IRC Logs for #crux Saturday, 2019-02-16

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cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.4]: elfutils-32: 0.175 -> 0.17602:32
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.4]: wine: 4.0 -> 4.204:35
Romsterhttps://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/ChangeLog-4.14.101 shortist change log i have seen in a long time04:39
Abdullahhas someone success using urlview in crux or its me who can't use it ?04:54
jaegernever used it, myself04:58
AbdullahI have been using it with almost all other distros but its not working here04:58
Abdullahmaybe I lost my dotfiles this time04:58
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Romsterwhat's the point of urlview when regex exists and xml206:19
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AbdullahRomster: how can I use them for mutt and irc? Like I can check links and point my browser at them with urlview. if they are mp3 file they would open with mpv. if they are yout.be links, they would go to mpv.07:34
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shynoobHello there .. I'm new here07:54
Abdullahshynoob: a warm welcome in #crux07:54
shynoobI'm not an experienced Linux user.. yet can I install Crux?07:54
shynoobI wanna learn more about computers07:55
shynoobAbdullah, thanks07:55
Abdullahwell, crux is for experienced linux users. still you can install it using the wiki at crux.nu. if you have problems, just ask here07:55
shynoobOh ok07:56
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shynoobNo other prerequisite? , Abdullah07:57
shynoobAlso have ppl played games like DotA 2 on steam on Crux?07:58
AbdullahI think no, and I'm not interested in games but I have seen some posts on games where some people had terminal games in crux08:00
shynoobOh lol08:03
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AbdullahHow can I get path to my camera ? I don't have /dev/video09:32
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pedjadigital camera or webcam?10:48
pedjagrep'ing dmesg should work for either10:48
cruxbot[opt.git/3.4]: python3-pip: 18.1 -> 19.0.211:58
cruxbot[opt.git/3.4]: python-pip: 18.1 -> 19.0.211:58
cruxbot[opt.git/3.4]: python3-setuptools: 40.7.0 -> 40.8.011:58
cruxbot[opt.git/3.4]: python-setuptools: 40.7.0 -> 40.8.011:58
cruxbot[opt.git/3.4]: meson: 0.49.1 -> 0.49.211:58
cruxbot[opt.git/3.4]: libva-vdpau-driver: patches update11:58
cruxbot[opt.git/3.4]: libva: 1.7.3 -> 2.4.011:58
RomsterAbdullah, sounds like you want xdg-utils11:59
Romsterwe got steam for linux, chatty, minecraft and multimc and wine which can run some games with steam and origin and stuff for windows.11:59
AbdullahI think I had it.11:59
Romstershynoob had already left too.12:00
Abdullahnone can live with us so easily ;-)12:00
Abdullahpedja: its laptop camera12:01
Romsterwell i can play red alert 2 in wine with origin12:01
Romsterlspci -k might list what kernel module your cam needs12:02
AbdullahI have compiled every option which had webcam but still no /dev/video12:02
Romsteras for the software side i haven't done anything with cam in linux.12:02
Romsterjust make sure you add yourself to the video group12:02
Abdullahhttps://ptpb.pw/gB3S here lspci12:03
AbdullahI'm in video as without it I can't watch videos12:03
Romsteryou sure it's not disabled in bios/uefi?12:04
Abdullahyeah12:05
Abdullahnot disabled12:05
Romsterhmm did you install the firmware package?12:05
Romstermight need that12:05
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Romstercameras are usually usb interface12:06
Abdullahsysup did that I think12:06
Romsterlsusb12:06
Abdullahhttps://ptpb.pw/vvfa12:07
Abdullahlsusb12:07
Romstercan you get more info none of them usb id's seem to show a cam12:10
Romsterlsusb -v12:10
Abdullahhttps://ptpb.pw/0Xna12:11
Romsteroh the lite-on i passed that thinking that was a dvd drive12:12
AbdullahI think its camera. I have no dvd12:12
Romsterit is top entry of that last paste12:12
Romsterpaste*12:12
Abdullahso how can I get its path?12:13
Romsteruvc modules in kernel enabled?12:14
Abdullah# CONFIG_USB_CONFIGFS_F_UVC is not set12:15
Romsteryep go into make menuconfig and enable that12:15
Romsterthen make modules_install and modprobe that12:16
Abdullahif I do uncomment this line and add 'y' in end, won't it sufficient?12:16
Romsterah i missed a step12:16
Romsterthen make modules_install and /sbin/depmod -a (to reload modules list); modprobe that12:17
Romsternot advisable12:17
Romstersome options turn on other options12:17
RomsterDepends on: USB_SUPPORT [=y] && USB_GADGET [=n] && USB_CONFIGFS [=n] && VIDEO_V4L2 [=n] && VIDEO_DEV [=n]                                                        │12:17
Romster  │   Selects: VIDEOBUF2_VMALLOC [=n] && USB_F_UVC [=n]12:17
Romsterunless you go though the .config and turn those all on. again i would not advise that method.12:18
Romsterand if you do use 'y' and not a 'm' for module you'll need to reboot to load the new kernel.12:19
Abdullahall those options you mentioned were already 'y' except ucv12:20
Romsterok so set it to m12:21
Romsteror y to build it in.12:21
AbdullahI had a strange problem today. I had noauto in fstab for ESP. so I had to remount manualy if I compiled new kernel. I compiled it today and tried to remount the ESP for copyin it over but it gave me errors12:23
Abdullahagain I compiled vfat drivers and modprobe them, still I had errors. reformated ESP, booted from iso and cp'ed the kernel. again same issues12:24
Romsteri'm not up to date on UEFI booting i got all older hardware with BIOS still.12:24
Romsterstill using lilo on everything12:24
AbdullahI can mount it from iso but can't mount it with installation12:24
Romsteras root?12:24
AbdullahI use manfacturer efi. not using custom boot managers12:24
Abdullahah maybe I used sudo12:25
RomsterEFI is fat32 as far as i know so you will need fat32 support in your kernel12:25
Abdullahah this time it isn't producing an error but command isn't run yet.12:26
Abdullahlemme check FAT32 in config12:26
Romsterit could be that sudo does not show all the env variables passed to root.12:26
Romsteralso another useful thing is installing exfat-utils and possibly ntfs-3g for exfat and ntfs mounting if you ever need to12:27
AbdullahI don't have ntfs or windows partitions nor a windows computer I have12:28
Romsterthen no need for those12:28
Abdullahmount command is still not executed ;-(12:28
Romsteri do data recovery among other tings12:28
Romsternoauto wont mount it automaticly. until you do mount <mount point>12:29
Romsterlike mount /boot/efi if it's in that path on fstab12:29
AbdullahI'm gonna sig kill it then create fs on ESP. as I can hear my fan voice now ;-(12:29
Abdullahyeah noauto won't mount it automatically12:30
Romstersomeone else here would be able to help you more on RFI12:30
RomsterEFI*12:30
Abdullahzgrep FAT32 /proc/config.gz returns nothing12:32
RomsterFAT_FS12:33
Romsterbtw you can search in make menuconfig with the / key12:33
Romstersame as you do in vim12:33
Romstereven firefox will do ctrl-f when you press /12:34
Abdullahall those options are y12:34
Romsterso you have fat file system support then.12:34
AbdullahI do vimium in chrome for that. ;-)12:34
Abdullahso I can create fat fs12:35
Abdullahcreated it. still command isn't executed successfully. its there with no exit code12:35
Romsterecho $?12:36
Romsterif it returns 0 then it worked12:36
Abdullahit was hung there so I did sig kill12:37
Romsterah strange12:37
Abdullahlet me come from crux iso.12:37
Romstercheck dmesg and /var/log/messages12:37
Romsteri am behind on so many linux ports :/12:38
Abdullahdid tail -f on /var/log/messages and ran mount but no messages appeared yet12:39
Abdullahfan started voice again ;-)12:39
Abdullahlemme boot the crux iso and cp the new kernel.12:40
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: ffmpeg: 4.1 -> 4.1.112:40
Romsterok12:40
Abdullahstrange as I can boot from new kernel if I cp it on ESP but can't mount it.12:40
Romsterno idea there.12:41
Abdullahlemme come back12:42
Romsteri do have 1 laptop that is UEFI now and i installed windows 10 on it and plan to chainload the windows EFI by adding another entry to point at a 100MB partition after windows partition for crux then boot 500MB for kernel and then root/home12:43
Romsteri need food12:46
AbdullahRomster: its error, cp437 codepage not found12:57
Abdullahfor ESP12:57
cruxbot[opt.git/3.4]: cups-filters: update to 1.22.113:15
Romstermissing locale?13:28
Romsterhttps://www.reddit.com/r/commandline/comments/37fxvh/display_code_page_437_in_a_consoleterminal_window/13:31
Romsterprobably the terminal you are using does not support it13:31
Romsterhttp://qodem.sourceforge.net/ omg that is one old memory13:32
RomsterQodem is a public domain re-implementation of the DOS-era Qmodem serial communications package, updated for modern systems. Qodem goes beyond similar DOS-era emulators in many ways:13:32
AbdullahRomster: nah, its codepage for FS13:37
Romsterh13:37
Romsterah13:37
Abdullahsee NLS_CODEPAGE in config13:37
Romsterright forgot about that13:37
AbdullahI forgot the command you gave earlier to load all modules13:38
Romsteri've not had to configure fat on a kernel in ages i keep using my same .config13:38
Romstersudo /sbin/depmod -a13:38
Romsterthat just reloads the System.map13:38
AbdullahRomster: is it possible to compile all drivers as m what we need?13:38
Romsterthen you can modprobe13:38
Romsterwell fat stuff you can but rot FS must be compiled in, else you need a initramfs13:39
Romsteronly time you mount EFI is to update/change it.13:39
Romsterthen again kernel might need to be able to see it on boot, i am not sure.13:40
Abdullahis it true that with modules we get faster boot?13:41
Abdullahand performance?13:41
Romsteronly if you don't build everything under the sun13:41
Romsterbut you'd only see microseconds to load a few modules13:42
Abdullahhmm13:42
Romsterbuilt in is fine if it's something you'll use all the time and don't expect to use the same kernel on other machines.13:42
AbdullahI have compiled this codepage but still ESP is taking ages to mount13:43
Abdullahagain I'm gonna reboot into crux iso13:43
Abdullahsee you13:44
Abdullahcharset iso-8859-1 not found this time ;-)13:49
AbdullahRomster: solved ;-)14:20
Abdullahnow we will resolve camera issue.14:20
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crux_userhello, I'm having trouble building graphviz, I'm using this Pkgfile; https://pastebin.com/ptysg1tJ18:59
crux_userI get this error /usr/bin/grep: /usr/lib/libjpeg.la: No such file or directory19:00
frinnstI think you need to rebuild libtiff19:21
frinnstthat or some other port that depends on libjpeg-turbo19:22
crux_userthank you frinnst I will try now19:23
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jaegeryeah, it's most likely libtiff19:51
jaegerseen a lot of that recently19:51
crux_user:'( I rebuilded libtiff and libjpeg-turbo, then tried again and failed with same error :*(20:58
crux_useranother port I'm having problem is xlock, I changed the version so I could download the sources; https://pastebin.com/d4G0BbGW21:01
jaegercheck all the .la files in /usr/lib for "libjpeg.la" and if you find any references, rebuild the packages that own those files21:07
crux_userno package owns such file, don't exist, is a libtool created file, for what I had research.21:07
crux_userif I download such file it continues to give the error, but different, saying the file is invalid :P21:08
jaegersome other file is referencing libjpeg.la (which shouldn't exist)21:08
jaegerso you need to rebuild whatever that other package is so it knows the file is gone21:08
crux_userhumm21:08
jaegergot to go for a while, if you don't get it sorted out maybe someone else can have a look21:09
crux_usergraphviz gives this error after CCLD libgvplugin_gd.la21:10
crux_userthank you jaeger , see you ;)21:10
crux_userFixed, libgd was missing :)21:22
crux_usernow graphviz give php related errors, I rebuilded php ...21:45
john_cephalopodaIs there some tool that takes a list of dependencies and outputs a minimal list, i.e. "libarchive gtk cairo" becomes "gtk" because gtk requires libarchive and cairo, so installing gtk will satisfy all dependencies.22:26
john_cephalopodas/i.e./e.g./g22:26
TimB_findredundantdeps22:30
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john_cephalopodaNeat, thanks.23:09
john_cephalopodaJust added qtractor to my repo.23:41
john_cephalopodahttps://thecutecuttlefish.org/ports.html23:49

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