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| Workster | john_cephalopoda, http://crux.ster.zone/packages/3.3/mesa3d-32%2317.1.2-1.pkg.tar.xz | 00:32 |
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| brian|lfs | Workster, how did you get mesa3d-32 to compile | 02:19 |
| brian|lfs | oh it was updated today lol | 02:19 |
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| frinnst | jaeger: pics! | 07:17 |
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| joacim | frinnst: of what? | 09:59 |
| joacim | oh | 09:59 |
| joacim | pics! | 10:00 |
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| pedja | his new Ryzen rig, I presume | 10:32 |
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| jaeger | yeah, I'll put some up when it's done. Right now it's not in the case, just hooked things up for testing | 14:11 |
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| frinnst | http://www.ericdubay.com/?cat=16 hahaha holy fuck | 14:20 |
| frinnst | "im a fucking idiot. let me create a webpage and carefully point out how ignorant and stupid i am" | 14:20 |
| DaViruz | he is truly a moron. every single one of his arguments is entirely idiotic | 14:27 |
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| rmull | Probably just trolling... | 15:48 |
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| john_cephalopoda | #7 "without any allowance for curvature."... There's a bridge in the USA that is a few hundred meters long, so they had to take the curvature of the earth into account | 16:14 |
| john_cephalopoda | Although the columns at either end are perpendicular to gravity, they are not in laser measurements :D | 16:15 |
| john_cephalopoda | This is so stupid... that guy just ignores that the water curves with the ball and that the atmosphere moves with about the same speed as the earth rotates. | 16:17 |
| jaeger | The simplest proof that the earth is NOT flat is that if it were, cats would have pushed everything off the edge millenia ago | 16:19 |
| john_cephalopoda | :D | 16:20 |
| pedja | jaeger, I am totally stealing that :) | 16:32 |
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| jaeger | :) | 16:40 |
| pedja | yup, that looks flat to me https://earth.google.com/web/@-1.86752164,-40.56358961,-7704.28369443a,23331630.12884617d,35y,0h,0t,0r (Chrome only) | 17:08 |
| pedja | ah, yes, I forgot. 'fake' | 17:09 |
| john_cephalopoda | Is Trump creating a fake earth on the outside of the hollow earth? Who knows? | 17:14 |
| pedja | he thinks that global warming is a Chinese hoax. It would be better if he was flat-earther, instead :) | 17:17 |
| pedja | I wonder what Venn diagram between FE and anti-vaxers looks like. Is that the same crowd? | 17:18 |
| pedja | 'I don't understand it, hence it can't be true' | 17:19 |
| john_cephalopoda | China is one of the big polluters. | 17:19 |
| john_cephalopoda | Why would they invent something that forces them to restructure they good-working infrastructures? | 17:19 |
| pedja | to harm 'merica, of course. Duh. | 17:19 |
| pedja | or something | 17:20 |
| john_cephalopoda | pedja: I don't think that there is a big overlap. FE is plain stupid while anti-vaxers mix valid and invalid arguments to stand against vaccinating. | 17:21 |
| pedja | what are valid arguments against vaccination? | 17:22 |
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| pedja | that it doesn't always work? that it might have unintended effects? | 17:28 |
| pedja | newsflash: humans are highly complex biological machines | 17:29 |
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| pedja | the problem with that particular discussion is that it's more emotional than factual | 17:30 |
| john_cephalopoda | There are some risks associated with it. | 17:30 |
| john_cephalopoda | Also a lot of people still cite the study that turned out to be faked and cost the person who made it his medical degree. | 17:31 |
| pedja | there are some risks associated with *everything* | 17:31 |
| john_cephalopoda | Some people overreact. | 17:32 |
| pedja | confirmation bias | 17:32 |
| john_cephalopoda | I am pro-vax. It's good that all those horrible things are slowly dying out. | 17:32 |
| john_cephalopoda | How was that thing called where they had to put children into iron lungs? Polio? | 17:33 |
| john_cephalopoda | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Iron_Lung_ward-Rancho_Los_Amigos_Hospital.gif | 17:34 |
| pedja | damn, that's sad | 17:36 |
| john_cephalopoda | "It is hoped that vaccination efforts and early detection of cases will result in global eradication of the disease by 2018." | 17:37 |
| pedja | 1988:350k cases.2016:42. no, the vaccines don't work. | 17:37 |
| pedja | it's mind-boggling, the stupidity of general population | 17:39 |
| john_cephalopoda | Not general population, a part of general population. | 17:39 |
| john_cephalopoda | I think that we usually think too bad of the rest of the humanity :þ | 17:40 |
| pedja | just the majority of ones I've met :) | 17:40 |
| john_cephalopoda | For example, people were asked if they would continue working if they would receive an unconditional basic income. 80% said they would. | 17:41 |
| john_cephalopoda | Then they were asked, if they think that their neighbour would continue working. 80% said no. | 17:41 |
| pedja | work is not just about the money, it is about sense of self-worth, too | 17:42 |
| john_cephalopoda | The thing I want to point out here is, that people mostly think that they are the morally better and that other people are worse. | 17:43 |
| pedja | but that implies non soul-crushing job | 17:43 |
| john_cephalopoda | pedja: They asked if they would keep working, not if they would keep their current job. | 17:43 |
| john_cephalopoda | If I'd get an unconditional basic income, I'd probably experiment with some stuff for a few months and then found a company. | 17:44 |
| pedja | any ideas for startup you'd share :) ? | 17:45 |
| pedja | Serbia has, afaik, pretty healthy startup culture, despite the government efforts | 17:51 |
| pedja | in major cities | 17:51 |
| pedja | the government prefers to subsidize companies that open sweatshops across the country in smaller cities, tho | 17:56 |
| pedja | nice 'business' model. they get 10k euros per employee, pay them 200 for 3 months, then fire them. | 18:00 |
| pedja | and with 26% unemployment rate, there is no shortage of working force. | 18:02 |
| pedja | my 15 minutes for rant of the day are up :) | 18:04 |
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| john_cephalopoda | pedja: Maybe something with mycelium as isolation like ecovative does. | 19:13 |
| jaeger | did some build tests on the new setup just out of curiosity to see the difference between various -jX levels for a decently-sized package (firefox in this case) | 19:30 |
| jaeger | http://sprunge.us/DTQe | 19:30 |
| jaeger | nothing really scientific | 19:30 |
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| frinnst | what kernel? | 20:18 |
| jaeger | 4.11.4 | 20:24 |
| john_cephalopoda | jaeger: How many threads does your CPU have? | 20:36 |
| frinnst | 8+8 | 20:38 |
| frinnst | 1700x, right? | 20:40 |
| jaeger | yeah, 1700x. 8c/16t | 20:41 |
| crash_ | nice | 20:49 |
| crash_ | 12min for firefox sounds nice though | 20:50 |
| jaeger | Not bad at all in my opinion | 21:10 |
| jaeger | Mostly what was interesting to me was the curve | 21:10 |
| crash_ | how long did firefox take on your old setup? | 21:13 |
| jaeger | I don't remember but I can test it, still have several different systems | 21:13 |
| jaeger | i7-6700k, i5-6600k, ryzen 7 1700x | 21:14 |
| crash_ | you got a lot of "power" around :) | 21:32 |
| john_cephalopoda | . o O ( Make jaeger's computers the official crux-bin build servers ;þ ) | 21:32 |
| jaeger | frinnst: http://imgur.com/a/0jPqH | 21:36 |
| jaeger | crash_: I've also got a vmware home lab, a 24-thread mac pro, couple other random machines :) | 21:36 |
| jaeger | I don't do a lot of binary package building outside of the ISOs but the ISOs do get built on my vmware cluster | 21:37 |
| jaeger | frinnst: I didn't try too hard on the cable management and I'll probably do some tests in the future to determine if that fan configuration works best... but it's stable so far and gets up to 76C at full load in aida64 | 21:38 |
| jaeger | 23.8C ambient in this room | 21:39 |
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| frinnst | nice | 21:45 |
| frinnst | jaeger: have you updated the bios? amd has some stupid temp offset | 21:46 |
| jaeger | It shipped with the latest available | 21:46 |
| frinnst | what mobo? | 21:46 |
| jaeger | It was labeled "AGESA update" on the biostar website, I think it's the one with the temp fix | 21:46 |
| jaeger | Biostar X370GTN | 21:46 |
| frinnst | ah | 21:46 |
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| frinnst | but you need to replace that blasphemous geforce gpu asap! | 21:54 |
| joacim | just get a motherboard with an aspeed chip | 22:01 |
| joacim | who needs more than 16MB anyways | 22:01 |
| john_cephalopoda | 16K memory? You will never get that full! | 22:04 |
| john_cephalopoda | That's 16000 letters! That's like 10 books in memory at the same time! | 22:06 |
| jaeger | frinnst: feel free to send me an RX580 if you can find one that cryptocurrency miners haven't already got :D | 22:11 |
| frinnst | :D | 22:13 |
| rmull | john_cephalopoda: lol, love those comparisons | 22:19 |
| john_cephalopoda | It's interesting and sad how big things are today. | 22:23 |
| john_cephalopoda | Once, a whole OS plus office suite fitted on a floppy. Now a minimal OS is 14 GB. | 22:23 |
| john_cephalopoda | I'm quite young, so I haven't lived when an OS fitted onto a flopy. I can only imagine those days. | 22:25 |
| jaeger | frinnst: I was going to get an RX580 and go all AMD with this build but the RX*80 prices are insane thanks to cryptocurrency. So I opted for a GTX 1060 (750Ti was temporary) | 22:28 |
| frinnst | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=radeonsi-win-catching&num=2 | 22:33 |
| jaeger | nice | 22:36 |
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