IRC Logs for #crux Friday, 2019-04-19

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RomsterApple won't like this... - Run MacOS on ANY PC02:52
Romsteris everyone asleep?03:24
AnselmoACTION yawns03:58
Romstermorning Anselmo04:02
Anselmoslowly dling that video. . .but, interesting04:02
Romsteri'm not an apple fan but this is interesting04:03
AnselmoI suppose, you still cant run any os on a mac04:03
Romsterparallels can run windows on a mac.04:03
Romsteror you can natively04:03
AnselmoI thought recent weird things they were doing were trying to make that nigh impossible04:04
Anselmomaybe I misremember its something I dont much follow04:04
Romsteri haven't been keeping up either on that front.04:06
Anselmoyeah. blaah. used to use macs sometimes when I was in school. now they're all even more alien x-x04:08
Romsteri can't handle how they do the settings.04:08
jaegerheh, that "any PC" bit is VERY misleading04:08
Romstermail settings.. not in the app but in the settings app for mail..04:09
Romsterit is a bit yes jaeger04:09
jaegerMore than just a bit, in my opinion... because it requires a computer that has VT-x AND VT-d (or SVM) but ALSO supports passthrough properly, which is a MUCH smaller subset04:11
Romsterdo mobo manufactures have a logo to make it easy to pick a board that supports this? rip nope04:12
jaegerNot that I've ever seen... but usually the manual will say if it has VT-x and VT-d or SVM04:16
jaegerThey won't, however, detail the IOMMU layout04:16
jaegerwhich is make or break04:16
Romstervga pass through is less predictable without testing right?04:17
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jaegerFor all that effort, I'd just recommend buying a used tower mac pro from ebay, heh04:25
jaegerIn fact I use a 2012 mac pro that I bought surplus from a local place for $20004:25
jaegerI've added an RX 580 to it and upgraded its CPUs04:25
jaeger(for my work computer, I mean)04:25
Romsterdarn origin used to work in wine now it's crashing.05:41
Romsternice jaeger05:41
Romsterwonder if i should try jaeger's patched wine...05:41
Romsterwell fudge i got it working after doing the legacy version then switching winecfg for that prefix from xp back to win 705:45
Romsteror not it just now crashed ugh05:45
Romsterit did load up though05:46
joacimjaeger: from what ive seen. high end intel systems tend to be easier to deal with in such applications07:35
joacimtho it does work on my threadripper now (cant really comment on stability)07:35
joacimi almost always ran a patched wine back when i used it for games07:45
joacimit would work fine for a while, but with game updates and even wine updates, i'd need specific patches to make things work07:45
john_cephalopodaWhat was the contrib git URL again?09:03
john_cephalopodaAh, nevermind, git://
frinnstgitweb shows the git urls for all repos (for future reference)10:29
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john_cephalopodaSiFuh: 5:54 - *Facepalm*12:19
SiFuhjohn_cephalopoda: I face palmed through the entire video12:23
john_cephalopodaSiFuh: Even the comic character at 5:54 facepalms.12:28
SiFuhHaha the gree Matrix dude12:35
SiFuhHey there is a picture of me on the back wall  same scene12:36
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john_cephalopodaPeople with black hoodies and sunglasses will destroy the USA! They need YOUR help!12:48
SiFuhblack cowboy hat12:49
john_cephalopodaIn reality it's probably a bunch of Chinese guys sitting in an office, writing spyware and devising new attacks.12:49
SiFuhInteresting though, since both China and Kyrgyzstan people always accused me of being a spy.12:49
john_cephalopodaLike the ARMA developers who went to Greece and took pictures of military stuff, getting subsequently arrested as spies :D12:52
SiFuhMy mindset about spies is the cold war. When I first went to China and they accused me of being a spy, I thought to myself, what children. Those days are over, we have journalists now12:53
SiFuhChinese people, not the CHinese government.12:56
SiFuhJust to be clear ;-)12:57
john_cephalopodaMy father is a geologist and a Chinese guide led them into an area which was apparently a military zone. They were put under house arrest for a few days, the guide was taken away and probably shaken through properly by the military. The guide was ok afterward though.13:01
john_cephalopodaThe guide has been researching in that area for a long time and apparently didn't know that it was a special area.13:01
SiFuhLots of land is Military governed in China. The Great White Tibetan Pyramid (the largest pyramid in the world) is on military land.13:02
john_cephalopodaThe authorities stole a really good geologist hammer from them though :þ13:02
SiFuhIt is in Xi'An province... miles from Tibet13:02
john_cephalopodaHm, sucks that politics are complicated there.13:48
SiFuhyes and no, easy if you follow the rules ;-)13:52
SiFuh34°22'52"N 109°15'12"E13:52
SiFuhbrb playing with this Qubes OS thing13:53
john_cephalopodaSiFuh: Is it a Linux distro? It is a bit unclear.16:11
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