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| frinnst | cisco 5506 rackmount kit - what a fucking scam | 09:52 |
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| frinnst | >$200 | 09:52 |
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| pedja | someone on the ML is having UEFI issues installing Crux on MBA. is EFI that fiddly to set up, or is it some Apple thing? | 16:10 |
| pedja | I know jaeger has an iLaptop, but I don't remember if he is dual booting it or not. | 16:12 |
| pedja | only variant of UEFI I played with is OVMF/edk2 one. | 16:14 |
| jaeger | apple's UEFI is slightly more fiddly than regular UEFI | 16:14 |
| pedja | surprise, surprise :) | 16:15 |
| jaeger | with that said, usually using apple's UEFI partition rather than creating a new one is fine, and installing grub2 via 'grub-install /path/to/efi/partition' | 16:15 |
| jaeger | Sometimes for reasons I cannot explain, it takes more than one attempt to get the mac to see the grub boot entry | 16:15 |
| pedja | jaeger, check the ML post for details, if you can be bothered | 16:16 |
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| jaeger | I'll check it when I can, sorta busy with work currently | 16:17 |
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| pedja | Ah, yes, I keep forgetting you are across the pond | 16:18 |
| jaeger | Indeed. :) Easy to respond to quick things on IRC but less time to look at deeper stuff | 16:18 |
| joacim | what if you use refit | 16:18 |
| joacim | is it still fiddly? | 16:18 |
| jaeger | no idea | 16:19 |
| pedja | isn't rEFInd the recommended fork of reFIT? | 16:20 |
| jaeger | I believe so | 16:20 |
| joacim | think i used that when i installed gentoo on my macbook | 16:26 |
| joacim | that was back in 2006-2007 tho | 16:26 |
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| joacim | whats up with the shitposting on the mailinglist | 18:58 |
| joacim | completely derails the topic | 18:59 |
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| john_cephalopoda | I get a monthly reminder that I am in the mailing list but I never get any mails :D | 19:18 |
| dbrooke | I get the mails but no monthly reminder (-8 | 19:24 |
| dbrooke | maybe you're not in the correct list? | 19:25 |
| john_cephalopoda | Probably | 19:29 |
| john_cephalopoda | crux-devel | 19:31 |
| john_cephalopoda | Hmm, would it make sense to make prt-get a shell script? | 19:36 |
| pedja | 'Lot's of reasons to buy Mac, like technical superiority' what | 19:39 |
| john_cephalopoda | pedja: Nobody has a glowing logo of a bitten apple, thus it must be superior. | 19:39 |
| joacim | let's assume you bought a mac | 19:40 |
| joacim | the seasons change, and you feel like trying out a distribution of gnu plus linux, and your computer is a mac | 19:40 |
| joacim | what do you do | 19:40 |
| joacim | do you run out and buy thinkpad with a bunch of stickers? | 19:40 |
| joacim | or do you use the mac that you already own | 19:41 |
| joacim | derailing the list with bullshit like "lol mac" is pretty lame. Has nothing to do with the topic | 19:41 |
| pedja | trying to impress the girl with 'edgy' attitude? | 19:42 |
| pedja | yeah, that works | 19:42 |
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| joacim | it is ok to derail the topic because of her gender? | 19:44 |
| pedja | of course not | 19:44 |
| joacim | and when you're annoyed about it being derailed, you get accused of trying to impress her? | 19:44 |
| joacim | i dont know why certain people have to leave shitty comments every time someone mentions a mac | 19:45 |
| john_cephalopoda | joacim: My line about the glowing logo was referencing to pedja's line, not to the mailing list thread, which I have finished reading now. | 19:45 |
| joacim | i wasnt commenting about your comment tho. | 19:46 |
| john_cephalopoda | Although it is probably right that Apple products are overpriced and not really good, this doesn't really have a place in a mailing list thread about UEFI problems. | 19:46 |
| joacim | annoyed because when i get a new email notification, i kinda expect something other than fanboy comments | 19:47 |
| joacim | usually, people have issues when they're forced to prove how they're overpriced | 19:48 |
| joacim | the only part of the mac market that is really overpriced is the used market. there is no reason for a 5 year old laptop to still be 4-600 dollars | 19:48 |
| pedja | joacim, my comment about 'edgy' was directed to their lame comments. | 19:48 |
| joacim | ah ok | 19:49 |
| joacim | thought it was at me | 19:49 |
| joacim | as in my frustration was edgy =) | 19:49 |
| john_cephalopoda | Oh, iPhone vs. pretty much any phone, their netbook vs that thinner, lighter, faster, cheaper ASUS netbook, their crappy watch vs. Pebble Time etc. | 19:49 |
| john_cephalopoda | I don't really want to continue discussing that topic though, since it has been discussed a million times already and leads to nothing. | 19:49 |
| joacim | asus netbooks have funky core m3 processors | 19:50 |
| joacim | not the low voltage i5s | 19:50 |
| joacim | the closest comparision would be something like the x1 or xps, which are all in the same price range as the macbooks | 19:50 |
| joacim | + the returns on those are crazy. i never get returns on macbooks, but i get loads of ux305s. the ux330 line hasn't been bad tho | 19:51 |
| john_cephalopoda | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl5TUw7sUBs :D | 19:51 |
| john_cephalopoda | Wait, netbook was the wrong name. It was an "ultrabook". | 19:52 |
| pedja | i have a netbook | 19:52 |
| john_cephalopoda | I would never buy an ultrabook tbh, they look like they will just break into two when you sit on them :D | 19:52 |
| pedja | HP Mini 100 | 19:52 |
| pedja | so don't sit on them, then :) | 19:53 |
| joacim | my thinkpad x300 feels pretty solid | 19:53 |
| joacim | never seen a bent macbook air either =) | 19:53 |
| joacim | and we sell a lot of them | 19:53 |
| john_cephalopoda | Oh, nice. I had a T-61 once but the nvidia chip died :( | 19:53 |
| joacim | 200 macbook airs last month | 19:53 |
| joacim | it seems like people mostly recommend older thinkpads that only have a basic intel graphics chip | 19:54 |
| john_cephalopoda | Now I got a 15" Dell Latitude. Nice and stable. Yet I somehow got barely visible dents in the screen. | 19:55 |
| pedja | I saw a lot of excitement on Twitter few days ago about new Apple iGadgets | 19:55 |
| john_cephalopoda | Don't they offer an Alexa/Google Home clone now? | 19:55 |
| john_cephalopoda | That looks like a marshmallow. | 19:55 |
| joacim | thought about getting a latitude, but i didn't care enough about having a laptop to spend 1000 dollars on a new one | 19:55 |
| joacim | a used one would be nice tho =) | 19:55 |
| john_cephalopoda | The quality is quite good. I used an Inspiron before, which was quite okay, too. But the screen broke and other stuff broke (after 5 years or so). | 19:57 |
| teK___ | rmull: done | 20:04 |
| john_cephalopoda | compat-32/mesa3d-32 doesn't compile for me, it throws some error. | 20:05 |
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| pedja | m/b pr0n http://images.anandtech.com/doci/11505/x399-taichi.jpg | 20:11 |
| teK___ | huch RAM does it swallow at max? | 20:11 |
| john_cephalopoda | No LEDs? | 20:12 |
| john_cephalopoda | ;รพ | 20:12 |
| pedja | teK___, no word about max yet | 20:16 |
| rmull | teK___: Much obliged | 20:17 |
| teK___ | welcome | 20:18 |
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| jaeger | john_cephalopoda: what error, specifically? | 20:45 |
| jaeger | joacim: my AM4 cooler bracket arrived today, can finally start putting my ryzen build together in the M1 | 20:45 |
| joacim | nice =) | 20:45 |
| john_cephalopoda | jaeger: Let me see... | 20:46 |
| joacim | how long hve you had the other parts? | 20:46 |
| joacim | must suck having to wait to put it all together | 20:46 |
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| jaeger | a week or so | 20:53 |
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| john_cephalopoda | Here is the mesa3d-32 build error > https://bpaste.net/show/f1d2a6d42315 | 21:17 |
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