IRC Logs for #crux Monday, 2017-07-03

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frinnstholy shit my work computer is slow07:34
frinnstthats what you get for spending 3 weeks with a ryzen07:35
crash_i thin you need some Zen? :P07:36
frinnsti7 are for peasants!07:37
crash_:)07:46
frinnstI wonder why we have a ticket system.. return from 3 weeks and ~2200 tickets untouched07:47
frinnstjust noise but would be nice if someone other than me would clean it up07:47
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frinnsthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9j-sfP9GUU08:38
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john_cephalopodaHey, I can't connect to crux.nu.10:04
juefrinnst: the behaviour of the nfs rc-script is correct, calling rpc.nfsd with nproc=0 stops all threads10:09
juefrinnst: but I've to admit that at a first sight it looks strange10:10
john_cephalopodaMISSING   -rw-r--r--      root/root       usr/share/virtualbox/bin/src/vboxdrv/Module.symvers (EMPTY)10:22
john_cephalopodaNEW       -rw-r--r--      root/root       usr/share/virtualbox/bin/src/vboxdrv/Module.symvers10:22
john_cephalopoda=======> ERROR: Buildi10:22
john_cephalopodaHmmm...10:22
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pekka10Is crux server down? Cant load http://crux.nu/12:41
john_cephalopodapekka10: Same for me.12:42
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john_cephalopodapekka10: Here is an archived version: https://web.archive.org/web/20170308044229/https://crux.nu/12:51
pekka10:D works for me. I just need the handbook for Crux 3.312:53
john_cephalopodapekka10: That site backup is from 2013, so it might contain outdated stuff.12:54
john_cephalopodaFor example, only the 3.0 handbook.12:54
pekka10I found Hanbook for 3.2 :/ Maybe there isnt that much different from 3.2 to 3.3..12:56
john_cephalopodapekka10: Depends on what you want to do.12:57
john_cephalopodapekka10: What information do you need from there?12:57
john_cephalopodaThe installation part hasn't changed for a long time.12:58
pekka10I want to test how to make my own Pkgfile, see how it work12:58
john_cephalopodaAh, that's simple to do. Just look at the existing ones, e.g. in /usr/ports/core. Syntax is easy.13:01
john_cephalopodaThen you make a Pkgfile in that format, drop it into a new folder and then build it.13:02
john_cephalopodaFor building, you use "fakeroot pkgmk -d". Installing is done with pkgadd.13:02
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pedjafrinnst, if you are curious how would key signing ceremony look like in a tv show, checkout Blacklist:Redemption episode 4 :)13:28
pedjaI like how one of the PIN's for what, I presume, is the crypto card, is 12313:34
pedjaSpaceballs would be proud :)13:35
john_cephalopodaWho is responsible for the crux.nu site hosting?13:56
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rmullteK_: Libreoffice update is available14:19
john_cephalopodarmull: crux.nu is down, even the package sources.14:24
rmullYep, down for me too14:27
dbrookehttp://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/crux.nu14:28
john_cephalopodahttp://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/downforeveryoneorjustme.com :D14:38
dbrooke(-814:42
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john_cephalopodaCrux could get mirrors. So the packages would be available, even when crux.nu is down.15:44
john_cephalopodaI'm not sure though, how that would be done in /usr/bin/ports. Maybe the repo config could contain alternative URLs, that are chosen if the #1 source is down.15:45
][_R_][Is there a package that contains the handbook?15:48
][_R_][For local reading?15:48
frinnstwow, chromium needs nodejs?15:49
frinnstthats somewhat revolting15:49
][_R_][https://github.com/nwjs/nw.js/wiki/how-node.js-is-integrated-with-chromium15:51
][_R_][Oh wait, ignore that15:51
just_fun_http://ftp.morpheus.net/pub/linux/crux/loop/crux/handbook.txt15:52
frinnstits on the iso15:52
frinnstseems a switch or router is down for our provider15:53
nullspoo1Was just about to ask.15:53
frinnst09:14 -!- _________mavric6 [~mavrick61@213.132.111.1] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]15:53
frinnstnot much we can do about it unfortunately15:54
frinnsti'll send him an email and ask15:54
nullspoonMeh. These things happen.15:55
nullspoonIt does however inspire me to set up a mirror. :)15:55
just_fun_CRUX needs a tor driver. I'm not sure how could we lived without.15:55
frinnstdevel.crux.guru is the new server :-)15:56
nullspoonwell fekk15:56
pedjahttps://deftly.net/posts/2017-06-01-measuring-the-weight-of-an-electron.html15:57
nullspoonWow. Sounds a little like building some of the bigger python or go projects.16:00
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pedjait's nice to see that an old virtualbox-bin port for 4.x still works with 5.1.x16:31
pedjaOVA/OVF standard is not that standard, it seems.16:33
pedjaVmware and vbox have their own little quirks when you export ova from them.16:35
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][_R_][OVA?17:29
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pedjaOpen Virtualization Appliance17:47
pedjatarball with disk image and ovf metadata file renamed to ova, basically :)17:49
pedjamost tools work fine with the ones exported from Vmware, with Vbox is more hit and miss17:51
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john_cephalopodaHmm, the crux manual could be converted into a manpage and shipped with crux, so you can do "man crux" and read the manual :þ18:11
pedjaif you convert it to markdown, you can then convert it to whatever you want (pdf, epub) :)18:15
ryu0ACTION catches john_cephalopoda's tongue and paints it blue.18:15
john_cephalopoda♪♪♪ I saw a cephalopod's tongue and it was painted blue ♪♪♪18:16
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pedjaas an experiment while back, I converted Crux wiki to mkdocs18:21
john_cephalopodaThe wiki could be improved. I really like ArchWiki and how easy it is to find information about all kinds of things.18:26
john_cephalopodaThe crux wiki has quite some nice information, but it is unordered and a bit difficult to overlook.18:26
frinnstpedja: haha just read the electron post18:27
frinnstwow18:27
just_fun_frinnst, the handbook is edited as html?18:31
frinnstwiki markup18:45
frinnsthttps://gist.github.com/55d0338ba6c7947cf44ad13079ab844d thats how we dump it to text18:46
just_fun_thanks18:49
just_fun_It looks like switching from .gz to .xz is a big deal.19:07
pedjawiki should be in the git repo, imho, so when someone nukes some page by accident, it is easy to recover it. not that it ever happened...19:11
pedjaI am a bit behind on some xfce updates. damn you, hot weather.19:15
john_cephalopodaGenerating the wiki from markup would be cool.19:15
pedjait took me a coupe of hours to 'convert' it to mkdocs.19:24
pedjacouple*19:24
pedjamostly because I type 3 wpm19:24
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john_cephalopodapedja: I bet that it can be automated.19:57
john_cephalopodaAh, it's like readthedocs19:59
pedjawell, once converted to mkdocs, static site can be built on every git commit19:59
john_cephalopodaWill people really use git to change the docs?20:00
john_cephalopodaHmm, could actually work.20:00
john_cephalopodaBut I am not really sure if the mkdocs interface is the right way to present the articles. A wiki sounds more like what's needed.20:01
john_cephalopodaBut I'm not sure about that.20:02
pekka10man20:07
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john_cephalopodaHow do I sign a port again? -_-21:18
just_funpkgmk -us21:19
john_cephalopodaRight, it was in pkgmk. Totally forgot.21:20
john_cephalopodaOooh, crux.nu is up again :D21:22
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rmullHmm, my umatrix firefox plugin's popup menu is not wide enough to show all the columns, and has no option to scroll21:42
rmullDoes anyone else have this problem?21:42
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just_funNever needed a horizontal scroll bar21:46
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rmullLooks like my theme is to blame21:49
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