IRC Logs for #crux Tuesday, 2017-05-23

joacim"This announcement on the heals of a massive change in the freenas community make me wonder if there is any "backroom" pressure coming to companies supporting zfs?"00:07
joacimit's probably the shadow government00:07
jaegerjoacim: confuse them all by quoting the entire thread and bottom-posting00:08
joacimoh that would be glorious00:09
joacimi'm sure outlook would mess up and hide my post as if it belonged to a previous message00:10
john_cephalopodaWhat also confuses me is, when I write a mail like "Dear Mr. X, <a few dozen paragraphs with very precisely and eloquently defined messages>. Yours sincerely, <my name>" and the answer is like "Yes try again via the other user interface and or send it to me directly". Without any header or footer.00:11
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pedjawhat brain dead mail client are people using, so they have to 'c/p relevant parts'?00:26
pedjatechnical lists tend to frown upon top-posting, in my experience00:28
joacimreading the omnios archives now00:36
joacimabsolutely everyone top posts00:36
pedjayeah, I've seen it00:36
pedjait has a couple of my favorites, wall of text, with the reply 'OK' to the last sentence.00:39
pedjaor variant of it, 'Agreed' at the top, and then the whole previous message from the thread.00:42
pedjato what are they agreeing to, fuck if I know00:42
joacimjaeger: how about those biostar mini itx boards?01:54
joacimit's odd seeing biostar making boards likes this. thought they stopped making their boards 15-20 years ago01:55
joacimi stopped hearing about them at least01:55
jaegerjoacim: those are the only choice right now. And they're out of stock01:55
jaegereverywhere01:55
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frinnst jaeger: where does the psu go in that case?08:10
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pedjahttps://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757142 <--has anyone using hiDPI screens been bitten by this?13:30
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jaegerfrinnst: vertical front mount - it can fit either SFX or ATX but ATX limits the size of the GPU quite a bit13:49
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frinnstah, so thats what the extensioncord was for15:05
frinnstpedja: Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX15:07
frinnstawesome15:07
pedjaI like the developers rationale, 'you are using custom conf anyway, so what's a few other files you have to edit?'15:09
pedjaeven after the bug reporter said that the change basically breaks OOTB experience with properly configured Xorg15:11
pedjacommit message basically says 'custom dpi makes debugging harder, so remove the option to use it'15:13
pedja96dpi ought to be enough for everyone15:14
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: [notify] flash-player-plugin: update to 25.0.0.17115:15
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: [notify] sane: update to 1.0.2715:15
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pedjaI am trying to break monolith xorg.conf to xorg.conf.d snippets. every section ('Monitor', 'Device' etc) gets it's own snippet?15:20
pedjaeven 'Screen'?15:21
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pedjaI guess I'll found out on the next reboot16:05
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: sqlite3: update to 3.19.016:19
cruxbot[core.git/3.3]: diffutils: update to 3.616:21
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: sqlite3: signature fix18:00
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: libtiff: updated to 4.0.818:15
jaegerfrinnst: http://abload.de/img/img_0895r8zp9.jpg http://i.imgur.com/S0diM1X.jpg18:24
jaegerboth PSU setups18:24
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frinnstnice18:49
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jaegerI plan to go with SFX but it's nice that there are both options19:00
joacimdoubt it can fit my full length graphics card19:03
joacimits a few cm taller than normal too19:03
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joacimis wannacry some y2k tier bs?19:07
joacimhavent had a single customer with that yet19:07
jaegerIt can fit some long GPUs but definitely not all19:09
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tilmanjoacim: if you kept your windowses patched you were safe afaik20:03
tilmanjoacim: microsoft patched the holes in february for supported systems (windows 7 and later iirc)20:04
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pedjadisabling smbv1 and not clicking on phishing e-mails also helps, iirc :)20:35
pedjaspeaking of Samba, I've seen mentions of the imminent security update for it, which might or might not be wannacry related20:36
joacimtilman: yeah. i guess the automatic updates covered most people20:41
pedjathe job of the person that takes away commit bits from FreeBSD developers who were dormant for more than 18 months is 'grim reaper'. cute20:41
pedjathe job title*20:42
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pedja'use wireless mice/keyboard, get with the modern times', they said. https://www.bastille.net/research/vulnerabilities/mousejack/21:50
pedjahow do I scare some owner of G900 enough so he sells me it for 20 euros?21:55
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brian|lfstell them it can be hacked from 100M away23:07
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