| jaeger | pedja: I can install it on a system if you still need that info. something wrong with your device modes or something? | 00:05 |
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| brian|lfs | https://paste.pound-python.org/show/ayIXmRlGYFrUerTOiqm7/ | 03:58 |
| brian|lfs | any ideas I'm confsued | 03:59 |
| Workster | permissions on destination directory | 04:23 |
| Workster | Error copying directory from "/home/pkgmk/work/curaengine/src/CuraEngine-3.4.1/resources" to "/home/pkgmk/work/curaengine/src/CuraEngine-3.4.1/build". | 04:23 |
| brian|lfs | ah you think its permission | 04:24 |
| brian|lfs | thats what I was thinking but I'll try again with non privileged user again | 04:24 |
| brian|lfs | I get the same error with route | 04:25 |
| brian|lfs | weird | 04:25 |
| brian|lfs | I'm trying manually now | 04:28 |
| brian|lfs | as root | 04:28 |
| brian|lfs | seeing with prt and pkgmk didn't work with root | 04:28 |
| brian|lfs | very strange | 04:30 |
| brian|lfs | problem isn't the crux tools | 04:30 |
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| brian|lfs | never got it to work of course the cura appimage works | 05:02 |
| brian|lfs | but thats cheating | 05:02 |
| brian|lfs | Clearly the problem isn't what the error states its not a permission issue it don't even work as root or compiling manually | 05:03 |
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| frinnst | did the build actually finish OK? your log suggests its only warnings but I wonder | 07:13 |
| frinnst | also would be helpful to see the Pkgfile | 07:14 |
| Workster | ls -l /home/pkgmk/work/curaengine/src/CuraEngine-3.4.1/build | 07:21 |
| Workster | umask | 07:23 |
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| pedja | jaeger, would you? that would be awesome :) 'grep nvidia /proc/devices' too, if you would | 11:30 |
| pedja | I blame nvidia-modprobe :) | 11:30 |
| pedja | but weirdly I seem to be the only one hitting that bug/weird behaviour | 11:30 |
| pedja | I don't remember anyone else getting Vmware/lvmpipe as OpenGL vendor instead of Nvidia | 11:33 |
| pedja | logging off, chgrp video dev/nvidia*, and starting X again seem to fix the 'can't load glx' error | 11:35 |
| pedja | nvidia-modprobe resets device nodes to root:root 0666, and evertything works again | 11:39 |
| pedja | so I was thinking of not using nvidia-modprobe at all, but write udev rule to set it up, like for uvm | 11:41 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/3.4]: hpcups: fix signature | 11:49 |
| pedja | Oracle Messaging Server my ISP is using seems to have gone belly up. no e-mail for me | 11:51 |
| pedja | they have quite a few Solaris boxes, iirc | 11:53 |
| pedja | mostly for critical systems. DNS, mail | 11:54 |
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| SiFuh | http://www.blackview.hk/blackview-304/ | 12:34 |
| frinnst | 128gb ROM? | 12:50 |
| SiFuh | Dual 3g/4g sim ;-) | 12:53 |
| SiFuh | I currently use the Blackview BV7000 Pro. | 12:54 |
| frinnst | my nokia 6.1 has dual sim too. pretty nifty. or you can use one sim and an sd card | 13:01 |
| SiFuh | yeah seems to be common place now that you either have dual sim or a single sim + tf card | 13:02 |
| Anselmo | I had a phone with 2 simslots and an sd card | 13:02 |
| SiFuh | Australian telco's closed down 2G or less networks. We only have 3G, 4G and currently testing 5G in some tiny areas. | 13:03 |
| SiFuh | So phones that were dual sim ended up being single sim phones since they could not support dual 3G or 3G + 4G | 13:03 |
| SiFuh | In fact most dual sim phones are stil "2G + 3G/4G" | 13:04 |
| SiFuh | Anselmo: yeah, have a few here too. | 13:04 |
| Anselmo | mm | 13:05 |
| Anselmo | but now am back to a single sim 2g thing c-c | 13:05 |
| SiFuh | I changed to blackview because they supported "3G + 3G" and "3G + 4G" | 13:05 |
| SiFuh | Anselmo: I'm only dual sim because of work. End of you going back to single sim and change jobs | 13:06 |
| Anselmo | I found it convenient for moving between countries | 13:07 |
| Anselmo | but I suppose less a worry in australia | 13:07 |
| SiFuh | Oh no, when I travel the phone is fine, can support everything. Just Australia because stupid and erased older networks | 13:09 |
| SiFuh | /because/became | 13:09 |
| Anselmo | do you not use different sim's for other places ? | 13:09 |
| pedja | heh. Nokia 6 is around 400 € with 2year contract | 13:09 |
| SiFuh | People often boast about 4G here, but they don't realize that 4G is only for data. Calls automatically switch to 3G | 13:10 |
| Anselmo | ha | 13:10 |
| SiFuh | Anselmo: when I go to South East Asia, I just get a new sim card | 13:10 |
| Anselmo | yeh | 13:10 |
| SiFuh | I don't care what network they are, as long as it works. | 13:11 |
| SiFuh | and 2G is still a standard in many countries | 13:11 |
| Anselmo | I suppose I've never used a phone for more than calls and sms, for which 2g is almost assuredly fine as far as I understand | 13:11 |
| SiFuh | Anselmo: yes. I pretty much use my phone for SMS/Whatsapp and sometimes calls. | 13:13 |
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| SiFuh | Anselmo: for my work, I must contact people all the time. I don't want them getting my number. If I set my number to private many will not answer the call. So I needed to have a sim that I can call for customers, and a sim for my own private use. Since Australia destroyed the 2G network.. I ended up having to need two phones. | 13:14 |
| Anselmo | uh | 13:15 |
| Anselmo | *ugh | 13:15 |
| Anselmo | but yeah | 13:15 |
| SiFuh | My car has only 1 bluetooth connection at a time. But I need both sims to go through the same bluetooth. Only way was a phone that could support using 3G/4G on both sim slots. | 13:15 |
| SiFuh | Hence the Blackview BV7000 Pro became my best friend ;-) It did everything I needed for work. | 13:16 |
| SiFuh | Soon as work finishes, I automatically disable SIM 2 ;-) Tada no dicks calling me anymore | 13:17 |
| Anselmo | :3 | 13:17 |
| SiFuh | Even the boss doesn't bother calling me, because he just gets answering machines ;-) My colleagues go home and the boss is constantly calling them. | 13:18 |
| Anselmo | bleh | 13:18 |
| Anselmo | what is your work ? | 13:19 |
| SiFuh | Taxi Driver in a remote area | 13:19 |
| Anselmo | interesting | 13:19 |
| SiFuh | It's different | 13:19 |
| SiFuh | But it is a non contract job, so when I am finished what I am doing in Australia I can go back overseas again | 13:20 |
| Anselmo | are you from australia ? | 13:20 |
| SiFuh | I was born here but spent most of my life adult life in Asia | 13:21 |
| Anselmo | huh | 13:22 |
| SiFuh | I was born in Australia. When I was 21 I moved to South East Asia. I have been back in Australia 2 years, and I am going back to Asia end of this year. | 13:23 |
| Anselmo | mmm | 13:23 |
| SiFuh | I am 40 - 21 when I moved to Asia = 19 - 2 years in Australia = 17 that I had lived in Asia | 13:24 |
| SiFuh | I lived in Asia 17 years | 13:24 |
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| Anselmo | so much of your life, not just adult life :P | 13:25 |
| SiFuh | Well, I don't think my adult life started yet | 13:25 |
| Anselmo | ahaha | 13:26 |
| frinnst | can confirm. 37 here and still a child | 13:46 |
| jaeger | pedja: http://ix.io/1k4X | 13:47 |
| SiFuh | https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PREMIUM-IPHONE-CHARGER-ONLY-8-IN-AUSTRALIA-FIRST-IN-BEST-DRESSED/162986154881 | 13:48 |
| SiFuh | Quite expensive | 13:48 |
| frinnst | someone will probably buy it | 13:48 |
| Anselmo | I surely would, were I in australia | 13:51 |
| SiFuh | Haha fsck Australia | 14:03 |
| pedja | thanks, jaeger :) | 14:03 |
| jaeger | np | 14:03 |
| pedja | no nvidia-uvm in proc/devices? ah, no CUDA, I guess | 14:05 |
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| pedja | idk if I should just recreate what nvidia-modprobe does in udev rule, or add 'chgrp video' too | 14:10 |
| pedja | Fedora does the...former? the first one? (I keep getting confused by that :) ) | 14:11 |
| SiFuh | pedja: yeah me too think of former as first F = F and the later as the last L = L | 14:13 |
| pedja | upstream docs list 'nvidia-modprobe' as a last resort, or something to that effect | 14:13 |
| pedja | SiFuh, ah. that's a nice way to memorize it. thanks | 14:14 |
| pedja | it's been a couple of days since switch to glvnd, and no screams, afaict. nice | 14:17 |
| jaeger | I haven't had to do anything specific with udev, just works (tm) | 14:23 |
| pedja | well, it just works for me, too. most of the time :) | 14:36 |
| pedja | it's annoyingly random | 14:36 |
| jaeger | Ah, doesn't happen every time? | 14:38 |
| pedja | afaict, it happens more frequently when I boot into new kernel, for some reason | 14:39 |
| jaeger | weird | 14:39 |
| pedja | that's why I want to see if I can make it more reliable using explicit udev rules, and without nvidia-modprobe | 14:40 |
| jaeger | ok | 14:40 |
| pedja | there should be a new sl nvidia release soon-ish, so I'll try with that | 14:42 |
| pedja | 398.x, iirc. | 14:43 |
| pedja | damn,this thing is huge http://www.gamerstorm.com/product/CASES/2017-11/1288_7269.shtml | 14:45 |
| jaeger | yeah, bit crazy. seen some build videos with it | 14:46 |
| pedja | Wendell's Threadripper workstation :) | 14:46 |
| pedja | 8 hdd and 5 ssd bays | 14:47 |
| pedja | you can pack some serious storage in it | 14:47 |
| joacim | i want a case as compact as possible | 14:48 |
| pedja | and it's alive! | 14:48 |
| pedja | opening flaps to release the heat automagically | 14:48 |
| pedja | joacim, I don't think they are targeting you with this case. or me, for that matter | 14:51 |
| Anselmo | the computers I have running have mostly open cases :P | 14:53 |
| Anselmo | no need for flaps to block airflow when they'reclosed :P | 14:53 |
| joacim | nobody targets me :( | 14:59 |
| joacim | there are some nice mini itx cases out there, but i want a case for a plain atx system | 14:59 |
| joacim | room for E-ATX would be nice. might as well since one would have to support 315mm graphics cards anyways | 15:00 |
| jaeger | how about the define r6 without a window? | 15:00 |
| joacim | was thinking define c =) | 15:00 |
| jaeger | also a decent option | 15:00 |
| joacim | i like how it is as tall as it is deep | 15:01 |
| joacim | dotn like how many cases has 2.5" mounts behind the motherboard tray. annoying to run power cables for those | 15:03 |
| jaeger | I don't find them hard at all in the fractal cases | 15:05 |
| joacim | i want traditional stuff for drives | 15:05 |
| joacim | with drive cages, not trays that makes me force and bend cables so they can fit | 15:06 |
| jaeger | plenty of other options, you don't have to use the stuff behind the motherboard | 15:06 |
| joacim | and dont like how they put stress on the connector and solder joints | 15:06 |
| jaeger | and I think both the r6 and c come with cages | 15:06 |
| joacim | yes | 15:06 |
| joacim | i want a case made by smart people like me. not one thath as options for people not as smart like me ;) | 15:06 |
| jaeger | They won't stress if you run them well | 15:07 |
| jaeger | at least in the fractal cases | 15:07 |
| jaeger | I've had several now :) define mini, define r5, define s, define r6 | 15:07 |
| joacim | i think the best place for a 2.5" drive in my phanteks is in front of the bottom shroud. bit fiddly to route the cables there, but i dont have to force anything to fit stuff there | 15:08 |
| joacim | just wish they had a window-less option | 15:08 |
| joacim | case is a bit big for what it is too tho | 15:09 |
| jaeger | yeah, I used that mount option in the evolv, liked it | 15:09 |
| joacim | i also like the way the evolv deals with radiator mounts. doesn't look so temporary as some other cases | 15:17 |
| frinnst | but it's called "gamerstorm" | 15:20 |
| frinnst | that disqualifies it right from the start | 15:20 |
| ryuo | Anyone want to predict that tourism to LV is going to decline after shit like this? | 15:48 |
| ryuo | https://it.slashdot.org/story/18/08/13/1314216/hackers-who-attended-black-hat-and-defcon-conferences-say-hotel-security-personnel-and-las-vegas-strip-demanded-access-to-their-rooms#comments | 15:48 |
| jaeger | the evolv's radiator mount was great but the airflow at the top of the case sucked for top-mounted rads, sadly | 15:58 |
| jaeger | That's actually the main reason I switched to the R6 | 15:58 |
| jaeger | I still have the evolv, though, might use it for a future air-cooled build | 15:58 |
| joacim | that they could fix, the idea is great | 15:58 |
| jaeger | yeah, agreed | 15:58 |
| jaeger | I think they did fix it in the new version but I don't recall for sure | 15:58 |
| jaeger | Also, you can work around it. I used some tape and pieces of thin plastic to cover the holes that weren't lined up with the rad | 15:59 |
| jaeger | That did help quite a lot | 15:59 |
| joacim | i think the nzxt h700 looks neat. looks more open | 15:59 |
| joacim | they too is one of those companies that only have window options, not window-less | 16:00 |
| jaeger | yeah, I like some of theirs | 16:10 |
| jaeger | and they have some good mini-itx ones | 16:10 |
| jaeger | as long as you don't mind windows | 16:10 |
| jaeger | I wonder how well TR2 will do VFIO setups | 16:13 |
| joacim | i assume it will work well, since most issues got fixed with the 1900x series | 16:14 |
| joacim | afaik | 16:14 |
| joacim | not tested it myself yet | 16:14 |
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| nwe | what are you guys using iphone or android? | 16:26 |
| joacim | android for now | 16:26 |
| nwe | before iphone or? | 16:26 |
| joacim | symbian s60 | 16:26 |
| nwe | why I wondering i I have used iphone the last 10 years, and for the moment I using the phone from work (iphone 7) but consider to get an private number too, and have bankid, the bank-app etc and use it for private calls.. and for the unlimited data traffic. | 16:28 |
| nwe | I looking on oneplus6 / vs iphone 8 / iphone X | 16:28 |
| jaeger | I have an android phone for work, iphone for personal. I don't have strong feelings either way. They both work fine and do the jobs I want | 16:29 |
| nwe | the Iphone X cost 1314 USD and oneplus 700 usd, and the last one has better specs... | 16:32 |
| jaeger | My iphone is a 7, plenty for me :) | 16:32 |
| nwe | for me too, but the glas on my is broken, and if I got an new one from the company now the adding so the can take controll of the phone, I dont what that because I have bankid /swish (bankid = digital ID) | 16:35 |
| nwe | one good thing with oneplus is that it has dual sim-slots | 16:35 |
| jaeger | maybe you could get the glass fixed | 16:37 |
| joacim | i wouldnt bother too much with specs on phones. most important thing is that they work well | 16:38 |
| jaeger | especially if you're like me and use a very limited subset of its features | 16:39 |
| joacim | an iphone requires itunes to sync and stuff if you want to use a cable | 16:39 |
| joacim | pretty much the only thing i can think about in favour of android | 16:40 |
| nwe | yeah that´s not a problem about tha glass. that´s true I using spotify,bankid,swish,bank-application,linkedin, and some more apps and both exist on both iphone and android | 16:40 |
| joacim | android requires that you get stuff from the play store to sync with plain caldav and cardav servers | 16:40 |
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| nwe | I dont use caldav etc, does some of you if you can block callers with android as you can with iphone these days?, before you couldnt if I rember right. | 16:43 |
| joacim | i think it depends on the phone application | 16:43 |
| joacim | just checked with the default android application (nexus 5). you can block people | 16:45 |
| joacim | just blocked a couple of telemarketers | 16:45 |
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| rmull | I use an app called "Should I Answer?" on android for screening calls, works for my needs | 17:36 |
| joacim | call screening doesnt work too well for me i think | 17:41 |
| joacim | since telemarketers just call again in an hour | 17:41 |
| joacim | until i answer and say no thank you | 17:42 |
| joacim | pls dont call me again | 17:42 |
| jaeger | I screen all calls that aren't in contacts | 17:42 |
| jaeger | If they keep calling and never leave a message, I block the number | 17:42 |
| joacim | so you would block me then :( | 17:42 |
| joacim | i hate voice mail | 17:42 |
| jaeger | sure | 17:42 |
| jaeger | voice mail has a purpose, as annoying as it can be | 17:42 |
| joacim | i dont even listen to mine. i just call back and ask what it was | 17:43 |
| jaeger | My voice mail greeting explicitly says "if you would like me to call you back, please leave a message" | 17:43 |
| joacim | i usually send an sms if it is important and i couldnt get through tho | 17:47 |
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| brian|lfs | no Workster the build never finshed but I can post my Pkgfine | 19:23 |
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| brian|lfs | https://paste.pound-python.org/show/qihiVO0vbKY4INfJJnjI/ | 19:25 |
| brian|lfs | forgot to change the source url back to the new version https://paste.pound-python.org/show/tjJ8fhSFTFoTUX7VREht/ | 19:27 |
| brian|lfs | seems the tags are messed up on the git | 19:39 |
| brian|lfs | git clone works | 19:39 |
| pedja | brian|lfs, try passing '-j1' to make install | 19:53 |
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| brian|lfs | I tried that already only doing git clone worked | 19:54 |
| brian|lfs | python-scipy is giving me a headache now | 19:55 |
| pedja | you mean there is an issue with upstream tarball? | 19:55 |
| brian|lfs | it would appear that way | 19:55 |
| brian|lfs | at least on that repo | 19:56 |
| brian|lfs | NotFoundError('no lapack/blas resources found' | 19:56 |
| brian|lfs | any idea what I need for that | 19:57 |
| brian|lfs | google seems useless showing me windows stguff | 19:57 |
| brian|lfs | stuff | 19:57 |
| pedja | openblas or atlas | 19:58 |
| brian|lfs | ah ok | 19:58 |
| brian|lfs | we don't have either | 19:59 |
| pedja | I have a openblas port, if you are interested | 19:59 |
| brian|lfs | ya save me soem error | 20:00 |
| brian|lfs | effort | 20:00 |
| brian|lfs | whats your repo info | 20:00 |
| brian|lfs | does anyone have discord on their repo mine just shjows a blank screen on launching | 20:39 |
| joacim | i use yours | 21:27 |
| joacim | works on my system | 21:27 |
| jaeger | I've been using the appimage as nothing else would work for me. Sure it's just something missing, maybe joacim knows what :P | 21:29 |
| joacim | idk. sounds like a lot of responsibility | 21:30 |
| joacim | it has been nothing but issues for me on fedora | 21:30 |
| joacim | graphics glitches and this banner that always shows warning me about something having gone wrong | 21:30 |
| joacim | i have marakus libc++ ports | 21:34 |
| joacim | libc++ and libc++abi | 21:34 |
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