IRC Logs for #crux Monday, 2017-11-06

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nullspoonPackaging convention question. I'm building a script to create minimal chroot enironments in which to test my package builds, to ensure that my dependencies list is correct.01:38
nullspoonRunning on a few of my ports, I'm noticing that some pretty basic, but non-standard packages are missing from my 'depends on' lines. Notably, autoconf.01:38
nullspoonI grepped through /usr/ports to see if anythign else listed autoconf as a dependency, and a very small few do. Is that one that I can safely assume will be installed on any given system, and don't need to worry about having on my port dependency list?01:39
nullspoonAh, found the answer. I knew I'd seen it somewhere.  https://crux.nu/Main/PortGuidelines#ntoc201:44
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: qpdfview: don't depend on cups at buildtime, FS#152512:21
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: smartmontools: update to 6.612:21
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: poppler-qt5: update to 0.61.012:21
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: poppler-glib: update to 0.61.012:21
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: [notify] poppler: update to 0.61.012:21
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abenzhi12:25
abenzI remember crux releases usually happen towards end of year12:25
abenzall working fine here12:25
abenzjust curious if there's a release planned?12:25
frinnstthere are some blockers still. Don't expect a new release this year12:26
rmullfrinnst: Is there a TODO34 wiki page or similar anywhere?12:32
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pedjanew glib/gcc, pulseaudio and PAM enforced by default :)12:48
pedjaglibc*12:48
pedjaand for 4.0, systemd and Wayland12:51
pedjaprtverify log for 926 ports is 175K. damn12:54
pedjawithout .signature warnings, 115. still a lot of broken/semi-broken shi^Wstuff12:55
pedjaso, joacim, Threadripper in the house, or are you still waiting for the rest of the puzzle pieces?12:57
joacimthe final pieces isgetting shipped out today =)13:06
joacim"So if you exported, then imported.  That particular copy cannot be imported again"13:07
joacimfrinnst: is this true about hyperv? I can only import and exported machine once?13:08
joacim*import an exported*13:08
frinnstrmull: no, only in my head at the moment13:47
frinnstjoacim: you bought a threadripper?13:48
jueFTR, just created a empty TODO3413:55
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: stunnel: update to 5.4313:59
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: imagemagick: update to 7.0.7-1013:59
joacimyes. the 1950x14:07
frinnstawesome14:07
frinnstdamn oil-money norwegians14:08
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: qpdfview: update signature14:09
joacimit was onm sale14:09
joacimtempted to sell my 1700x tho. should rma it first14:09
joacimor i could keep it, and sell the i514:09
frinnstif you RMA it you get a brand new box14:15
frinnstso do that, it'll sell for more14:15
frinnstwhat MB are you getting? ecc?14:17
joacimx399 taichi14:21
frinnstoooh14:23
frinnstremember to provide pictures :-)14:23
joacimnot getting ecc, since i'm just tranfering the RAM from my current system14:23
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frinnstbah, cheap :-)14:30
joacimdunno what one would do for managing virtual machines14:38
joacimoutside of libvirt14:38
joacimor virtmanager rather14:39
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frinnstjoacim: dunno about that15:01
frinnsthow do you mean import? like from a converted vm?15:01
joacimsysprepped machine that i exported for later use15:02
joacimusing the built in export feature of virtual-v manager15:02
frinnstdunno, never played with that part15:02
joacimthe snapshot feature is also underwhelming15:03
joacimtho i guess virtual-v manager is very limited compared to what you can do with powershell15:03
frinnstwe used system center for everything15:04
pedjajoacim, Kimchi, perhaps? https://github.com/kimchi-project/kimchi15:16
pedjafor vm management15:17
joacim"HTML5 based management tool"15:21
joacimwell i want something for a workstation15:21
joacimlooks nice enough tho15:23
jaegerdoes the RSAT suite manage hyper-v as well?15:27
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joacimhavent done much with windows server yet. barely touched RSAT, and will be touching system center soon16:29
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abenz_kimchi looks nice!20:31
abenz_Ive been using proxmox since someone here recommended it, I think it was you wasn't it pedja ?20:31
pedjaprobably :)20:31
pedjaa friend of mine was using it at work, on a pretty beefy server20:35
pedjahe since moved on to administrating OpenStack20:35
teK__I dont know about proxmox but openstack entails quite a stack before you are set to go20:36
pedjathere are a few ways to set it up almost automagically :) official Ansible playbooks, Salt, a few vendor specific ones20:41
teK__I started porting to puppet to CRUX at some point :o20:41
pedjaI have a dusty Saltstack repo somewhere :)20:42
pedjathey bought HPE OpenStack spin, iirc20:44
pedjaa year+ later, the network still shits itself on occasion :)20:45
pedjaI have a theory it has to do something with the fact that his boss has admin access, but I am probably cynical20:50
teK__lol20:50
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: wireshark: 2.4.1 -> 2.4.2 closes FS#151822:27
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: 27.0.0.130 -> 27.0.0.183 closes FS#149322:32
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: spice-protocol renam pyparsing dependency closes FS#149622:38
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: spice-gtk: 0.33 -> 0.3423:10
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: trim dependencies of cryptsetup gegl gnupg libmpeg2 openbox slim closes FS#150723:32
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: spice, spice-gtk: trim dependencies23:37
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: filezilla glade3 gmpc libfilezilla rtorrent scribus synergy: trim dependencies closes FS#151423:53
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: libreoffice: 5.4.0 -> 5.4.223:59

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