IRC Logs for #crux Monday, 2019-03-11

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frinnst"oops" if you omit -spice addr=127.0.0.1 it listes on 0.0.0.009:52
pedjadafuq10:02
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pedjawhatever happened to sane defaults in software10:19
ryuopedja: "convenience"10:20
pedjaryuo, reminds me of the default 'just make it open wide to the Internets, what could go wrong' redis(?) configuration :)10:24
pedjaor was it mongodb? can't remember, but there are a lot of them out there, according to...what's the name of that service scanner thingie?10:30
frinnsti was looking for the ip address of a rpi here in the office, so did a nmap on the entire /24. found lots of fun stuff :-)10:33
pedjafrinnst, what's the name of that online scanner for fun stuff? webcams, printers, etc?10:35
frinnstshodan?10:35
pedjayes, that's the one :)10:35
pedjamy brain is...not working well today10:36
frinnstits very useful. A customer changed ERP a few years ago so the consultants asked us to open up a bunch of stuff for them. Fine10:36
frinnstthen did a shodan search on that subnet. found an tomcat server that has never been patched. Asked the erp consultants if they could patch it. "It's not part of the serivce agreement and will cost XXXXX€"10:37
pedjaof course10:37
pedjawait, was tomcat server installed as part of the ERP migration?10:38
frinnstyes10:38
pedjaffs10:38
frinnstor rather, its part of the ERP it seems. Dunno. we have 0 documentation on it10:39
pedjaeven worse if it's part of the ERP. how's that *not* a part of the service agreement?10:41
frinnst¯\_(ツ)_/¯10:42
pedjaheh. ssl cert for spam webgui thing of my ISP expired 10 days ago, so FF is freaking out10:45
pedjaand they are one of the biggest ISP's in the country...10:45
frinnstnew'ish service?11:07
frinnstmonitoring is easily forgotten11:07
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ryuoif anyone's interested, i noticed that KimSufi's $4.99 server in france is currently in stock.11:50
frinnstipv6 /128? whyyyyyyyyyyy11:56
frinnst"we better save those ipv6 addresses - they are so rare"11:57
ryuofrinnst: lmao. yea... you actually get a /64 or maybe it's /56, but they claim otherwise.11:58
frinnsti'd love to know what hardware they run. as in chassis or whatnot11:58
ryuofrinnst: well, me and Romster are renting a KS-5 right now.11:59
frinnstthey must be packed tight11:59
ryuono idea on that front. i can only tell you what their hardware reports.12:00
ryuoheh12:00
ryuoit's some super micro board.12:00
frinnstoh, does it specify model? gimmie! :D12:00
ryuo[    0.000000] DMI: Supermicro H8SCM/H8SCM, BIOS 3.5        11/25/201312:00
ryuofor the KS-5 we have.12:00
ryuoi've been considering getting the KS-1 for less serious purposes; experimentation.12:01
ryuouptime has been pretty good that i can tell.12:01
pedjafrinnst, it depends.is ~8+ years in production 'new-ish' :)?12:01
frinnst:-)12:01
frinnstthe recommended chassies looks like ordinary 1u12:02
ryuoit probably is.12:02
pedjait's some cisco appliance12:03
Romsteri am more surprised they even assign IPv4 anymore.12:04
pedjaKimSufi? that's OVH?12:04
ryuoYes, the discount line of OVH.12:04
pedjanice12:05
ryuoIt has crappy customer support, but it's doable if you know what you're doing.12:05
pedjahardly :)12:05
ryuopedja: What's hardly?12:05
pedjasorry, there is a weird disconnect between my brain and what I actually type today12:06
ryuoOk..12:07
Romstercoffee++12:07
ryuoError: overflow12:07
ryuocoffee overflow12:07
ryuoHmmm12:07
ryuoThat'd hurt.12:07
Romsterdepends on the object12:08
Romsternow i am not sure what i wanna touch now in crux12:09
pedjaso, KimSufi is 'here is a box, here are root credentials, have fun'?12:09
ryuobasically, pedja.12:09
ryuothe only control you have is what limited stuff their web interface can do.12:09
ryuoit's enough but you get no serial console so to speak.12:09
ryuonor VNC. that's for their premium services like SYS.12:10
pedjaso, no out-of-band access if/when you fsck up?12:10
pedjawell, not you/Romster, obviously :)12:11
ryuopedja: you can reboot to rescue mode. that's it.12:11
ryuoit's how i installed ubuntu like we have it.12:11
ryuousing rescue mode, which is a custom Debian environment.12:11
ryuoit works, more or less.12:11
ryuothe KS ones boot from the network.12:12
ryuothe VPS ones do something else.12:12
pedjahttps://k3s.io/ Kubernetes on, amongst other things, ARM12:24
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pedjainteresting. radeon vii has pretty much the same price here as, say, .de13:01
pedja~800€13:01
ryuopedja: if you have questions about KimSufi, let me know... i've had their service for over a year.13:01
cruxbot[opt.git/3.4]: [notify] protobuf: 3.4.1 -> 3.7.0 ABI change, check with revdep13:02
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: protobuf-c: 1.3.0 -> 1.3.113:04
pedjaryuo, thanks, I'll remember that :)13:16
pedjatr2 2950x and radeon vii = "poor man's video editing", apparently :)13:25
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frinnsti'm really keen on burning some cash on hardware. but not sure what to get. server? networking gear? cpu update?15:43
frinnstthreadripper would be nice15:44
frinnst AMD Ryzen ThreadRipper 2990WX15:45
frinnst32 cores? wtf15:45
jaegerI really like my 2950x... the 2990wx just seems crazy15:46
frinnsthaha yeah15:47
frinnstbut I have no need for it - you're the one that rolls the iso's :D15:47
jaegerfair enough :)15:47
john_cephalopodafrinnst: RasPi cluster!16:09
pedjafrinnst, 3d printer, perhaps :) ?16:25
frinnstjohn_cephalopoda: too late :-)16:28
frinnsta 3d printer would be cool but I dont have any projects for it at the moment16:29
pedjarobot, drone, rover. buch of open source hw projects out there :)16:30
pedjabunch*16:30
pedjamaker scene is pretty strong in Scandinavia, afaik16:31
pedjaI guess with long and cold winter nights, they need something to kill the time :)16:32
joacimfrinnst: how about a 1920x?16:35
joacim*2920x16:35
joacimi want a couple of 2U cases for a fileserver + backups16:36
joacim+ another for various virtual machines16:36
joacimgame servers and irc16:36
joacimhttps://silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=843&area=en16:36
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frinnstlooks nice but very loud17:09
cruxbot[xorg.git/3.4]: xorg-libxdamage: update to 1.1.517:18
cruxbot[xorg.git/3.4]: xorg-libxcursor: update to 1.2.017:18
cruxbot[xorg.git/3.4]: xorg-libxcomposite: update to 0.4.517:18
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joacimyeah. hoping i can swap the fans with some slower 80x25mm fans,17:45
joacimbut i assume it only works with 15mm thick ones17:45
joacimi tend to prefer low voltage parts for file servers too17:46
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cruxbot[core.git/3.4]: coreutils: update to 8.3117:53
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john_cephalopodaOof, I think I'm gonna add sdl2_image to contrib.21:17
john_cephalopodaOh, wait, looks like it is already there.21:17
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pedjaanyone heard of 'f5 networks', he company that bought nginx?22:02
jaegersure22:02
pedjathe*22:02
jaegerThat's my employer :)22:02
pedjaoh, nice :)22:03
frinnsthehe so i do remember correctly22:06
frinnstnow dont fuck it up!22:06
frinnstalso nvidia bought mellanox :(22:06
pedjais nvidia spreading to networking, not enough money in gpus?22:10
jaegeryeah, I'm curious to see what's going to happen with nginx and BigIPs both22:10
frinnsthttps://www.reddit.com/r/networking/comments/azvef6/nvidia_to_acquire_mellanox/22:11
jaegerGPU compute for SDN22:11
pedjajaeger, so you make big network appliance thingies?22:11
jaegerI work for F5 Silverline which is a smaller group within F5, but yeah, they've made load balancer/security/waf/etc. devices for 20ish years22:12
jaegerhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F5_Networks#BIG-IP22:12
jaegeroh, neat, silverline even gets a small mention on the wikipedia page22:13
pedjagpu nodes fast interconnect? that makes sense22:16
jaegerThat's just a guess, I have no idea what they're really doing22:16
pedjacuda accelerated routers :)22:16
jaegerIt's a possibility, I imagine... we've already got FPGA routers and firewalls or similar22:16
pedjamost of the money nvidia makes is in ml/ai/compute, afaik22:21
pedjainteresting. so f5 tmos is an OS on top of Linux, with the secret sauce running on asic or whatever22:26
pedjathat's what some comments on HN thread suggest, anyway. nda and all that jazz :)22:26
joacimpress f5 until it works? =)22:27
pedjathen press esc, and if that doesn't work, start pounding on f122:34
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.4]: pavucontrol: Update to 4.022:42
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