IRC Logs for #crux Saturday, 2017-06-17

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cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: thunderbird: updated to 52.2.000:45
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: cairo: updated to 1.15.600:45
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: virtualbox-extpack: FS#140700:54
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cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.3]: curl-32: 7.54.0 -> 7.54.107:41
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.3]: nspr-32: 1.14 -> 4.1507:41
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.3]: nss-32: 3.30.2 -> 3.3107:41
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.3]: [notify] libxml2-32: security update to 2.9.4-6807:41
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.3]: libxml2-python-32: 2.9.4 -> 2.9.4-6807:41
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cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.3]: cairo-32: 1.15.4 -> 1.15.607:50
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: jack-audio-connection-kit: fix md5sum07:53
Romsteri must be crazy building chromium with -j2409:02
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: [notify] nodejs: new dependency for chromium11:16
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: [notify] chromium: 56.0.2924.28 -> 59.0.3071.104 new dependency nodejs11:16
Romsterfor those that don't want to wait to build it.11:20
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john_cephalopoda[john@metis ~]$ mpv dvd://11:59
john_cephalopodaSegmentation fault11:59
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just_funjohn_cephalopoda, I had to rebuild mpv because of ffmpeg stuff. I'm not sure why.12:02
john_cephalopodaRebuilt it many times.12:04
just_funDoes nodejs still have "base" modules that "click like" some facebook pages?12:05
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john_cephalopodaChrome fails to build
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john_cephalopodaOh, looks like it needs nodejs now.12:13
Romsterdoes no one read the commit and the mailing list.12:20
Romsterand even prt-get deptree chromium12:21
Romsterthe npn package manager for nodejs is disabled just_fun12:22
Romsterrevdep is your friend after a sysup12:22
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just_funThank you, Romster, for taking care of npm. No one read these days. Everybody is writing... :p Still, no excuse for me, but it is easier to "a pologize" this way.13:08
Romsterit's fine. someone had to do something, even though it's not my browser port someone has to keep it updated.13:13
just_funRomster, if I have to characterize you with one word, that will be: generous.13:28
john_cephalopodaRomster: I haven't got my mail client open all the time, so I didn't see that mail at the time I wrote the message about chrome.13:46
john_cephalopodaAlso thanks for updating it.13:47
john_cephalopodaOh, and I didn't see the cruxbot messages.13:48
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john_cephalopodaI got big problems playing dvds.14:29
john_cephalopodaReally inconvenient. I have to use a lubuntu live iso in order to watch movies...14:31
][_R_][<just_fun> Does nodejs still have "base" modules that "click like" some facebook pages? <-- what was this about?  Google isn't helping me here.14:49
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just_fun][_R_][, Nothing specific. Just rumours... :p15:01
][_R_][... there are multiple points in this article where I suspect the author has no idea what he's talking about.  The title certainly didn't give me confidence, and his means of counting the amount of modules installed is producing a very bloated number (as it's counting directories, not modules)15:04
just_funThen, I apologize for the fake news...15:10
][_R_][I think that's a joke article15:11
just_funI've probably heard it from someone who read it :)15:11
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tilmanthe "Express" paragraph15:14
tilmantree .. | count15:14
tilmantree .. | lines15:14
tilmani'm afraid i don't get the js jokes though15:16
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tilmanlol, when he bitches about "glimmer" isn't documented and his screenshots are showing searches for "glitter" instead15:56
tilman(no, i'm not a very slow reader)15:57
tilman"I opened a selection of these in Atom, then opened them in Sublime after Atom froze." :D:D:D15:57
tilman"I opened up babel-core in vim, then turned off my computer because Ctrl-C wasn’t exiting, then opened babel-core in Sublime Text 2." <3 <3 <#16:00
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: chromium-pepperflash: Switch to Adobe's PPAPI plugin, update to
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: chromium-pepperflash: fixed signatures16:05
frinnstIf the entire recorded history of humanity could fit in a single megabyte, then Babel alone would consist of SEVENTEEN times the entire recorded history of humanity. Just so that we can avoid writing JavaScript.16:12
frinnst" A coding slip-up so unforgivable that I nearly threw out my MacBook and swore off web development forever."16:13
frinnsthe should do that. it would only benefit humanity16:13
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frinnstah it IS a joke16:16
jaegerjohn_cephalopoda: care to elaborate on "big problems playing dvds"?16:19
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frinnst13:59 <john_cephalopoda> [john@metis ~]$ mpv dvd://16:20
frinnst13:59 <john_cephalopoda> Segmentation fault16:20
jaegerjohn_cephalopoda: add --enable-dvdread to the ./waf line in mpv's Pkgfile, install libdvdread and libdvdcss, and rebuild mpv16:20
jaegerthen mpv dvdread:// works16:20
frinnstits easier to just complain :p16:20
jaegerOR install libdvdcss and libdvdnav and add --enable-dvdnav to the ./waf line, rebuild mpv, and mpv dvd:// should work (I don't use dvdnav, though)16:21
jaegermpv's dvd support is disabled by default16:21
jaegercomplaining I don't necessarily mind, if there's truly a problem... but it only took like 3 minutes to troubleshoot16:22
frinnstfirefox 55 beta lists what extensions are "legacy". wonder how many will never be updated to the new scheme16:22
pedjaif they fuck up Tree Style Tabs, I'll be pissed16:26
frinnst"plain text links", "context search" - extensions i've used for like ~15 years16:26
pedja56 is when they switch to Web Extensions?16:27
frinnst57 i think16:28
pedjanew GUI, new extension API, Servo. they are busy16:29
pedja54 does feel faster on my potato 'puter, tho16:30
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: portdbc: fixed source, added patch from FS#140416:37
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: libgcrypt: Update to 1.7.716:40
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: gnupg: Update to 2.1.2116:40
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: gnupg, libgcrypt: signatures16:40
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tilmanfrinnst: when we complained about that picture of some guy i thought the article might be serious17:01
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j_vis the Packager field in Pkgfiles going away? thought i read something about that a while ago, but can't figure out where it came from.17:13
frinnstwell he IS a webdevel so I thought it was serious until i read the comments17:18
jaegerIt is over time, yes17:46
j_vso removing Packager field in my Pkgfiles is 'doing the right thing'? or at least not a bad thing?17:50
j_vi'm working on purging duplicate ports from my repo, and trying to do some cleanup at the same time17:50
pedja.signature instead of .md5sum is on the horizon, too, iirc17:51
j_vpedja: good point.. that is on my todo list as well, thanks for reminding me17:52
jaegeryes, feel free to remove the packager field17:53
j_vok, thanks for the info17:54
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: wireshark: fixed footprint. Closes FS#141518:13
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chinarulezzzteK_, update please wireshark to
chinarulezzz2.2.6 contains a few CVE.18:54
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frinnstchinarulezzz: im on it, tek is afk19:14
frinnst idle     : 9 days 21 hours 12 mins 14 secs19:14
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: wireshark: updated to 2.2.719:17
chinarulezzzfrinnst, thank you.19:48
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darfoApplied patches to my WinXP KVM.
darfoFirst ones since 2014.20:52
darfoI feel so much safer now ;)20:52
ryu0darfo: surprise. they really were those oh so beloved telemetry updates.20:53
darfothen jokes on me cuz that webpage says they are for security updates20:54
darfoWhat new misbehaviour can I expect from my KVM now?20:54
ryu0i was joking, but who knows these days?20:54
darfooic. I looked at each of them and they seemed legit for security.20:55
darfoi keep a WinXP KVM around so I can do yearly map updates to my Garmin GPS20:56
frinnstI doubt you are at risk :)20:56
ryu0after what they did with later windows, would you really trust them not to sneak extras in?20:56
ryu0ACTION shrugs.20:56
frinnstI have an old XP with java6 at work to use with old hardware kvm stuff20:56
ryu0frinnst: it doesn't work with linux java?20:57
frinnstsome do, others require active-x and shit like that20:57
frinnstSo just easier to use xp20:57
ryu0ancient hardware?20:57
darforyu0: i keep a list of the ones they've tried to sneak in to Win 8.1. I have two machines in the house that use that OS.20:57
frinnstyeah from 2011-2012 etc20:57
ryu0that's not too old. i'm surprised it wouldn't work with java 7 at least.20:58
frinnstbl460c gen1/gen7 requires java6 iirc20:58
darfofrinnst: i keep all the Win machines as up-to-date as possible and never seem to have trouble with them. Others who don't seem to have problems.21:00
darfobut I review each update and only apply those that fix or secure something21:01
darfoI was glad when Win 10 update became non-free as they quit trying to sneak in so much bullsnot21:01
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brian|lfsno dbus errors on my chromium21:27
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john_cephalopodajaeger, frinnst: I enabled dvdread in mpv and it worked. My issue was that it is _suddenly_ disabled. It was not disabled for the last 1.5 years.22:29
john_cephalopodaSame for libcdio.22:29
jaegermpv's waf configure script says it's disabled by default. Maybe  it's a new change, maybe not, no idea... but it's upstream22:30
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john_cephalopodaIt worked in the previous versions, so apparently a new change. Suddenly changing what's built by default is not what I would expect. And just outputting a segfault instead of telling me that it is not available (as it does with cdda - which makes the missing cdda protocol handler issue WAY easier to debug) is not helpful at all.22:32
jaegerfeel free to complain to the mpv dev(s) if you like22:35
jaegerMaybe they had a good reason22:35
john_cephalopodaWell, I'll make my own mpv package, that takes that into account.22:44
jaegeryou could also email the maintainer suggesting that the contrib package enable it22:45
john_cephalopodaI already mailed the maintainer22:47
john_cephalopoda7 days ago.22:47
john_cephalopodaJust checked out the mpv changelog, apparently a recent change.22:50
j_vhas there ever been any talk about trying to break up the texlive port into smaller chunks?23:11
john_cephalopodaI suck at bash scripting. Gotta try to get this scripted properly tomorrow.23:11
john_cephalopoda(mpv, not texlive)23:11
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frinnsthaha so fucking hyper23:42

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