IRC Logs for #crux Saturday, 2019-01-05

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cruxbot[opt.git/3.4]: qt5: 5.12.0 <-- 5.11.3 downgraded due to clang dependency on qdoc can not be disabled in qt504:04
cruxbot[opt.git/3.4]: qtwebengine: 5.12.0 <-- 5.11.3 downgraded due to clang dependency on qdoc can not be disabled in qt504:04
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tsaophi all10:09
tsaopRomster: for disabling qdoc in qt5 5.12.0, you can try the following hack https://pastebin.com/e8KZgLUu10:09
tsaopit does compile10:09
tsaopdon't know if it affects other packages. qdoc should be optional according to their bugtracker10:10
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T-ShirtsHey12:11
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.4]: xterm: update to 34213:29
cruxbot[opt.git/3.4]: fuse: update to 2.9.913:29
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cruxbot[core.git/3.4]: ed: update to 1.1513:48
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pedjaamd cpu codenames decoder ring :) http://www.moepc.net/content/uploadfile/201811/8d7b1542898939.png16:51
Anselmooh, neato16:52
pedjabunch of more useful charts here http://www.moepc.net/?post=515717:08
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ryuoGood grief. It's like the supporters of mainstream distributions think systemd is perfect and beyond reproach.22:25
ryuoHow is it a good thing to break what was working just fine?22:26
ryuoTo not even provide a complete replacement of the functionality of what you're trying to replace.22:27
ryuo(resolved)22:27
ryuoresolved breaks conventional DNS server behavior of sequential lookups.22:27
ryuoSo it breaks private DNS lookups since not all servers are equal.22:27
ryuothe resolved usage of DNS servers isn't very configurable.22:28
ryuowhat a crock of shit.22:28
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abenzryuo: I think many are here because they were forced out of their fav distros by the widespread of systemd which their distro adopted23:33
abenzsigh. pardon the poor structuring23:34
abenzACTION fixes some drinks23:34
joacimI'm just here because I felt like changing23:34
joacimlong before systemd23:34
abenzits just another choice, the problem is the ocotopus style dependency, where many essential functionalities are dependent on systemd23:35
abenzso nowadays its still feasible, but I fear what the future will look like23:35
joacimi dont mind systemd too much on fedora. but i dont think it needs to be everywhere23:35
abenzjoacim: ryzen 3000 is on the horizon, I reckon the high end ryzens of 3k series will be on par with 1st gen threadrippers23:37
abenzminus the power consumption of course23:37
abenzthey wont have the huge bandwidth afforded by the many pcie lanes and octa-channel memory though23:37
abenzstill, quite amazing how far we've come performance-wise in the last 2 years, compared to the last 823:38
abenzhttps://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-3000-zen-2-cpus-ryzen-9-3900x-ryzen-7-ryzen-5-listed-online/23:39
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joacimi think the most interesting part of threadripper is the lanes tho23:43
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joacimnot sure if 12 threads is needed on such a platform, but i don't mind that they have that many threads. I'd probably go for 6-8 cores23:45
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pedjasince when are retailers listing cpu's 4-6 months ahead of their general availability?23:59

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