IRC Logs for #crux Sunday, 2018-02-18

frinnst"to glide in on a shrimp sandwitch"00:57
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: Merge branch '3.3' into 3.401:24
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: tree: new maintainer01:24
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: dev86: unbreak build.01:24
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: geany: new maintainer, update to 1.3201:24
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: fluidsynth: new maintainer, update to 1.1.901:24
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: iasl: new maintainer01:24
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: fbreader: new port01:24
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: libunibreak: New port, fbreader dependency01:24
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: dev86: new maintainer. fix mandir. add bin86 fix.01:24
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abenz_3.4 ?!01:45
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: enchant: 2.2.1 -> 2.2.301:57
jaegerabenz: in development01:58
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.3]: libdrm-32: 2.4.89 -> 2.4.9002:00
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darfo<Romster> darfo-, your personal ports needs the mime types changed to text/plain on the server.03:01
darfoI can't set the mimetypes without manually changing each file through a web page03:02
ryuodarfo: what's serving them up?03:02
darfofastmail's web server. I don't know what it is.03:03
darfoI only have ftp and webdav access to write the files03:03
darfoI can't find a webdav client that allow setting the properties through a cli03:04
darfoI used to host them on my own server until my ISP decided we all need to be "protected" from inbound connections.03:04
darfotext/plain is what they should be but the server defaults to that nasty generic mime type03:05
darfooctets or somesuch03:06
ryuothey're using nginx it appears.03:06
darfotheir docs say if they recognize the file the set the mimetype appropriately03:07
darfobut it doesn't look like they try very hard03:08
darfoi guess application/octet-stream is the safest default for Windows browsers03:09
darfoI moved my ports to fastmail as it was something I was already paying for03:11
darfotoo bad they don't allow rsync03:11
darfoi manually changed the mimetypes on one of the ports but at the next upload it reset them :(03:12
darfohow did you figure out they were using nginx so fast?03:15
ryuodarfo: you really don't know about HTTP headers?03:19
ryuoServer: nginx03:20
darfoI do. I always forget the options to use to get just the headers03:20
darfoyeah, those: -Snv -O/dev/null03:21
ryuoit's just -S03:21
darfoand the -O throws away the rest03:21
ryuoMost web servers disclose their identity but they're free to say whatever they want, just like User Agents can.03:22
darfoyes, I've configured a few flavors03:23
darfoI imagine they won't go through the overhead of using the file magic to set the mimetype and just refer to the file extension03:24
darfomy robots.txt shows text/plain by default03:24
ryuoMost servers only decide mimetypes of static files by extensions.03:25
ryuoIn all other contexts, it's normally determined by the dynamic origin of it.03:25
darfoie. by the application responding to the http request. I've coded a few headers in the past.03:26
ryuoRight... ok.03:26
ryuoI maintain the web server for romster's new location.03:27
darfoApparently fastmail maintains extended properties for all the files as I can use their web app to change the mimetype file-by-file03:27
ryuoThat's asking a lot.03:27
darfoWell, if I only had one or two files I'd do it.03:27
darfothe web service just seems like their being nice. what they do really well is mail03:29
darfoi also had my own mail server until my ISP got greedy03:29
darfothat when I learned the difference between Internet Service Provider and Internet Provider03:30
darfowe still haven't got hit with non-neutrality yet but it is just a matter of time03:31
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darfoI can get inbound connections if I pay double for a business class package but don't get any better up/down speed.03:32
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ryuoit'd probably be cheaper to rent a VPS.03:33
ryuohow much data you needing to store?03:33
ryuoOn that topic, do you have your own domain already?03:34
darfoI haven't even hit a GB yet. I get 5 GB on fastmail included with my mail hosting cost03:34
darfoYes I have my own domain03:34
darfoI got tired of having my email address change years ago and got a domain03:35
ryuoSo you're able to set A/AAAA records?03:36
darfoyes, I get my DNS through easydns03:36
ryuoMe too.03:36
darfoI used to be a sys/network admin at a local university.03:37
darforetarded now. I mean retired now.03:37
ryuoFor $5/month, you can find VPS with storage of 10GB or more. If that's enough for your requirements, then it's a cheap way to get hosting you have more control over.03:37
ryuoright now i'm renting a server that I split the costs of hosting with Romster.03:38
darfoI've been thinking about it. I don't miss administering e-mail though. fastmail does a really nice job of it.03:39
ryuoDid you consider upgrading your easydns service? i use their DNS Standard and get email thrown in.03:39
ryuothey also sell web services through easyweb, but it's not a good deal for most.03:40
ryuobut you do get some control over Apache.03:40
darfoi always try to keep my e-mail, web, and DNS separated so I don't get held hostage03:41
ryuoFair enough.03:41
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ryuoBut aren't you bundling web and email right now?03:41
darfoYes, that was only due to the little surpise we got when the ISP decided to firewall off inbound connections03:42
darfoI had to move my ports somewhere cheap and quick and fastmail was already there03:42
darfoI see from my robots.txt file that was 528 days ago so maybe it's time03:43
darfoto look into a cheap VPS.03:43
ryuoI can give some referrals.03:43
ryuoNo benefit; it's just information.03:43
darfoplease do as long as they are not US-based03:44
ryuoDigitalOcean... they charge monthly a fixed rate.03:44
ryuoNo option to pay in advance.03:44
ryuoSome of their hosting locations are US based, but they offer other places too.03:45
ryuoThey're weird, their VPS aren't all that competitive, but they are KVM based so it's easy to get a custom image going if you wanted to do so.03:45
ryuoThey don't offer any VPS hosting in the US.03:46
ryuoCan't really comment on any others.03:46
ryuoI've used OVH the most.03:47
ryuotheir decisions about IPv6 are dumb but i haven't seen any other issues to speak of.03:47
darfothanks. I'll check them out.03:47
ryuodarfo: take your pick. their VPS 2016 are memory dense but not storage dense.03:48
ryuodarfo: their newer ones in Singapore and Australia are the opposite.03:48
ryuothey're probably a better bargain for static file hosting.03:48
joacimyou can also get really cheap dedicated servers from kimsufi03:49
joacimnot always in stock tho03:49
ryuootherwise you could "rent" container space from Romster or I. we have a dedicated server with KimSufi.03:49
joacimsoyoustart if you want quicker cpus, more ram, two hard drives03:49
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ryuothose start to really get expensive though.03:50
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darfomy budget is really tight so dedicated is not in my future unless I get a business idea that will pay for it :)03:50
darfothanks for the advice. gotto go feed the animals and catch some zzz03:51
ryuodarfo: if you wanted to rent a space on our server, we can create containers on demand using LXD.03:51
ryuoi can tell you more if you're interested.03:52
ryuoonly thing is, we only have one IPv4 but plenty of IPv6 addresses.03:52
joacimbeen waiting for the opteron on soyoustart myself03:52
joacima bit more than i need03:52
ryuojoacim: we ended up going with the opteron on KimSufi.03:52
ryuoReason? Not vulnerable to meltdown.03:52
darfoi can't get IPv6 through my ISP except with their overpriced business package03:53
joacimbut the flexibility with virtual machines and the ability to run heavier services is nice03:53
darfoso I am trying to outwait them when there is so much stuff on IPv6 that they have to turn it on03:53
ryuodarfo: we can still use VirtualHosting and forward an ssh login to the container...03:53
ryuoMy ISP has IPv6 finally.03:53
joacimi think mine have had that for half a decade already03:54
joacimbut you have to call in and ask them to enable it for you03:54
darfoi'm at a disadvantage because I'm rural and their is very little competition for line-of-sight wireless03:54
joacimbut, im too lazy for that03:54
ryuoOh. I live close enough to the city that we get cable internet.03:55
ryuoNo, I'm not Australian.03:55
darfowe're cut off on the north and east by rivers that flood in the spring03:55
darfoso no cable or fibre03:55
darfoand the big population centre is northeast of us03:56
darfoI'm not Australian either.03:57
joacimhmm. that opteron on kimsufi seems good enough for my use03:57
ryuojoacim: yea. we've been happy with the one we received.03:58
darfoi was going to go with IPv6 through Hurricane Electric until I found out my ISP was a money barrier.03:58
ryuoJust keep in mind, the HDD will probably be used.03:58
ryuoOurs was 2.5 years old at least.03:58
ryuoI installed it with a custom install of Ubuntu Server from the rescue netboot.03:59
ryuoIt uses ZFS. :)03:59
joacimwould be true for soyoustart too i think, but at least you can get redundancy03:59
joacimand you have tripple ssds on some servers04:00
ryuodarfo: let me know if you want to make some arrangement. we already use virtual hosting for Romster's files.04:04
ryuothe official domain name for the server is currently ryuo.xyz04:04
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darfoi'll let you know. thanks for the information04:25
Romsteri can offer space on i have yet ot finish up gitolite, but currently i got that setup at home on and then i rsync that over.04:32 ihave a few repos that are not being pushed to i think they are stagnant now.04:36
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: ffmpeg: 3.4.1 -> 3.4.207:08
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: ddrescue: 1.22 -> 1.2307:08
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.3]: sqlite3-32: fix source closes FS#159207:12
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: mpv: 0.27.0 -> 0.27.2 closes FS#158807:19
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: qiv: new maintainer. update to
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: ethtool: new maintainer. update to 4.15.09:24
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: dos2unix: new maintainer. update to
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: i2c-tools: new maintainer10:14
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: pm-utils: new maintainer10:36
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: imagemagick: fix bogus rpath in perl .so files10:44
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: imagemagick: signature update, closes FS#158610:45
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: p5-extutils-depends: new maintainer11:07
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: p5-extutils-depends: fix perms11:29
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: p5-extutils-pkgconfig: new maintainer. fix perms.11:29
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: svn2cl: new maintainer. fix mandir.11:54
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: cppcheck: new maintainer12:19
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: p5-digest-sha1: new maintainer. fix perms.13:09
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: bzr: new maintainer. update to
cruxbot[opt.git/3.4]: aspell: update to 0.60.7-rc113:59
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: feedparser: new maintainer14:39
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: jamvm: new maintainer. update to
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: sxhkd: new maintainer. update to
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: tabbed: new maintainer16:58
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: sxiv: new maintainer. update to 24.17:08
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pedjawell, that escalated quickly
joacimi like ibaras comment =)17:50
joacimpretty much what i want to do when dealing with dicks and cunts17:50
j_vwell, well, well... i'm dropping That port from my repo.17:54
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joacimseen pale moon folks be rather abrasive before. they dont seem like the reasonable sort17:57
j_vno, i already knew it, too; but that just drove it home to me how prickish they really can be. they have thier pissed of little world, i sure don't need any part of it.17:58
joacimlast time i heard about them was during the adblocking stuff from a few months ago. was an adblocker that would click randomly on ads for you, making unusable statistics for advertisers17:58
joacimnot sure if they blacklisted it, or removed it from their addon distribution center17:59
j_vnot sure... i was maintaining it mostly just to have an option if i got frustrated with firefox... but it's basically old firefox anyways, so basically a waste.18:00
j_vpedja: thanks for the link18:01
pedjanp. I saw it on BSDNow podcast. apparently, it got nuked from a couple of other BSD's too :)18:04
pedjaI know that they have to protect their trademarks, or whatever, but c'mon18:07
j_vnot surprized. those upstream guys are like fools going around with loaded pistols in their hands... people notice that kind of behavior and react appropriately.18:07
j_vi think the openbsd bunch handled it pretty well. and they shut it off quickly too.18:09
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: st: new maintainer. update to 0.7.18:32
frinnstjust received a new cisco asa advisory19:07
frinnstunless they have fucked up the email, this is the 3rd patch for the same issue19:07
joacimlooking forward to a potential road trip?19:09
frinnsthmm. looks like the patched firewalls are safe19:13
frinnstCisco Notification Alert -Security Advisories and Responses-18-Feb-2018 17:25 GMT19:15
frinnstwhy do they want to give me a heart attack on a sunday night?19:17
pedjathey say that this is a final final version of the advisory. probably.19:20
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: abcde: new maintainer. update to
pedjait's the issue with the sw version on the Azure Marketplace, afaict19:28
pedjawait, you can run Cisco fw virtualized? cool, I guess19:30
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: cd-discid: new maintainer. update to 1.419:42
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: surf: new maintainer. update config.h.20:05
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: dwm: new maintainer. update to 6.1.21:31
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: libquvi-scripts: new maintainer. fix mandir.21:40
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: libquvi: new maintainer. fix mandir.21:44
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: quvi: new maintainer. fix mandir.21:48
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: libquvi: bump release21:50
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: libquvi-scripts: bump release21:50
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: xssstate: new maintainer. fix mandir.21:58
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: wmname: new maintainer21:58
darforomster: thanks for the offer. i'm reviewing all my hosting, options, and budget.22:19
darfobudget = time and/or money22:19
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: dwm: bump release22:34
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: Merge branch '3.3' into 3.423:30
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: dwm: bump release23:30
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: xssstate: new maintainer. fix mandir.23:30
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: wmname: new maintainer23:30
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: libquvi: bump release23:30
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: libquvi-scripts: bump release23:30
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: quvi: new maintainer. fix mandir.23:30
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: libquvi: new maintainer. fix mandir.23:30
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: libquvi-scripts: new maintainer. fix mandir.23:30
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: dwm: new maintainer. update to 6.1.23:30
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: surf: new maintainer. update config.h.23:30
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: cd-discid: new maintainer. update to 1.423:30
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: abcde: new maintainer. update to
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: st: new maintainer. update to 0.7.23:30
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: sxiv: new maintainer. update to 24.23:30
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: tabbed: new maintainer23:30
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: sxhkd: new maintainer. update to
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: jamvm: new maintainer. update to
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: feedparser: new maintainer23:30
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: bzr: new maintainer. update to
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: p5-digest-sha1: new maintainer. fix perms.23:30
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: cppcheck: new maintainer23:30
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: svn2cl: new maintainer. fix mandir.23:31
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: p5-extutils-depends: fix perms23:31
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: p5-extutils-pkgconfig: new maintainer. fix perms.23:31
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: p5-extutils-depends: new maintainer23:31
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: pm-utils: new maintainer23:31
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: i2c-tools: new maintainer23:31
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: dos2unix: new maintainer. update to
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: ethtool: new maintainer. update to 4.15.23:31
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: qiv: new maintainer. update to
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: mpv: 0.27.0 -> 0.27.2 closes FS#158823:31
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: ffmpeg: 3.4.1 -> 3.4.223:31
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: ddrescue: 1.22 -> 1.2323:31
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: enchant: 2.2.1 -> 2.2.323:31
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