IRC Logs for #crux Sunday, 2019-07-14

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stenurCiao, and a nice sunday everybody!01:09
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: pekwm: fix man page location, fix compile09:56
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: intel-ucode: Update to 2019061809:56
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: python3-cython: 0.29.9 -> 0.29.1109:56
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: python-cython: 0.29.9 -> 0.29.1109:56
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: mpv: remove vulkan from optional: as shaderc pulls in vulkan09:56
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: shaderc: 2018.0 -> 2019.009:56
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: x265: 2.5 -> 3.009:56
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: ffmpegfs: initial import09:56
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: wine-staging: updated to version 4.1109:56
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: nginx: updated to version 1.17.109:56
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: discount: initial import09:56
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pedjathis is kind of amazing
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onoderawhat is the correct way of starting dbus, I see some people doing it in xinit, and there is the rc.d file11:38
joacimi just run the rc.d file11:41
john_cephalopodaSame here.11:52
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Romsterdbus-launch --auto-syntax --exit-with-session fvwm-themes-start12:47
Romsterdbus-launch --auto-syntax --exit-with-session startxfce412:47
Romstersome DE's take care of the client part for you12:47
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pedjaI have 'exec startxfce4 --with-ck-launch' in .xinitrc14:14
pedjaand start dbus from SERVICES in rc.conf14:15
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cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: harfbuzz-icu: 2.5.1 -> 2.5.314:31
cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: qtwebengine: 5.12.2 -> 5.12.414:31
cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: qt5: 5.12.2 -> 5.12.414:31
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vanpaulhello crux'ers, I'm on a crux computer with hardware problems, is a Satellite S50-C if I'm not wrong,15:16
vanpaulit freezes when I'm using X, without X it just works fine.15:16
joacimdo you see anything fun in /var/log ?15:17
vanpaulit says have problems with Battery, is without it at this moment, without X is fine15:17
vanpauljoacim: justs cd /var/log, not sure where to start or how, maybe grep error ?15:18
joacimread through the logs that are there15:19
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joacimi'd look in messages and xorg logs first.15:20
joacimdid you try connecting to your computer with ssh while the system is hung?15:21
vanpauljoacim: looking at xorg, yes I see some strange things,15:22
vanpaulYes, some times it freezes only X system other times all system blocks,15:22
vanpauland even at boot time, sometimes I have to disconnect USB or don't pass BIOS15:23
vanpaulI will try to paste the xorg log, will try to see better,15:24
joacimnot passing bios stuff sounds more serious15:25
vanpauljoacim: is possible to turn off hardware by software ? something on /proc or /sys ?15:26
vanpauland start testing, for example, disable one GPU, then USB and try to see what is blocking.15:26
joacimhave to do that through bios i think15:26
joacimmy old laptops has the options to disable either of the two gpus15:27
vanpaulbios is very castrated, not that much options15:27
joacimcan ofc simply not load the module for a specific piece of hardware15:27
joacimand blacklist it15:27
vanpaulback to keyboard, sorry joacim15:35
vanpauljoacim: I only enable nvidia support on kernel, should I install other stuff ?15:39
vanpaulthere is a nvidia port, I saw that somewhere ,,, just because I see X saying have a nv module that can't be loaded15:39
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vanpaul:) kernel log is "clean", don't see  there any indication of error, so it must be only X15:44
john_cephalopodavanpaul: Are you using the open-source ("nouveau") Nvidia driver or the proprietary one?15:45
vanpauljohn_cephalopoda: I only enable on kernel, I'm using kernel from not linux-gnu15:48
john_cephalopodavanpaul: Where in the kernel configuration did you enable the driver?15:48
john_cephalopoda"Device Drivers" > "Graphics Support" > "Nouveau (NVIDIA) cards (NEW)"?15:49
vanpauljohn_cephalopoda: yep, think so, using this port URL:
john_cephalopoda4.9 is really old.15:50
vanpaulI know, but is LTS so is more stable for me to test configuration15:51
john_cephalopodaI guess.15:51
john_cephalopodaWell, anyway. That means that you are using the open-source nvidia driver ("Nouveau").15:51
vanpaulyes, it shows that on Xorg logs15:51
john_cephalopodaTry installing the package xorg-xf86-video-nouveau.15:51
john_cephalopodaIf it isn't installed yet.15:52
vanpaulis installed15:52
vanpaulwhen I found this computer was with Microsoft, and it had a problem, when connected to electricity it become very slow,15:53
vanpaulinstalled crux and even forgot had problems with hardware only to find again when start using Xorg15:54
vanpaulalready gone to two shops to fix, they really don't want XD they say is expenssive and one only disconnected the keyboard and told  " this computers give lot's of problems and expensive to fix..."15:54
john_cephalopodaHmm, you could try using a newer kernel (5.2.1, for example) and see if that fixes your problem. Nouveau is part of the kernel, so fixes for things like freezes are shipped with newer kernels and possibly not backported.15:55
vanpaulOk, will ask more 1 week to stay with this machina15:55
vanpaulwell will start Xorg, owner wish to see the news to try discover why bitcoin is falling15:57
john_cephalopodaIf a newer kernel doesn't fix it or you can't get one for any reason, you could also try #nouveau on freenode.15:57
vanpauljohn_cephalopoda: my fear is that since is second OS to have problems, really thinking have to do with power supply15:57
vanpaulcurious how microsoft manage to slow down, while linux freeze15:58
john_cephalopodaAll the nouveau devs are there, when you post an error description and your xorg log, they might have a solution.15:58
pedjabtc fell from 10k$?15:58
vanpaulXD he says is 10.380 XD15:58
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vanpaulpedja: this machine is mean to have bisq, bitcoin and so on , this machine is for cryptotrading15:59
vanpaulI have been creating some ports in that direction, but is everything in very testing state,16:00
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pedjathe idea behind cryptocoins is nice, but the amount of electricity wasted on them is just appalling, imho16:02
pedjaenergy and compute power16:02
vanpaulpedja: we all can come to a conssensus to not mine ...16:03
vanpaulor only few16:04
pedjawith the money that can be made that way? yeah, right :)16:04
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pedjalet's be real, crypto-traders are not doing it because they believe in decentralized currency or whatever the idea behind btc and others is.16:09
pedjathey are doing for the cash. and that's OK, just BS 'excuses' are getting old16:09
pedjadoing it*16:09
Anselmoand yet somehow bitcoin and all these others make themselves somehow easier than conventional banking for many types of transfers16:10
Anselmo(in my experience)16:10
Anselmoand I sort of wonder how much effort and power is used to run the conventional schemes for this as well,16:12
Anselmothough I guess btc mining is hard to beat on that front16:12
vanpaulAnselmo: yes, you are right this time is hard but not sure if chinese closed operations16:16
vanpaulwell wee go for a coffee, last weekend ours =)16:18
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: pkgconf: update to 1.6.318:04
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: fossil: update to 2.918:22
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frinnstprotip, run chmod +x on the certbot cronjob-script22:37
frinnstim such a retard22:37
weednixfrinnst: not yet automated here :( keep waiting for email and then crossfinger everything goes well :P22:45
weednixI'm trying to get geoip working with awstats, get an error related with GeoLiteCity.dat ... not sure if missing module or ...22:46
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weednixworking, was my error...23:15
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