IRC Logs for #crux Monday, 2018-02-05

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cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: chromium: 64.0.3282.119 -> 64.0.3282.14002:02
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.3]: harfbuzz-32: 1.7.4 -> 1.7.502:04
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: harfbuzz-icu: 1.7.4 -> 1.7.502:06
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: hexchat: add missing patch02:08
Romsterhttps://crux.ster.zone/packages/3.3/ new chromium is up02:09
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j_vpedja, yeah, the commentators suck. this was one of the better games i've seen in quite some time. (commentators still sucked pretty bad on this one also).04:09
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: wine: 3.0 -> 3.107:03
ryuolmo.07:05
ryuolmao.07:05
ryuolatest spam bot was from... texas...07:06
ryuomakes me think their network is part of a botnet.07:06
Romsterit hit lvm as well07:07
Romster*!*@cpe-68-203-168-151.tx.res.rr.com *!*@pool-96-255-38-171.washdc.fios.verizon.net *!*@c-107-5-30-147.hsd1.mi.comcast.net07:10
Romsterall over the place07:10
ryuoyea, those are US residental ISPs.07:11
Romsteryep07:11
Romsterthey are either willing or they have no idea theere machines are infected07:12
ryuoa good possibility. a few years back my mother's PC had a rootkit that acted as a web proxy for unknown parties.07:13
ryuoi studied it and found out more on an obscure security vendor site.07:13
ryuoit wasn't well known.07:13
ryuoi only found it because there were suspicious connections open.07:14
ryuoi ended up having to reinstall windows. nothing else worked.07:14
Romsteryeah windows it's impossible to disinfect sometimes07:18
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xeirrrHello. Any release schedule for 3.4 iso? since I see core, contrib,opt and xorg ready to roll.08:35
abenzbut 3.3 works great what do you need?08:54
abenzhaha. won't be this year according to frinnst08:54
xeirrrYes. 3.3 works indeed well. Just curious.08:59
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: qpdf: update to 7.1.109:25
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brainzmanAre you there j_v ?10:54
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joacimcan probably hire people from an old peoples home to run these kinds of spam systems13:27
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rmullteK_: contrib/syslog-ng is 404, FYI14:21
rmullLooks like new releases are available on github: https://github.com/balabit/syslog-ng/releases14:22
pedjait's quiet here. must be post Super Bowl hangover ;)14:46
pedjajudging by the news, it was quite a game14:48
Anselmodo people often watch that here ?14:50
pedjain Europe?14:51
pedjaor the channel?14:51
Anselmowell, in this channel specifically I suppose14:52
Anselmonot always sure where people are from x-x14:52
rmullI am from boston but I did not watch it14:54
pedjatbh, I am not sure. I rarely see sports talk here. well, regular sports, anyway14:54
Anselmoha14:54
joacimonly frinnst talks about sports i think14:55
AnselmoACTION has often lived in the US but never watches things of that nature14:55
joacimcorgi racing and stuff like that14:55
pedja:)14:55
Anselmohahahah14:55
Anselmosounds adorable :314:55
xeirrr_rmull: Did you try to set mirror in /etc/pkgmk.conf. I use two: the first is a nearby gentoo dist mirror:(mine is http://mirrors.163.com/gentoo/distfiles), the other is https://crux.ninja/distfiles . sometimes it downloads wrong time, but it's rare.14:56
frinnsthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPuKyeVsfZY14:56
frinnstenjoy14:56
xeirrr_s/time/file14:56
pedjathis is more r/theocho than r/sports crowd, I think :)14:59
rmullxeirrr_: Yep, that works14:59
rmullI think I'll just switch back to sysklogd though. I forgot why I was using syslog-ng.15:02
pedjaAMD is ramping up both the GPU production and MSRP for cards. miners rejoice15:05
pedjaI wonder what the MSRP for RX 555 will be15:07
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abenzI thought this crypto thing  was a phase15:50
abenzhow many new currencies are we gonna get15:50
abenzits getting silly15:50
jaegerIt's all a trick by GPU vendors!16:03
john_cephalopodaThey are all in free fall right now.16:06
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pedjahttps://whattomine.com/ <--lots to choose from16:18
pedjajaeger, AMD joined the Ethereum Foundation recently, so :)16:19
pedjaapparently, some couple posted a picture of 100 1080ti they bought for mining on some forum. so the gold rush is far from over16:21
jaeger>.>16:23
jaeger<.<16:23
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: parted: removed unused patch16:36
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john_cephalopodaJust use your GPUs to do useful stuff.16:50
john_cephalopodaLike making a movie that many people enjoy, or calculating Pi.16:50
jaegerobviously miners consider mining to be useful, heh16:54
john_cephalopodaA waste of energy.17:01
pedjagaming or mining?17:02
john_cephalopodaMining.17:03
john_cephalopodaGaming is at least entertaining.17:03
john_cephalopodaAnd you can Let's Play and entertain others, too.17:04
pedjapeople make money streaming games on twitch, or whatever. how is that different than mining? some gamers using their GPU to earn money17:05
john_cephalopodapedja: They make their money by entertaining people.17:06
pedjaso what?17:06
john_cephalopodaPeople give them money, in exchange for a service - the entertaining media stream.17:06
john_cephalopodaBitcoin mining is creating money by heating air very inefficiently, which serves nobody and accelerates global warming.17:07
john_cephalopodaThis whole cryptocurrency thing is super-annoying and doesn't really benefit anybody, except for the few dozen who had luck and sold in the right moment.17:08
john_cephalopodaAnd the ones who lost a lot of money in it are unlucky. Winners and losers balance out. So nothing is won and the pole caps are melting.17:09
ryuojohn_cephalopoda: Funny, I thought you were talking about HFT for a moment.17:32
pedja:)17:32
john_cephalopodaWhat's HFT?17:41
pedjahigh-frequency trading17:41
pedjapushing the technology to its limits to get the edge to make even more money17:43
ryuoHFT traders some advantages no human does.17:50
ryuoLow latency links to the stock exchange...17:50
ryuoThe ability to back out of a trade commitment.17:50
ryuoThey buy/sell stocks frequently all day long.17:51
ryuoUltimately they're only sucking money out of the market and contributing little, if anything, in return.17:51
ryuoFunny... i thought I was describing a banker.17:51
ryuo:>17:51
ryuolol17:52
pedjahttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/10736960/High-frequency-trading-when-milliseconds-mean-millions.html <--interesting article about HFT17:53
pedjasome companies are making billions building fiber networks for them17:55
pedjahumanity is facing an interesting challenge: satisfy ever increasing energy needs without blowing up or making Earth a shitty place to live in :)18:02
john_cephalopodaI read some post today that said something like "We shouldn't celebrate Musk so much. He proposes terraforming Mars to live there, while we should probably should start to terraform earth in order to make it habitable."18:05
ryuoOk...18:07
pedjaterraforming Mars would take centuries, and there is nothing stopping us doing that *and* cleaning up the house at the same time18:07
ryuopedja: Politics?18:08
pedjaapart form that :)18:08
pedjafrom*18:08
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pedjait is a political/cultural issue more than technological one, granted18:10
pedjawell, either we as a species will get our act together and do something, or we will go the way of the dodo.18:15
pedjaand we don't have a luxury of centuries to figure it out. a couple of decades, at most18:16
pedjaI am pretty pissed at my government for only paying the lip service to all that, regardless of from what part of the political spectrum they came from18:21
pedja'we have more pressing issues'. single threaded, eh?18:22
ryuopedja: "one track mind"18:23
pedjaand that track goes to a bank account in a country without extradition laws :)18:24
pedjathey just don't give a fuck18:25
pedjaeducation? their kids go to private/schools abroad. health service? they go to private clinic or are treated like VIP in top national ones18:27
pedjalabor market/minimal wage/worker rights? cushy jobs for them, their family, friends, and that guy they met at the spa. peasants? who cares18:31
pedjaadapt or die, indeed18:33
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: mpv: fix CVE-2018-6360; FS#157818:51
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rmullDamn, maintainer stepping down20:40
rmullseems like crux has a hard time retaining people20:41
ryuowho stepped down this time?20:41
rmullryuo: juef https://lists.crux.nu/pipermail/crux-contrib/2018-February/000637.html20:47
ryuoI see.20:49
ryuobbl20:49
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