IRC Logs for #crux Friday, 2018-05-18

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Romsterdeep42thought you will find /etc/ports/contrib and compat-32 didn't get updated to 3.4, you have to edit them manually.05:29
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: p5-extutils-depens: update signature for perl 5.2614:31
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: p5-extutils-pkgconfig: fix footprint for perl 5.2614:35
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: p5-glib: fix footprint for perl 5.2614:37
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: p5-digest-sha1: fix footprint for perl 5.2614:42
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cruxbot[xorg.git/3.4]: mesa3d: update to 18.0.415:03
cruxbot[core.git/3.4]: vim: update to 8.1.000115:04
cruxbot[opt.git/3.4]: gvim: update to 8.1.000115:04
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: p5-cairo: fix footprint for perl 5.2615:20
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: p5-pango: fix footprint for perl 5.2615:28
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: p5-gtk2: fix footprint for perl 5.2615:59
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: ethtool: add missing footprint17:32
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: feedparser: add missing footprint and md5sum17:37
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: i2c-tools: add missing md5sum17:41
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: iasl: add missing footprint17:43
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: jamvm: add missing footprint17:46
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: p5-cairo: add missing md5sum17:55
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: p5-digest-sha1: add missing md5sum17:56
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: p5-extutils-depends: add missing md5sum17:58
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: p5-extutils-pkgconfig: add missing md5sum17:59
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: p5-gtk2: add missing md5sum18:00
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: pm-utils: add missing md5sum18:36
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: qiv: add missing footprint18:41
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: subversion-perl: fix footprint for perl 5.2619:17
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: subversion-python: add missing footprint19:25
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: svn2cl: add missing script19:32
pedjawhat? no updates for us poor souls still running 3.3? cccc :)19:42
Anselmoblah I should update x-x19:44
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pedjaI even d/l the iso, just don't have the time to do it19:53
pedjaone of these days[tm]19:54
Anselmohehe19:56
joacimdid it on my laptop20:05
joacimcant be bothered yet on my server20:05
ryuojoacim's server emails him: "Help! I've been hijacked by ransomware! They want a bitcoin for my safe return!"20:07
ryuolol20:07
joacimthat could've happened =)20:11
joacimthe ipmi was exposed for the longest time with the default password20:11
joacimi thought it was only exposed on the dedicated nic20:11
joacimdidnt know the default also had one of the two intel nics as a fallback20:11
ryuothat's common.20:12
joacimalso if i upgrade to 3.4 right away, might hurt 3.3s feelings20:18
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: pm-utils: add missing README20:33
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: bzr: add missing README20:54
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: dev86: add missing nostrip file20:55
pedjaI never figured out why passing '-ns' works and having .nostrip doesn't for some ports21:08
j_vpedja: is the .nostrip empty... it's supposed to have the files listed, one per line, that shouldn't be stripped21:12
j_v?21:12
ryuopedja: maybe some ports are shy.21:12
ryuo:P21:12
pedjaj_v, so I've been doing it wrong, then :)21:17
pedjaI thought that having it is global, as in 'don't strip anything'21:18
pedjasetting default '-ns' for port, if you will21:21
pedjaif '-ns' means 'do not strip binaries or libraries', it is safe to assume that '.nostrip' does the same, imho21:25
j_vpedja, what you say makes sense to me. I was only describing what I've found to work. But I also think that being able to selectively choose which files will remain unstripped is not a bad thing either.21:27
pedjawell, empty .nostrip meaning 'all', and files listed in it meaning 'strip only these' would achieve both things :)21:29
j_vnot bad... I like it.21:29
j_vwell, except that a file called .nostrip that lists files to strip seems counterintuitive to me.21:30
pedjasorry, I meant 'do not strip these'21:30
j_vah, cool... was how I interpretted first time I read it.21:31
j_vmore proof that I hear what I want to hear.21:34
pedja:)21:34
j_vmy selective hearing has also gotten almost too well tuned... I can hear someone talking, appear to be listening, and not catch a darn thing said. Could be attention span problems, too, but I've learned to force myself to Pay Attention (mostly tm).21:36
j_vSorry, I think I messed up that old saying "Discression is the better part of valour" by changing the discression to digression.21:38
joacimannoying when im trying to listen to someone21:38
joacimand every time they speak, or during key words, someone drives past in a loud car21:39
joacimor decides to bang around with big plates and loud plastic wrappers21:39
j_vjoacim, yep, know just what you are describing.21:39
joacimand in such a loud environment, it is useless to ask them to repeat themselves too21:39
j_vI get that alot. And I work in a lot of loud environments (industrial, contruction...)21:41
pedjathe art of saying 'aha' and 'you don't say' at appropriate moments, without actually paying attention21:43
pedjaneedless to say, I suck at small talk21:45
joacimyeah but at some point, they ask "are you finished with the project i asked you to do yet?"21:45
joacimbest i can do is stall until they forget21:46
joacimor reasign21:46
joacimreassign21:46
j_vpedja, that art can be get me in trouble. Specifically if I need to act on what's been explained.22:15
j_vI work in some mission critical environments, and there they often use what's called three-way communication: speaker says it, listener repeats it, speaker verifies the response.22:16
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.3]: qiv: fix manpage location22:24
j_vThere, now 3.3 has gotten some love.22:25
pedjaj_v, that art is most useful for 'social' events. of course, the work environment is completely different :)22:25
j_vpedja, you are so right. And I think a part of me suspected you were referring to that before. Unfortunately, my head is still wrapped up in my last temp job.22:27
pedja'mission critical' sounds challenging. I hope you get more than decent pay for the work :)22:31
j_vYeah, for that stuff, I get pretty good pay. Unfortunately for my cash flow, that work won't start up again until autumn. And work locally is not panning out yet, so I will be hitting the road again next week looking for work.23:10
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