SSDs, file system compression (btrfs/zfs)00:35
runaphoxNah. I have a 230G hard drive (more than enough for me). I simply think there is no reason for not having a simpler environment.00:35
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ryu0heh. lucky you. i write programs and i need a lot of different and complicated software packages.00:36
runaphoxWell SSDs are not a possibility for me. I'll look into that file system compression thing.00:36
ryu0runaphox: why not? drive not removable?00:37
ryu0SSDs have dropped significantly in price per GB.00:37
runaphoxWell. My country does not agree with you. Haha.00:37
ryu0oh? still too expensive?00:37
runaphoxEverything is way too expensive. So, yeah.00:38
ryu0here i could get a 512GB SSD for $150.00:38
ryu0it's still more expensive but it's getting better here.00:38
ryu0runaphox: sounds like Australia? lol00:38
runaphoxNope. More like Venezuela, if you know anything about it's situation.00:39
ryu0no i don't, but anyway.00:39
ryu0runaphox: btrfs can apply transparent compression, lzo or zlib00:39
ryu0lzo is less overhead but less compression %.00:40
ryu0zlib is more overhead and more compression %.00:40
ryu0basically, how fast it compresses.00:40
ryu0it can improve IO speeds, especially on slower drives.00:40
ryu0as well as expanding your storage capactiy, if your files are largely uncompressed.00:40
ryu0which a lot of system files are.00:41
ryu0main exception is man pages.00:41
ryu0and, in some cases, kernel modules.00:41
runaphoxMmmmm. Seems interesting. I'll try to see what resources i have to learn more about it.00:41
ryu0read the ARCH wiki, honestly. a lot of ARCH's advice can be repurposed for other distros.00:42
runaphoxYeah. I do that from time to time.00:42
ryu0just be aware some of it is arch specific.00:42
ryu0anything related to systemd doesn't necessarily apply to crux.00:42
runaphoxAnd that is good.00:43
ryu0it *can* though, so keep that in mind.00:43
ryu0like if they both need to solve problem X with their own solution Y.00:43
runaphoxSearching the wiki right now.00:46
runaphoxAnd thanks for the for the advice.00:51
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RomsterFailed to download https://raw.githubusercontent.com/timcowchip/LXQT/master/udisks2/.signature: The requested URL returned error: 404 Not Found timcowchip ^ same with .footprint and .md5sum02:44
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: jack: moved source, gcc6 fixes, API fix for jack1 API compatibility.03:13
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: jack-audio-connection-kit: 0.124.1 -> 0.125.003:56
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: gobject-introspection: 1.50.0 -> 1.52.104:04
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just_funI didn't knew you could select ports from a repo this way: https://github.com/muphil/cruxports08:35
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rmullMaybe it's an extension that is custom to phi's httpup implementation12:38
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cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.3]: gstreamer-32: 1.10.3 -> 1.12.016:00
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.3]: gst-plugins-base-32: 1.10.3 -> 1.12.016:00
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: [notify] mjpegtools: refactor dependencies16:01
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: gst-plugins-good: 1.10.3 -> 1.12.016:01
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: gst-plugins-bad: 1.10.3 -> 1.12.016:01
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: gst-plugins-ugly: 1.10.3 -> 1.12.016:01
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: gst-python: 1.10.3 -> 1.12.016:01
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: gst-libav: 1.10.3 -> 1.12.016:01
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: gstreamer-vaapi: 1.10.3 -> 1.12.016:01
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: harfbuzz-icu: 1.4.4 -> 1.4.616:01
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: pygobject-gtk3: 3.21.0 -> 3.24.116:01
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: gstreamer: 1.10.3 -> 1.12.016:01
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: gst-plugins-base: 1.10.3 -> 1.12.016:01
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just_funrmull, you are right: https://github.com/muphil/cruxports/blob/master/httpup/httpup16:28
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: bitlbee: 3.4.1 -> 3.5.121:02
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: boehm-gc: 7.4.2 -> 7.4.421:03
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: cryptsetup: 1.7.3 -> 1.7.521:10
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: git-bashcompletion: 2.11.0 -> 2.12.221:18
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: git: 2.12.0 -> 2.12.221:18
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: htop: 2.0.0 -> 2.0.121:18
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: json-glib: 1.2.2 -> 1.2.821:20
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: lftp: 4.7.5 -> 4.7.721:25
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: usbredir: 0.7 -> 0.7.121:39
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: scummvm: 1.8.0 -> 1.9.021:39
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: strace: 4.15 -> 4.1621:40
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: gimp: 2.8.18 -> 2.8.2021:43
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: ack: 2.14 -> 2.1821:43
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: unrar: 5.4.5 -> 5.5.321:46
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: afl: 2.35b -> 2.41b21:46
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: arpon: 2.7.2 -> 3.0-ng21:51
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: wireshark: 2.2.5 -> 2.2.621:52
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: boxes: 1.1.2 -> 1.221:53
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: cacti: 0.8.8h -> 1.1.521:57
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: bind: 9.9.9-P6 -> 9.10.522:03
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: spice-gtk: 0.32 -> 0.3322:06
abenzthanks for updates22:06
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: babl: 0.1.16 -> 0.1.2422:07
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: feh: 2.14 -> 2.18.322:11
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: dokuwiki: 2015-08-10a -> 2017-02-19b22:15
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: cgroupfs-mount: 1.1 -> 1.422:15
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: docutils: 0.12 -> 0.13.122:19
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frinnstspaaam!22:21
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: gradm: 201507191652 -> 20170103191822:38
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: htmldoc: 1.8.28 -> 1.8.3022:48
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: libfilezilla: initial commit22:49
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: iw: 4.7 -> 4.922:51
john_cephalopodaI really wish that it was simpler to get ports into contrib.22:52
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: kexec-tools: 2.0.10 -> 2.0.1422:56
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: libseccomp: update URL23:01
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: libnet: 1.1.6 -> 1.2-rc323:04
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: libnet: update signature23:05
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: libssh: 0.7.3 -> 0.7.523:05
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: libiscsi: 1.15.0 -> 1.18.023:06
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: libmpdclient: 2.10 -> 2.1123:06
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: libva-intel: 1.7.2 -> 1.8.123:10
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: libev: 4.22 -> 4.2423:10
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: libvdpau-va-gl: 0.3.4 -> 0.4.223:11
joacimsomeone got a new prescription of happy pills?23:11
frinnsthaha my thoughts exactly23:11
frinnstare you unwell tek? :D23:11
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: lighttpd: 1.4.41 -> 1.4.4523:12
abenzthe onslaught continues!23:12
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: nethogs: update URL23:14
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: nethogs: update signature23:14
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: nmon: 15g -> 16g23:15
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: mpd: 0.20.1 -> 0.20.623:15
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: ncmpc: 0.24 -> 0.2723:16
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: ncftp: 3.2.5 -> 3.2.623:18
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: nbd: 3.11 -> 3.15.223:19
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: mercurial: 4.1 -> 4.223:20
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: p0f: 3.07b -> 3.09b23:23
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: ntp: 4.2.8p9 -> 4.2.8p1023:23
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: openvswitch: 2.6.1 -> 2.7.023:24
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: openvpn: 2.4.0 -> 2.4.123:25
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: p5-net-dns: 1.01 -> 1.0323:27
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: pidentd: update URL23:30
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: pptp: 1.7.2 -> 1.9.023:31
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john_cephalopodaWait...23:34
john_cephalopodaWhy so many updates right now?23:35
john_cephalopodaI thought that it might be ports of a single person, but it is several different maintainers.23:35
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: psybnc: 2.3.2-7 -> 2.3.2-923:38
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: redis: 3.2.6 -> 3.2.823:40
john_cephalopodaEven more... Incredible.23:40
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: remind: update URL23:40
john_cephalopodaI run ports -u, but as soon as it is finished, there's a new update! :D23:41
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: sslscan: 1.11.0 -> 1.11.1023:56
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