IRC Logs for #crux Friday, 2018-11-16

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cruxbot[opt.git/3.4]: firefox-bin: updated to 63.0.314:13
cruxbot[opt.git/3.4]: firefox-pa: updated to 63.0.314:13
cruxbot[opt.git/3.4]: firefox: updated to 63.0.314:13
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jaegerhrmm... for a person who doesn't program full-time, void pointers can really start to make your code look arcane15:17
jaegerall the type casting and dereferencing15:22
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joacimjohn_cephalopoda: do you know much about your fluidsynth port? I'm trying to make a 1.1.11 port that can install alongside your 2.0.1 port15:50
joacimthe .so file itself is easy enough to deal with, but the binary, headers, and pkg-config file makes me wonder15:51
joacimsince I'm not used to fiddling with headers and pkg-config stuff15:51
joacimwhat I have for now15:58
cruxbot[xorg.git/3.4]: mesa3d: update to 18.2.516:21
cruxbot[opt.git/3.4]: [notify] keyutils: update to 1.6, removed dependency on krb516:22
cruxbot[opt.git/3.4]: flash-player-plugin: update to
cruxbot[core.git/3.4]: sudo: update to 1.8.2616:23
john_cephalopodajoacim: I don't really know much about the fluidsynth port unfortunately. I took it over because I wanted to use it but haven't done anything with it yet.16:27
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joacimjohn_cephalopoda: ah ok. gzdoom can use fluidsynth for music (and has it as its default backend), but does not work with 2.017:22
john_cephalopodajoacim: Having a "conflicts" line in pkgbuilds would be very handy now...17:30
joacimgzdoom does work just just the proper .so, and doesnt need fluidsynth to build17:39
joacimidk. could just push it and wait for bug reports =)17:40
joacimthen again, i dont think many people report bugs to user repositories17:40
joacimi think i had one for weechat once. was just a version bump17:40
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pedjaxfreerdp man page is horribly broken18:34
pedjawell, that was fun. here I am, debugging rdp to win10 box, and, apparently, home version doesn't even support server-side rdp...19:30
joacimi always pay a bit extra and get professional =)19:32
pedjathere is a hack of sorts, but 1.might break on any update 2. causes some random issues, and the win10 box isn't mine, so...19:32
pedjajoacim, this came preinstalled on the laptop19:32
joacimhavent ever paid for windows tho. unless you count the computer it got bundled with in 199519:32
joacimbeen wondering about those 20 dollar licenses on ebay, if theyre legit or not19:33
joacimi think the officeo nes on there is a bit icky, since you cannot register the key with your account19:34
joacimit is pro plus or something19:34
jaegerAs far as I know they're legit, though some might be gray-market vendors19:35
jaegerAnd I believe you can still buy a windows 7 pro license for cheap and use it to activate a windows 10 installation19:35
joacimi hear the windows 10 upgrade ended earlier this year19:36
joacimi did mine before newyears19:36
jaegerThis isn't the upgrade. I mean you use the windows 7 key after you install windows 10. No windows 7 installation is used19:36
joacimoh. never tried that19:37
jaegerI have done a few installs that way, worked fine. :)19:38
jaegerThere are a few folks out there who have a bunch of win 7 licenses their employers bought and never used, or similar situations19:38
jaegerThere's a guy on the something awful forums who's been selling them for years for $2519:38
joacimi have a couple myself19:40
joacimnever used19:40
pedjalicence is valid for any, say pro version, no matter the language it is in?19:40
joacimyeah the language difference is just a different iso. the key is the same19:41
pedjaah, ok19:41
pedjafedora 29 or leap on a netbook, that is the question19:48
jaegerpedja: yeah, along those lines I reinstalled my xiaomi laptop's windows with the english version using the existing license19:56
pedjajaeger, still having issues with that laptop? what was it, touchpad trouble?19:59
jaegerI got that sorted. Was a lot of digging in kernel options20:00
pedjanice :)20:00
jaegersome stuff I'd never used/heard of20:01
pedjait's always confusing when some sub-menus in kernel config don't show anything, because they need some obscure option enabled first20:02
pedjaand no help/docs for it20:02
pedjaone of these days I'll start kernel config from scratch, see how far I get20:03
jaegerfor science!20:04
pedjafor lolz I loaded Arch .config recently. I kind of get the kitchen-sink approach, but damn20:05
pedjahaving filesystems as modules was confusing, and I remembered that they use initrd20:05
jaegerI used their config once or twice when I was trying to track this touchpad thing down, AND when playing with optimus/glvnd20:07
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: hiredis: 0.13.3 -> 0.14.020:09
pedjajaeger, what do you think it's the best approach for ports that need some special kernel config? ship with the .config that can be imported into existing one looks like a neat solution20:11
pedjaand/or the script that will check the existing one, like docker has20:12
jaegerI kinda like docker's approach, though I've not spent much time thinking about it20:13
joacima readme with the required options maybe20:15
pedjathat works too20:16
jaegeryeah. If there aren't many of them that works well20:16
jaegereven if there are, I guess20:16
jaegercan always script it :)20:16
pedjaconsequences of Crux not having an 'official' kernel :)20:17
pedjawell, past the release, anyway20:17
pedjaand I like that approach20:18
pedjahad to skip several minor releases when the NIC driver was broken.20:19
pedjaif I had to upgrade before they fixed it, that wouldn't be fun :)20:20
pedja'int' is integer, 'uint' is unsigned integer. wth is charp? character what?20:23
pedjafew of the amdgpu module options are...those things :)20:26
pedjaI've built it just because. now all I need is an actual AMD gpu20:27
jaegerstrings, then20:27
pedjajaeger, you were right. character pointer20:31
pedjahard to google/ddg for, charp. all I got was 'did you mean c sharp?' :)20:33
jaegerAh, yeah20:33
joacimusually when there is something i cant find with ddg, i just figure it wasnt worth looking for anyways =)20:34
jaeger"If we don't have it, you don't want it."20:34
pedjajoacim, have you tried ddgr port from contrib?20:35
pedjaddg from the console20:35
pedjaand yes, I am plugging the port that I maintain :)20:35
joacimdidnt know it was there =)20:36
joacimgoogle is horrible about results too sometimes. i think they got too smart20:36
joacimmaking the results worse20:36
pedjathere is a similar one for google, but I rarely use google, so didn't bother20:37
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joacimjaeger: sometimes i walk into stores, and they start recommending stuff they don't have, but other stores do. makes me wonder how they stay in business20:42
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jaegerThat is a bit of an odd practice, but maybe they're hoping you'll remember they were helpful and come back :)21:30
joacimyeah they do run stores i wouldnt mind returning to =)21:34
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: postgresql: 10.5 -> 11.122:24
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pedjaapparently, some Intel CPU will get even slower with 4.20 :)
pedjanot sure about AMD23:20
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joacimpedja: might be a more chill release23:40

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