IRC Logs for #crux Monday, 2017-07-17

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john_cephalopodarsync: failed to connect to crux.nu (46.28.146.110): Connection timed out (110)10:57
dbrooke08:59 -!- frinnst changed the topic of #crux to: Server downtime today due to server move ...11:00
john_cephalopodaAh, Hexchat only showed the last part of the topic11:04
dbrookeI tend not to notice the topic but I was in channel when it was changed so saw the notification11:08
john_cephalopodaHmm, I should try to contribute things to Crux :þ11:09
newbie--how?11:12
pedjareport bugs/outdated ports on Flyspray. for extra bonus, attach a patch made with 'git format-patch' :)11:42
ryu0Maybe he could design an AI to replace sepen. That shouldn't be much of a challenge. :P11:42
john_cephalopoda11:43
john_cephalopodaI reported some stuff on Flyspray in the past, and even more often written mails to people from contrib.11:44
john_cephalopodaAlso I am running my own ports repo.11:44
john_cephalopodaBut I kinda want to work more on the core of Crux.11:44
john_cephalopodaAnd maybe docs.11:44
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pedjacore of Crux?11:46
pedjalike a developer?11:47
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john_cephalopodaYeah.11:50
pedjapick some area that you like/need, hack on it, open FS task for discussion on it.11:50
pedjabut don't get offended if the devs say 'no' :)11:52
john_cephalopoda:D11:53
pedjait has to be useful for someone other than you11:53
pedjaBumblebee integration is a good example11:54
pedjamaking Crux work OOTB on a dual graphics laptop would be pretty cool11:55
pedjaor adding prt-get/pkg support to Ansible/saltstack11:55
john_cephalopodaThe bumblebee stuff sounds interesting. Iirc I tried it once and it worked pretty much OOTB.11:57
Romsterjohn_cephalopoda, hover your mouse over the topic or  /topic12:05
pedjaRomster, next version of HexChat will use meson to build, just FYI12:14
Romsterah nuts12:15
pedja:)12:15
Romsterwhy must they friken do this12:15
pedjait's the new coolness12:16
pedjaI have a weird issue with meson. somehow it doesn't pick up my locale setting12:16
pedjaI get the big 'switch to utf-8' warning.12:17
john_cephalopodaYet another build system?12:18
pedjayup12:18
pedjaapparently, it's stinking fast12:19
Romsterwhat is wrong with cmake?12:19
pedjatoo complicated to setup, I guess12:20
john_cephalopodaSo innovative! A build system based on python! Never existed before! *cough*waf*cough*SCons*cough*12:20
Romsteryeah scons....12:20
pedjajohn_cephalopoda, but this one is using python3, so it *must* be better :)12:21
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Romsterwell damn lucky someone stuck python3 stuffs in opt isn't it then12:51
john_cephalopodaMy /opt is empty :D12:56
Romsterwell crux.nu is on a road trip12:56
pedjaRomster, speaking of python3, 3.6.2 is out. mostly bugfixes, afaict13:00
Romsterah i'll get to that sometime13:02
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pedjaI am officially confused14:53
pedjameson.py (from source) correctly reports UTF-8 as a locale14:53
pedjaonce installed to usr/bin, it thinks that the locale is ANSI_X3.4-196814:55
pedjawth14:55
john_cephalopodaComputerrrrs!15:01
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pedja'Python runtime initialized with LC_CTYPE=C (a locale with default ASCII encoding)'. hm15:26
john_cephalopodapedja: Have you set your locale properly?15:28
john_cephalopodaAnd generated15:28
pedjaof course I did, hence my confusion15:29
john_cephalopodaStrange.15:29
john_cephalopodaMaybe it reads in some config file.15:30
pedjadash sets locale to POSIX15:45
frinnstphew15:46
frinnstwell crux.nu is back home again15:46
frinnstalso took a few pictures of the old server. it's a beauty to behold15:46
frinnsthttps://planet-express.se/IMG_20170717_152759.jpg15:50
frinnsthttps://planet-express.se/IMG_20170717_152809.jpg15:50
frinnstanno 2002?15:50
newbie--pentium 4?! yeah, that's around that time.15:55
jaegerwe set it up in 200516:08
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pedja'Per Liden' :). does anyone know whatever happened to him? did he move abroad or something?16:22
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teK_he changed his name to Lennart Poettering is now is our nemesis16:41
pedjaheh16:43
john_cephalopodaD:16:45
john_cephalopodaDoes it make sense to include information on procedures for Crux <2.3 in the manual?16:53
john_cephalopodaPer Lidén's website has some commented-out things in the HTML.16:57
john_cephalopoda:D17:01
pedjahttp://www.anandtech.com/show/11636/amd-ryzen-threadripper-1920x-1950x-16-cores-4g-turbo-799-999-usd17:40
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frinnstclose, he works at oracle now :D18:47
frinnsthe still pays for crux.nu renewals18:48
just_funDoes it still use Crux?18:53
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jaegerthe new server? yes19:08
jaegerfrinnst: do you have a picture of the new one? I don't recall19:08
just_funLol. I was curious if Per Linden still uses CRUX.19:10
jaegerAh. I assumed by the use of 'it' you weren't referring to a person :)19:10
jaegerNo idea19:10
just_funSorry.19:12
just_funThe picture frinnst made it could be saved here: https://crux.nu/Main/About19:13
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frinnstyeah when it was at my work, let me find it19:51
frinnsthttps://planet-express.se/neo-crux.jpg19:58
frinnstits the top 1U19:58
frinnstnot very pretty :-)19:58
jaegerdoesn't need to be pretty, fortunately :)20:05
john_cephalopodafrinnst: I like the red parts. Stylish.20:36
john_cephalopodaIt feels kinda surreal to think that all the ports and the whole website live on that tiny 1U thingie.20:37
frinnstits huuuge20:46
john_cephalopoda:D20:46
john_cephalopodafrinnst: Yes, its inner values are what counts!20:46
frinnstnow look at a blade server, thats "small" :)20:46
frinnstwe run these at work: https://www.hpe.com/us/en/product-catalog/servers/proliant-servers/pip.hpe-proliant-bl460c-gen9-server-balde.7271227.html20:46
john_cephalopodaIs there a sandbox site in the wiki that can be used to test out stuff and make quick, temporary designs? Also, is the wiki searchable? Also, how can I get a wiki account?20:47
john_cephalopodaOh, there is a list of pages. No sandbox, it seems, and searching such a small number of pages isn't really necessary.20:58
john_cephalopodaSo only one question left: How do I get a wiki account?20:58
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john_cephalopodacrux.nu looks down.22:09
john_cephalopodahttp://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/crux.nu22:09
john_cephalopodaFrom ndc-pub.ixb.dnsnoc.net (213.132.119.2) icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable22:09
frinnstyou are kidding me22:14
frinnstI upgraded the kernel22:14
frinnstoh for fucks sake22:14
frinnstand the kvm vpn isnt up yet \o/22:16
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john_cephalopodafrinnst: Life would be so boring if things would just work™ ;)22:18
frinnstfml22:19
frinnstgoing to bed22:19
john_cephalopodaNight22:20
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