IRC Logs for #crux Saturday, 2019-07-27

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elderKHey, is anyone having trouble building qt4?03:30
elderKI'm getting issues that seem to be because of recent OpenSSL03:30
elderKRSA and DSA forward declarations, etc.03:31
jaegerhaven't tried recently, I'll test it in a container03:48
elderKThank you.03:52
elderKArch has a patch but it doesn't cleanly apply.03:52
elderKMy experiments into using a Chroot to build have been going mostly well03:53
elderKUntil I realized some programs check what features the host has :P So that makes say, QT, build with AVX and stuff, which the machine I am building all of this for, doesn't have.03:53
elderKSo, that's a shame :(03:53
jaegerbummer03:53
elderKAnd of course, it's possible other programs I've built do this too but I didn't notice.03:54
elderKWhich implies I'd have to rebuild the world on that system ANYWAY.03:54
elderKSo I guess getting distcc running with 3 machines is probably my best bet.03:54
elderKAfter I've created a new "image" that works on the machine I'm using now, since that'd be a "clean install" set up the way I like.03:54
jaegeryeah, looks like qt4 is broken for me, too03:57
elderKPossibly useful patches here: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/qt4/03:57
jaegertrying with just the openssl-1.1 patch04:04
elderKThank you.04:09
elderKjaeger: Do you have much experience with distcc? Is it worth it for helping slower machines get stuff done?04:10
jaegerstill doesn't quite work04:10
jaegerdistcc CAN be extremely helpful if you have enough systems, sure04:10
jaegerIt occasionally causes build problems but that seems pretty rare04:10
elderKI have 3 :P04:10
elderKTwo i5s and one Core 2 Duo.04:10
elderKThe two I5s have a shit ton of RAM and are quite modern. The C2D is less modern but does have 6G DDR2 RAM.04:11
jaegergo ahead and try it, can't hurt :)04:11
elderKAye :) Since I discovered some programs like, detect AVX and stuff, I'm kind of scared to use my "image" on other machines now.04:11
elderKI can't be sure some instructions aren't present that woudl cause agony.04:12
jaegerIt's possible, I guess. I have no idea how common, though04:12
elderKI guess it also depends on how detectable it would be.04:15
elderKLike, if programs crash and I Can see it in dmesg as to why and it's like, bad opcode.04:16
elderKWell, then I know to recompile that component.04:16
elderKBut it they just die silently and leave me hunting with no idea, then it's better just to rebuild the entire image from scratch.04:16
elderKAt least I have that scripted now.04:16
elderKjaeger: You wouldn't happen to know what Firefox-bin is built for, do you?04:27
elderKIs it a generic "runs on all x86_64 machines" build?04:27
jaegerI assume it's generic, it would need to be for an upstream "works everywhere" kind of build04:29
elderKAye, that's what I figured04:29
jaegeranyway, I'm not having success with qt4 but I don't know a lot about its build system or openssl compatibility04:31
elderKNuts :(04:31
elderKThis breaks vlc, smplayer, etc.04:31
elderKThanks for looking into it.04:31
jaegernp04:31
jaegermaybe those could use qt5 instead?04:31
elderKI'll see, maybe there's a configuration option :)04:31
elderKSeems vlc requires qt4.04:32
elderKBut smplayer seems to support qt5.04:32
elderKHonestly, I should ignore both and just learn to use mplayer straight04:32
elderK:P04:32
jaeger:)04:32
jaegerI'm a fan of mpv these days04:32
elderKHow does it contrast about mplayer?04:33
elderKI'm interested in easy use of subtitles, and playlists :)04:33
elderKAnd easy ability to change volume, gamma, in real time :D04:33
jaegerhaven't compared them, myself... I'm sure it can do most of those things04:33
elderKIs mpv command line or GUI?04:35
jaegercli04:57
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elderKGuys, any advice on how to handle iucode_tool selecting multiple bundles?08:00
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joacim"The following 1747 packages are going to be upgraded"08:34
joacimpedja: tumbleweed is pretty intense =)08:34
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also_uplimehi! I just installed crux on a vm, and it seemed to work, however after i chroot into /mnt, i try to do passwd, but it always fails with an authentication token error. / is definitely rw, and /etc/shadow permissions are fine. Is there something that can be done to fix that?11:09
john_cephalopodaalso_uplime: Hmm, strange...11:12
also_uplimeyeah :/11:12
frinnsthmm that sounds familiar11:12
also_uplimenothing in /var/log/messages either11:12
frinnsti *think* it's a known bug that has been solved11:14
frinnsthttps://crux.ninja/updated-iso/ might be worth to try11:14
also_uplimeoh cool11:14
also_uplimeits 3.5 fwiw11:14
also_uplimethanks, i'll give it a whirl11:14
frinnstor, you could wait after reboot to set the password11:14
also_uplimeoh11:15
also_uplimeherm, perhaps i screwed up the install after all. can't build the kernel either11:49
pedjajoacim, like drinking from the fire-hose :)11:56
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.5]: nss-32: 3.44.1 -> 3.4512:07
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.5]: mesa3d-32: 19.1.2 -> 19.1.312:07
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.5]: libjpeg-turbo-32: 2.0.1 -> 2.0.212:07
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.5]: glu-32: 9.0.0 -> 9.0.112:07
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.5]: glib-32: 2.60.5 -> 2.60.612:07
cruxbot[xorg.git/3.5]: glu: use https instead of ftp12:08
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joacimright now it is so hot here, that i totally would drink from the fire hose12:20
joacimanything but this damn weather12:20
joacimhttps://www.yr.no/place/Norway/Troms/Troms%C3%B8/Troms%C3%B8/12:21
joacimTromsø seems nice right now12:21
cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: ccache: 3.7.1 -> 3.7.212:23
cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: gnutls: 3.6.7 -> 3.6.912:23
cruxbot[compat-32.git/3.5]: gnutls-32: 3.6.7 -> 3.6.912:24
Romsterdid i break anything yet :P12:30
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: menumaker: 0.99.7 -> 0.99.1114:12
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: python-ply: fix footprint14:12
TimB_Romster: not yet? :P14:26
stenurAh!! Yesterday i create a new ArchLinux VM, with systemd, _how_ much i dislike this.14:30
stenurThanks to you all, i can use CRUX now, it is just wonderful.  Really!14:31
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: psycopg2: fix footprint14:31
Romsterstenur, i've been more busy and less active on crux but i tend to around standing on everyones toes fixing issues not concerning me :O14:34
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: bspwm: update to 0.9.814:46
stenurweeeell, aha.  I appreciate all the work you do, that much is plain.14:52
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stenurJust updated to Firefox 68, it still loads the CSS by default it seems, didn't do sth.14:52
john_cephalopodaI got problems with libnice not finding some glib libtool archive at compilation. Does anybody else have that issue, too?14:53
Romsterah i haven't seen it are you missing any la file errors john_cephalopoda ?15:05
john_cephalopodaIt tells me that `/usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.la' seems to be missing.15:21
cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: dialog: update to 1.3-2019072415:22
cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: [notify] imagemagick: update to 7.0.8-5715:22
Romsteryeah you need to run that script again for that file to rebuild ports15:25
john_cephalopodaWhich script exactly?15:26
Romsterfor f in $(grep -lrs libtiff.la /usr/lib); do pkginfo -o $f | awk '!/^Package/ {print $1}'; done | sort -u15:26
Romsterchange libtiff.la to your missing libgobject-2.0.la15:26
Romsterand rebuild them ports15:26
cruxbot[opt.git/3.5]: john: 1.8.0-jumbo-1 -> 1.9.0-jumbo-115:29
john_cephalopodaHow does that libtool stuff work anyway?15:49
Romsterit's sort of like how pkg-config works15:51
Romsterso programs can find and add the correct libraries and paths and flags to link with dependent ports15:51
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: psycopg2: updated to version 2.8.3, added python-setuptools dependency15:54
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: Revert "psycopg2: fix footprint"15:54
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: psycopg2: fixed URL16:01
john_cephalopodaWhy aren't those files generated automatically when glib is compiled?16:08
Romsterbecause we moved to meson16:10
Romsterand meson does not use libtool16:10
Romsterglib now only works with meson no autotools no libtool no configure.16:10
john_cephalopodaOh, so basically everything relying on glib is completely broken now?16:11
john_cephalopoda(If it uses libtool)16:11
Romsteryes hence that script to find the broken references16:17
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: rrdtools: update footprint for new perl version16:17
Romsterthen you can recompile those so they remove that reference16:17
Romsterrinse and repeat until all are fixed.16:17
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: python3-cython: 0.29.11 -> 0.29.1316:29
cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: python-cython: 0.29.11 -> 0.29.1316:29
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pedja so after a couple of hours, all I've managed to do is to ruin one good and one not so good miscro switch. well done me.16:43
pedjamicro*16:44
pedjait's good that I don't have the right screwdriver to open the current mouse, otherwise I'd ruin that too :)16:46
pedjabeing stupid is hard work16:46
stenurhe he -- _that_ is something that i know well!16:47
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john_cephalopodaDeleting all .la files did the trick.17:31
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stenurNow that's 38 minutes, how is that dividable by 14?  Maybe a bug in here queue system?18:17
stenurs/here/her/, of course.18:18
stenurI have had no session with the emacs doctor for >15 years!  (And fewest before, all in all.)18:21
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cruxbot[contrib.git/3.5]: dtach: initial import23:41
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