IRC Logs for #crux Wednesday, 2018-04-18

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ryuohttp://assets.amuniversal.com/85a150406d6301301d80001dd8b71c4701:42
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brian|lfshey all still laughing my ass off this game I watched a video on youtube about is funny shit04:29
brian|lfshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lKMsS24sKs04:29
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: python3: bpo-32521: glibc has removed Sun RPC. Use replacement libtirpc headers, added dependency libtirpc as it is included on the iso build07:20
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: [notify] jdk: update to 1.8.0_17208:18
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: [notify] jre: update to 1.8.0_17208:18
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focalHello everybody. Can anyone tell me where is the package repository used by PKGADD ?09:51
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frinnstyou run pkgadd on a package. the default is to place the package in the port directory09:52
focalI mean, how to get a list of available pakages for CRUX Linux ?09:52
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frinnstso you would have /usr/ports/core/dhcpcd/dhcpcd#7.0.3-1.pkg.tar.gz09:52
frinnstyou have a http interface here https://crux.nu/portdb/ if that's what youre looking for09:53
focalthanks, frinnst.09:54
frinnstin crux you can run "prt-get list"09:54
focalfrinnst, are all those packages MUSL libc based ?09:55
frinnstno, we use the gnu toolchain09:55
frinnstgcc, glibc09:55
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frinnstbut crux is very open and simple, really. so if there is a will you can easily (well) modify it to use musl09:57
frinnstbut please dont file any bugs if you do :)09:57
frinnstthe first step would be to bootstrap everything for musl. You can find that process here: https://crux.nu/gitweb/?p=system/iso.git;a=summary09:58
focalfrinnst, if you needed to use a full MUSL compatiable distro, which one would you peek ? I mean, a ready available one, not a distribution manually adapteded to MUSL.10:00
frinnstI dont know to be honest10:00
frinnstalpine seems to use it10:01
focalthanks.10:01
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pedjathere is an interesting FOSDEM talk on alpine and their switch to musl.10:34
focalThis one, pedja ? https://fosdem.org/2018/schedule/event/java_world_containers/10:37
pedjafrom last year https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc1rBayMnVI10:38
pedjaof the experimental ones, snowflake has an interesting concept. musl core and pkgsrc for packages10:42
pedjapkgsrc had, last I checked, about 10+ thousand packages (Illumos is using it, too, iirc)10:43
pedjait works fine on Crux, too :)10:44
pedjabut I prefer Anaconda/Miniconda for 'software I am too lazy to package' these days10:46
pedjaand AppImage10:46
focalthank you pedja. What is "Anaconda" and "Miniconda" ? Other Linux distro ?10:48
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: poppler-qt5: update to 0.64.010:51
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: poppler-glib: update to 0.64.010:51
cruxbot[opt.git/3.3]: [notify] poppler: update to 0.64.010:51
pedjafocal, it's a collection of (mostly) data science packages which are installed/managed separate from the system.10:53
pedjahttps://www.anaconda.com/distribution/10:54
pedjathink python virtualenvs on steroids10:54
pedjadistribution agnostic, which is cool10:56
focalpedja, from your YouTube link I found this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=beV6s7pPHNQ11:06
focal"Alpine Docker image is ~4.5MB", what is a "Docker" ?11:07
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frinnstwget -O /dev/null http://speedtest.tele2.net/1000GB.zip fun fun16:04
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frinnsthttp://www.speedtest.net/result/7238381014 nice16:08
pedjaand here I am switching the stream to 480p so it wouldn't stall so much :)16:11
john_cephalopodaAnd here I am watching youtube in 4k on a full HD screen :D16:14
cruxbot[xorg.git/3.3]: mesa3d: update to 17.3.916:14
pedjanah, yt is rarely problematic, if ever. it's the other streaming sites16:15
pedjaforcing yt to play h.264 by default helped a bit :)16:17
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jaegerwatching 4k on an FHD display seems like a waste of bandwidth16:23
joacimi think the lights and such is generally a quarter of the video resolution16:26
joacimnot totally sure how it works16:26
joacimso 4k video can be of benefit to 1080p displays16:26
jaegerMaybe... I'm no video expert16:27
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pedjawhen you play 4k on FHD, you are watching 4k downsampled to 1080p16:37
pedja1080p monitors, by definition, can't show more than that16:37
pedjait's not downsampling, it's 'chroma subsampling' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIf9h2Gkm_U16:41
jaegeryou're definitely losing some content any way it's sampled or sliced16:44
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pedja4k converted to 1080 is higher quality that native 1080, which makes sense.16:54
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pedjaso, in theory, 4k on FHD display? yes, it's better. but things worth watching in 4k are few and far between, but that's whole another conversation16:57
pedjaisn't Japan switching their TV to 4k in a few years?16:59
pedjajohn_cephalopoda, what's the CPU/GPU usage while you watch 4k?17:03
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deep42thoughtHi, I tried to update my system today, but keep getting "Bad system call" for core/file on [Makefile:764: magic.mgc]18:25
deep42thoughtWhat might I be missing here?18:26
jaegerI saw that as well, building as root fixed it18:27
deep42thoughtindeed18:27
deep42thoughtthanks!18:27
deep42thoughtsome fakeroot/sudo issue, then?18:28
jaegerseems like, not sure18:28
frinnsthuh, I built it as fakeroot yesterday evening without issue18:35
frinnstor are 3.3 and 3.4 out of sync for file?18:35
deep42thoughtI'm on 3.3 with file-5.33-118:35
frinnstindeed it was. still built fine with fakeroot for me tho18:37
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deep42thoughteven, running "man" inside the fakeroot gives me "Bad system call" O.o18:54
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joacimrip whois20:15
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