IRC Logs for #crux Monday, 2017-05-22

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brian|lfslooks like you need to add tinyxml to your repo00:04
brian|lfsfor kodi00:04
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jaegerbrian|lfs: nope. It's in contrib01:56
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brian|lfsI'll check again when I checked the other day I only saw it in Andrew02:53
brian|lfshttps://crux.nu/portdb/?a=search&q=tinyxml02:54
brian|lfsWhy is everyone saying its in contrib its not02:54
brian|lfslook for yourself02:54
jaegervindication/jaeger ~ $ prt-get info tinyxml | grep Path03:00
jaegerPath:         /usr/ports/contrib03:00
jaegervindication/jaeger ~ $ find /usr/ports -name tinyxml03:00
jaeger/usr/ports/contrib/tinyxml03:00
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jaegerWhy the portdb doesn't see it, I have no idea03:02
jaegerBut when everyone says it's there, why not look directly?03:03
brian|lfsI'm in contrib folder its not here03:13
brian|lfson my machine03:14
brian|lfsI can check my other box03:14
brian|lfsok this is weird03:15
brian|lfsI see it in contrib on my other machine03:15
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jaegerOdd indeed03:47
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brian|lfsI deleted my contrib fodler and did a ports -u and still no tinyxml in it oin this PC05:24
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frinnstis your contrib.rsync file ok? ie pointing to the 3.3 branch?06:32
Worksterbrian|lfs, that port got dropped awhile ago see the git history07:13
Worksterit's still in contrib/3.2 but not in contrib/3.307:13
Worksterhttps://crux.nu/gitweb/?p=ports/contrib.git;a=commitdiff;h=42866877a715ae4f9e22cafd94f35ff2868343fb07:18
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frinnstI still have it in my contrib on 2 boxes07:27
frinnstit wasnt readded again?07:27
just_funsomeone made a mess with the rsync driver ? :)07:27
frinnsthuh, indeed it's not deleted by ports -u07:28
frinnstodd07:28
Worksteryou sure you are not on crux 3.2?07:30
Worksterfor contrib07:30
frinnstyeah07:30
frinnstports -u doesnt delete the dir for me; rm -r tinyxml && ports -u doesnt readd it07:30
just_funhttps://crux.nu/bugs/index.php?do=details&task_id=139107:30
just_funThe step (2) was for this, as long as rsync doen't use --delete07:31
frinnstoh, forgot about that patch07:31
Worksteri wasn't even aware of that patch07:34
just_funI sneak it when frinnst was sleeping :)07:35
frinnstComment by Fredrik Rinnestam (frinnst) - Saturday, 11 March 2017, 00:43 GMT07:40
frinnstSeems to be working fine for me07:40
frinnst:D07:40
just_funAdding --delete shows tornadoweb, cdrdao, tinyxml, psybnc, cdrdao and READMEM going with the wind07:42
just_funand the .checkouts too :))07:43
just_funThe old ways had a reason.07:43
frinnstyup but you tend to forget *why* when dealing with ~10 year old code07:53
frinnstwhen its not documented why08:01
frinnstwonderful, my nvme "disk" should be turning up today - finally08:03
frinnstsamsung really has had problems keeping up with demand08:03
frinnstGB/s transferspeeds ftw08:04
abenzso.. frinnst08:08
abenzdoes that complete your ryzen build then?08:08
abenzdo you still get any segfaults/crashes ?08:08
frinnstno, still plan an additional 32gb ram08:08
frinnstyeah sometimes. its a common issue that amd will hopefully solve in the next round of bios updates08:09
abenzECC ?08:09
frinnstno :(08:09
frinnstim not too worried about it - as long as I dont need to build CRUX isos its not a problem08:09
abenzI think ecc will be supported eventually, might as well cash out for some now (if you plan to keep your PC on 24/7)08:09
abenzah, alright08:09
frinnstnot with my motherboard08:10
frinnstother boards have listed ecc as supported memory - but the ecc functions are turned off on those boards08:10
abenzah08:16
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: [notify] dropbear: update to 2017.7512:48
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: cups-filters: update to 1.14.012:48
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: nano: update to 2.8.412:48
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: poppler: update to 0.55.012:48
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: poppler-glib: update to 0.55.012:48
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: poppler-qt5: update to 0.55.012:48
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cruxbot[core.git/3.3]: Revert "rsync: improve rsync ports driver, thanks to just_fun for the patch. FS#1391"14:30
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frinnstwow, quite a few files got deleted when syncing after updating :)14:32
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just_funI did my best to keep as many ports as possible in the contrib collection :)14:51
frinnst:D14:52
frinnstodd we didnt catch it when testing14:53
jaegerexplains the tinyxml weirdness, though. Good times14:53
frinnstI noticed that a bunch of btrfs-progs-man tarballs got deleted. I usually notice things like that straight away14:53
frinnsthttp://www.chelsio.com/wp-content/uploads/resources/NVM_Express_Over_Fabrics.pdf porn14:54
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john_cephalopodaWireshark footprint is still broken...14:59
jaegerI guess I'll adopt tinyxml since tek dropped it15:06
juefrinnst: indeed, we should test such changes more carefully in the future15:25
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just_funjue, may I put forward another of my bright ideea, about testing?15:48
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pedja'<filename> must be a regular (non-symlink) file', setcap complains, and the file is not a symlink, but is symlink'ed from. hm16:03
pedjathat kind of makes sense, from security POV, I guess16:06
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frinnstoh now what.. m2 not detected. spent 30 minutes looking for the tiiiiiiiny screws to mount it in place - thought i'd thrown it out16:11
frinnstbut success! found it. not cleaning ftw16:11
frinnstalas, motherboard doesnt detect it now16:11
pedjasmart of me to keep nano around, for the (rare) occasions when vundle update breaks vim16:17
pedjausing nano after using vim for a while is...interesting...16:20
pedjaand that's from someone who uses maybe 2% of vim's awesome powers16:21
john_cephalopodaIs nano still broken in the iso?16:21
pedjadon't know, don't care16:22
john_cephalopodaI wrote a bug report, somebody wrote back that it is fixed, the iso wasn't updated though the last time I looked.16:23
john_cephalopodaHappened in 3.2 and 3.316:23
pedjawhat was wrong with it?16:23
pedjafound the FS#1383. missing library16:26
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john_cephalopodaYep, that's the one I reported.16:28
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frinnstwe wont release a new iso because nano was broken16:31
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frinnstbut jaegers updated iso should contain the fix (if he has rolled one since)16:32
frinnsthttps://crux.nu/gitweb/?p=system/iso.git;a=commit;h=3f7b4f97a570df77260afcdc35c37144efe2c8b016:32
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frinnstnope. fucking 960 evo is dead16:42
pedjahe rolled one just last week16:43
pedjafrinnst, sorry to hear that.16:48
frinnstpain in the ass sending it back16:49
jaegerfrinnst: that sucks16:50
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: tinyxml: adopted17:46
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runaphoxLol. sorry19:30
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darfojoacim: I see what you mean in this thread about the future of OmniOS https://pkg.omniti.com/omnios/release/p5i/0/system%2Fnetwork%2Fppp%2Fpppdump.p5i21:26
darfod'oh bad copy/paste21:27
darfohttp://lists.omniti.com/pipermail/omnios-discuss/2017-April/008699.html21:27
darfoReading through the thread it seems like there was a sudden change at omniti21:29
brian|lfsHuh contrib.git/3.3]: tinyxml: adopted21:35
brian|lfsYou told me it was on contrib?21:35
joacimi don't want it to end tho. need more sweet systems like that21:37
joacimit's a shame that the huge just gets bigger, and smaller alternatives just disappear21:38
john_cephalopodaWe have to take care that crux survives.21:41
john_cephalopodaIs there any way to help to speed up the packaging stuff?22:21
onoderacreating some template command22:23
john_cephalopodaHmm?22:25
john_cephalopodaI meant how I could contribute to crux packaging stuff (or anything crux-related really)22:31
jaegerbrian|lfs: read the logs if you're interested in why it was still there but at the same time, not still there22:33
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joacimi find it hard to take a mailinglist seriously when so many people top-post23:48
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john_cephalopodajoacim: Top-posting is enterprise standard. When I press "respond", my program automatically does that. Also when I write mail to people, they answer via top-post.23:50
joacimi find it offensive and people should stop23:50
john_cephalopodaThe only exception is in some mailing lists, where people copy-paste the significant parts, write a ">" in front of it and answer.23:50
joacimtop-posted replies are just annoying to read. bottom posting and similar schemes is much easier to read and respond to23:52
joacimeven in many clients that place the input cursor on the top23:52
jaegerjoacim: My ncase m1 has shipped23:53
jaegerwill probably take a few weeks to get here but I can't buy a mini-itx am4 motherboard right now anyway :)23:53
john_cephalopodajoacim: Write angry mails to Microsoft and Mozilla that they should put the cursor to the bottom.23:54
jaegerThunderbird is configurable, at least23:55
joacimi should place that in my signature. i will not do business with people that top-post23:55
joacimjaeger: you're going for am4 too?23:57
jaegerI feel similarly about some people whose signature is longer than most of their emails23:57
jaegerI plan to but I'll give that up if I can't ever buy a mini-itx am4 board23:57
joacimmines huge, due to my work23:57
joacimmy boss sent it to me and told me to use it23:57
joacimi think i saw talks about one23:58
joacimthought about getting a mini itx LGA1150 board too tho, but those are hard to find for a decent price now23:58
joacimto transfer my current system into a smaller case23:58
jaegerI don't even use a signature anymore, pretty much23:59

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